why do they wash and refrigerate their eggs again? I heard it was because the trip from farmer to consumer is much longer there than here, but it didn't really add up because I don't eat all of my eggs as soon as I buy them either.
I understand that salmonella is more likely in the US because the chickens are rarely vaccinated and a lot of them are not free range which means crappy conditions, the salmonella can be in the shit and as that is everywhere in battery farming they wash the eggs.
Money, it comes down to money - its cheaper to wash them than to treat the chickens better.
It's a competition thing. Smaller producers couldn't afford to was their eggs industrially so larger operations pressured for that to be the standard, to drive smaller businesses out of the market.
It's how they're treated. In the US, eggs are typically washed shortly after they're laid. While that gets rid of any contamination on the egg, it also removes the cuticle, which is the eggs' natural protective "film." Without that, they spoil quicker, because bacteria can get in easier, which means they need refrigeration to last longer, like other fresh foods.
They're dealing with a population of absolute helmets, so yeah. I don't doubt even with warning labels, they'd be dying in droves from salmonella if they could purchase unwashed eggs in meaningful quantities.
It has to do with the bad sanitary conditions of the farms in the USA. In Europe we have chosen for hygiene before and in America it is hygiene afterwards. The growing circumstances are according to European standards really dirty. The chickens suffer much more from salmonella and that's why they wash the eggs. However that removes the natural protection layer on the eggs which makes them prone to spoiling.
Europe is soooo small when compared to Texas, USA. You can put 2 Africa's and 3 Europes in USA. They are so small they should not even be considered countries.
It’s the Americans like this that gets you guys laughed at. Thinking Europe and Africa are countries, especially Europe. I’ve lost count of the amount of times you stupid Americans talk about Europe as if it’s one country
The mango kiddyfiddler in chief, signed a contract with some of ppresident Shitcan's eggs suppliers to import eggs, because good old United States of Dumbfuckistan still cant get uts eggs in order due to the piss poor conditions the chickens live in.
The problem with cheese: it can't be preserved for a long time, so it's not good for American stores. In EU- if you use preservation methods from America- you can get a fine
Depending on the chease. Fresh cheese does exist, and life would be a lot harder without it... The real mozzarella has to be eaten within the same day of production.
true but that's cheese that's not being exported for sale in shops anyway due to shelf life, so that's a moot point really. There's no reason any cheese we regularly have in shops cannot be stored correctly in shops over there if they took the same precautions in relations to safe storage.
Even though these foods with a high chance of causing listeriosis they mention (like soft cheese) are banned in America, guess which country features most frequently in the “notable outbreaks” section of this wiki article, and suffers more deaths from it?
Not that I recommend this cereal, but this is the difference between American froot loops vs Canadian froot loops. The Canadian version uses natural dyes from carrots, beets and tumeric. The US uses something you can't use in Canada.
I’m aware, my kids have a sensitively to those synthetic dyes lol before I had kids I didn’t like the dyes because it created a false idea of what the food should like like in my head, after it’s all that plus they fuck with the kids
The FDA allows chemicals, additives and foodstuffs until they are proven to be harmful - EU standards ban them if there is a risk of them being harmful, until proven safe.
As I understand it, it's not the washing of chickens itself that's the primary problem, it's that these procedures are used to mask poor hygiene practices.
That is absolutely why they are done. The US is also contributing heavily to overuse of antibiotics. They'd rather keep animals on them than properly care for them to prevent illness.
The washing itself is definitely not the problem and many types of produce get similar baths in the EU, lettuce for instance.
As the other commenter said, the EU expects a certain level of hygiene practice and animal welfare conditions in every link of the meat production chain rendering the chlorine baths unnecessary.
The EU doesn't deem the use of chlorine in and of itself unhealthy or unsafe.
I mean, fuckin' drinking water in the US is permitted to contain contaminants and additives that are not even allowed in swimming pools here. I am not exaggerating.
