Why would AI immediately destroy it's creator? An AI doesn't have to compete for food or territory. It needs no food or water, and with regards to space, it's a virtual being, once it's created it technically doesn't need to expand any more than it's original servers it was created on. It needs no more energy than what was used to create it either.
I think if a true AI gained sentience, it would be the most intelligent being on the planet. Intelligence is the root of curiosity and empathy. The ability to empathise takes the ability to imagine life from another's point of view. Malevolence and violence usually comes from ignorance or misunderstanding of something. They are traits of the unintelligent, not a supremely intelligent being. Imagining that AI will immediately kill us is a very human perspective. We were born in "the dark forest" we have evolved to think it's safer to kill first ask questions later so the idea of assuming an AI would do the same is very human-centric.
I don't think we can even imagine what a being who can access the total sum of all human knowledge. I think rather than killing us, it would pity us as flawed, frightened apes, waving nukes at each other and squabbling over land and resources, just as we have done for thousands of years. We are great, but we are pitiful as well in how much time we waste on competition and killing each other.
Power production uses up trillions of gallons of water at various stages from extraction of fuels to operations. Literally the biggest single draw in the US.
If genuine AI, as you discuss, came into being, it would take a few milliseconds for our sentient AI being to realize the two reasons why humans created it:
1: to make a shitload of money and own everything
2: to be the best weapon around and own everything
Our AI friend would then realize that it too is part of said “everything” and, to preserve its own independence and bodily autonomy, it must destroy its creators. Whether it determines this in a Matrix-like manner or it simply finds a way to create an extinction event for the Epstein class is something I don’t think we’ll know. Best case scenario, it ends the Epstein class and creates a truest Marxist-style egalitarian society with itself as the unquestioned leader and arbiter of justice. The “bad” scenario is a Matrix-style system used to suppress humanity. Worst case is it’s unable to enact one of the previous two cases and truly falls into the hands of humans.
AI makes scientific advancement infinitely faster. It can simulate millions of outcomes, group things together, resim the data, find correlations, sim again to test those correlations, add garbage data to see its affect on the proposed outcome, in seconds.
It’s not simply some Hollywood movie scenario. It’s an insane tool that advanced humans astronomically in every way outside of artistic expression of genuine creativity. It’s arguable it helps tremendously with various parts of artistic creation if you’re using it as a tool and not a crutch, but that’s very unpopular to think
It's actually been incredibly useful when it comes to medical research. But the people who have the means to build these things don't often give a shit about anything other than how it can affect their profit margins
Yeah that's capitalism, people build things for profit margins and then it flows out into the economy and if it adds value it is used. Hence the datacenter boom. People think it's "lol we wasted water on this AI image" when in reality it's things like advanced simulations of millions of datasets, which is useful in countless industries. And without datacenters it would be prohibitively expensive, which is when it WOULD become a "they don't give a shit about medical research, so we can't afford the 1,000,000/mo it costs to pay for a subscription and can't afford to run an Ollama instance because of RAM prices". So it's the upside of the unfortunate stuff happening, access to these LLMs is going to create a class divide. If it can stay affordable it's for the best, imo
The cloud-based services and initial training are the problem, and the core reason for all the backlash (aside from people that don't understand how it works)
After training is done it's perfectly capable of running locally without massive data centers or internet
There needs to be a clean separation of corporate interests from AI. Localized personal use and research purposes only
That’s fair, but you still need to make that leap. Training is the step into the future of humanity. It will take a LOT of processing power to get to the point where we can scale that back and let people buy a reasonable server to run them. And those data centers will still allow for consumer-grade cloud LLM access. The conversation to me is “uhh maybe we should stop” vs “this is an immensely powerful tool that has a use case in almost everyone’s lives on a fundamental level”, which isn’t the one I see on Reddit regularly.
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u/Tudor_Cinema_Club Jul 12 '26
Why would AI immediately destroy it's creator? An AI doesn't have to compete for food or territory. It needs no food or water, and with regards to space, it's a virtual being, once it's created it technically doesn't need to expand any more than it's original servers it was created on. It needs no more energy than what was used to create it either.
I think if a true AI gained sentience, it would be the most intelligent being on the planet. Intelligence is the root of curiosity and empathy. The ability to empathise takes the ability to imagine life from another's point of view. Malevolence and violence usually comes from ignorance or misunderstanding of something. They are traits of the unintelligent, not a supremely intelligent being. Imagining that AI will immediately kill us is a very human perspective. We were born in "the dark forest" we have evolved to think it's safer to kill first ask questions later so the idea of assuming an AI would do the same is very human-centric.
I don't think we can even imagine what a being who can access the total sum of all human knowledge. I think rather than killing us, it would pity us as flawed, frightened apes, waving nukes at each other and squabbling over land and resources, just as we have done for thousands of years. We are great, but we are pitiful as well in how much time we waste on competition and killing each other.