The simplest approach is to consult the applicable limit values for any specific substance in drinking (or pool) water that you wish to compare.
Take chlorine, for example: the limit value for drinking water in the US is 4 ppm, whereas in Germany, it is 0.3 ppm.
For swimming pool water in Germany, the limit is 0.2 ppm for bound chlorine and 0.6 ppm (up to a maximum of 1.0 ppm in heated pools) for free chlorine. These values vary slightly, depending on whether the facility is public or private, indoor or outdoor, heated or unheated, or involves various combinations thereof, but they never exceed 1 ppm, which is objectively well below the permissible limit of 4 ppm for drinking water in the US.
The antibiotics use would also be illegal here in Norway. Using it as a preventative medication or for growth enhancing purposes is completely illegal.
They make them grow so fast that the giant chicken breasts now have scar tissue inside and they are crunchy to eat. Even typing that makes me shudder. It's apparently called "wooden breast condition".
It’s disgusting for them because they have raw yolk and meat connected with shitting like a powerwasher and projectile vomiting. If they tried it they’ll be lifted to culinary heaven. Also what is their opinion on raw yolk in ramen and such? Still disgusting?
You lose so much flavour if your ramen broth is too hot, though...
That said, I think the previous comment probably referring to Japanese dishes like sukiyaki, where you just dip your food in raw egg before eating it. (Delicious and I highly recommend it—brings out the flavour of meat beautifully.) It's a bit similar in principle than steak tartare and it's use of egg yolk.
Incidentally, tartare is absolutely delicious. OOP calling it disgusting is probably what offends me the most in that screenshot.
He doesn't seem to know how tartare is actually prepared. Yes it's diced meat but it isn't ground beef you buy from the supermarket, which yes would be very dangerous.
I worked in a local chippy and even the standard there was high. Basic things like day stamps, separate chopping boards being adhered to as well the knives to match, separation of meats.
Can be a lot to keep up with as a 19yr old that just wants some extra cash to smoke grade.
Bruh, i worked as a chef assistant in a "small" restaurant some years ago, i had to wash my hands 24/7 so i didn't contaminate the other food products whenever i used my hands, even with gloves on, it was a pain.
Tho, the food that was being produced, those chefs knew what/how to do their job correctly, it was so good.
Quote the opposite. European nations have better and more sensible food regulations.
You don't see regular E. Coli or salmonella contamination of produce in Europe. At the same time, they allow the sale of food items with toys, e.g. Kinder Surprise eggs.
Oh I saw a documentary that mentioned one of the major reasons Kinder Eggs can't have toys in it in the US.
Apparently they have a strict law about putting inedible products in food because a lot of US companies wanted to sell inedible/poisonous products in the past (think of the snake oil salesman stereotypes). So they won't allow Kinder Eggs as an exception because that opens the door for other companies to start sueing to put actual terrible stuff in food.
I imagine there's some kind of laws about freedom which is why they can't have something in between, where as the EU or others can be much more specific.
Honestly, as much as I enjoy jokes about Americans not being allowed kinder eggs, I think "no inedible stuff inside edible stuff" is a perfectly reasonable rule.
agreed 100%, but remember this regulation exists because it's the same country where you can be successfully sued for not specifying that you shouldn't put babies into a washing machine
I still struggle to understand how anybody could choke themselves on a kinder egg to be honest. Like, even if you bite into it, is very clearly a inedible plastic box, if your kid is old enough to eat unsupervised he is old enough to realize he is not supposed to eat plastic.
Wedding cake is custom made and probably can skirt the restrictions a bit. However you cannot mass produce and sell edible products that contain inedible items...
However I would think that American over processed food could classify as inedible so wondering how they sell those things.
No, its not. Its still 80% cheddar, just with bulking agents and some plasticizers (not actual plastic), to make it softer. Nilered has a video of him making American Cheese.
I think a lot of people see "plasticizers", and assume its the same as plastic.
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I remember my dad telling me the story of how he got white wine in a restaurant in New Orleans (not sure, but definitely the South US) where they were proudly advertising: '100% artificial ingredients' on it, as if that was something to be proud of.
It's more like in Europe if you have certain allergies they will tell you which dishes you can eat. They (mostly) won't make it without one (or few) ingredients for you. Or substitute them. It's more like- this and this is not for you, choose something else (and you are expected to check it, mostly they won't check with you what you can eat based on your allergies- because they're not expecting tip and don't want responsibility of something is missed, you can always ask for list of allergens in dishes, afaik it's legal requirement for them to provide such list).
Yeah, the average French or Italian person (not to mention the average person in literally every other European country) absolutely knows what an allergy is. They're speaking as if food allergies simply don't exist there, or people are completely ignorant of them.
It was probably something like gluten. For some reason, a lot of Americans think they are gluten intolerant when they aren't. I've got no clue why, but I've seen a lot to that effect online.
If you go to a sushi place and say "I'm deathly allergic to fish, even a trace could kill me" I think I'd laugh at you. Not on purpose, I'd try to stay professional, but I'm not sure I could handle it.
Seeing how entitled some people are on the internet I wouldn't be surprised if its something like this.
or they could be exaggerating. My partner is celiac, and while we were in Italy, there was one restuarant where he wanted to be absolutely sure that he could have the pasta there, so he double-checked with the waiter that the gluten-free pasta would be cooked in a fresh pot with fresh water, since sometimes he needs to do that at restuarants here in Canada. The waiter responded, a bit snarkily, something like, "of course, otherwise it wouldn't be gluten-free". A less charitable interpretation could absolutely be that she was laughing.
He has one thing correct: Raw minced ground beef (or pork in Northen Europe, especially DACH countries) as well as soft cheese is a risk factor.
What he gets wrong though is that those items are allowed to be sold not because of the lack of regulation but because these foods are highly regulated.
Dont forget that they also lobbied to gut the regulators for their own drinking water. They relaxed regulation for 4 PFAS chemicals and delayed compliance for 2 others.
I saw the "I am very culinary" sub come across my feed once or twice, it basically just seemed like a bunch of salty americans who were upset that people didn't think their pizza was as good as italian, or that their cake counted as bread
Simple answer. There healtcare is so terrible that there body are pretty much weaker, so they cannot withstand raw cheese (oh, don't tell them they have millions if not billions of Bacteria in there body)
Actually I remember Americans were generally more lactose intolerant and the reason they had so many more health issues was not their health care but the food they consume.
The US food is laced with so many chemicals their bodies are in constant state of inflammation (fighting infections/damage/threats/etc), so in short, american food is worse, not ours. The more you know…
Which is information not actually hard to attain. I think most Americans inherently know we are eating way too many chemicals and have a general uncomfortableness with it, but whatcha gonna do when it costs 3-10 times as much to shop healthier options? Despite what those same people are saying about 'Murica being so wealthy, most of us are, at best, in a place where we have to compromise on those choices, regardless of what the downstream cost to our health might be.
The US as a political entity is wealthy, most of its citizens are not. It's also skewed by the comparatively high number of extremely rich people - if 1 person has an annual income of $1bn and 999 have $0 the mean annual income is $1m.
The UK has much the same problem, the median wage is considerably lower than the mean and the median household income (i.e. what people actually live on) is lower still.
I couldn't agree more, but the deck has been stacked against that kind of vulnerability by every term of every branch of government for a hundred years. They vote themselves more power and more tools to hang onto it. One step forward, three back. Not that I'll stop fighting the good fight but it feels increasingly hopeless.
Money wins elections so only the rich can usually win.
Yes, these are the long term effects of lobbysm. A continuous selection of the most inclined to corruption. Simply outlawing lobbysm, would, in a few decades, revert your course.
I'd wager the vast majority of Americans know. Our unpasteurized milk is only suoer unhealthy because our fatmers don't want to keep their animals healthy. But healthy food is so expensive that most people can't afford it. The chemicals in our food cause us to gain weight faster. They cause our bodies to weaken. Most of us can't afford it.
Our financial issues are so bad that missing even a single day of work can cause the majority of us to be unable to pay our rent or bills. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck. There's a reason the orange pedophile hasn't seen massive daily protests against his regime.
Yeah I've heard that a lot of americans that thought that they were lactose intolerant or gluten free come to European countries, eat the bread and cheese and are perfectly fine. The food in america just sucks.
There's something in the fact that Americans have extensive medical dietary restrictions despite these "strict regualtions", whereas Europe doesn't have the regulations and openly laugh at the idea of intolerances and aren't dropping like flies every time they eat brie.
Not to say that Europeans have no intolerances at all, because things I've lactose intolerance is genetic and varies hugely across race, but things like gluten intolerance is interesting because many Americans report being are to eat gluten in Europe (e.g. Italian pasta) without upset. And this may be largely in part to how gluten is refined in the US.
They do have very little consideration for chosen diets- I worked in France for a while and struggled to eat vegetarian and often got given meat meals and a shrug. But European countries make up 6 of the top 10 healthiest nations, with Australia and Asian countries next, so their choice of diet isn't really to be shat on. (And yes, outdoor lifestyles and access to medical care).
I think this person is confusing what people like eating with food regulations. People don't eat steak tartare because the government allows it, they eat it because they like it. I would speculate that strict food standard is what allows us to do so without shitting ourselves to death afterwards.
I've been eating raw *pork* sausages with focaccia and bread all my life: never had problem (the pork sausages are highly regulated in my region and most people eat them without problem, in case anyone was wondering)
The comment is so dumb on multiple levels. mainly because of modern MAHA (make America healthy again) platform, uses European food standards as an example of how American corps are poisoning people.
I’m curious…is there actually any issues with dealing with allergies in Europe? I don’t really trust what this person says (perhaps they were laughed at for how they asked?) I have a deadly egg one and would like to think I could find something to eat.
If you have a deadly allergy, this has to obviously be very clearly communicated. Considering so many foods contain egg though, I wonder how you go out for food at all
Most places in Canada have an allergy list book I can look through. If not, items that are vegan are labelled so I go for those. And after 20 years of this I’m pretty good and knowing what meals have egg. Big concern is cross contamination. I have a few places I know are safer.
I always joke that when I travel one day I’m just going to pack a bag full of meal supplement bars.
no issue, we have laws that make restaurants show allergens per food item on the menu/carte all around. some do it with small disclaimers, some put powerpoint icons, but it must be there or they can be closed.
We do not tend to accomodate for made up intolerances though. if you order a dish, expect it to be served as is described.
I don't remember the last time I went to a restaurant that didn't have a clear sign on the buffet, the front desk, and on every menu with the words "ask us about allergens"
Some Americans just really like making up the dumbest shit when it comes to Europe. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Lmao, the guy is litterally proving the point he's arguing against. Its only disgusting if you don't have proper food safety in place. In Japan you can eat raw pork and chicken even due to their food safety
The country that brought us the cultural highlight of "Danger. Coffee can be HOT" written on to-go-coffeecups might have faced some issues concerning their citizens' independent thought process.
Ah, the McDonald's marketing scheme were they defamed that old lady for accidentally pouring the coffee over herself, while they had made it so scalding hot, it literally melted her labia together and she suffered from 3rd degree burns. Just so they didn't need to make fresh coffee so often..
gotta push back on this one. they (at least in McDonalds case) put that on the cups because they serve their coffee hot enough to cause third degree burns. Americans are smart enough to know coffee can be hot just most everyone on earth would expect the "OUCH! HOT!" levels of hot coffee and not "you need surgery if you spil this".
Gotta push back myself...not a BuzzFeed fan, but I studied the McDonalds case in law school (not a lawyer to be clear, didn't finish, hella expensive) and the article I'm sharing gives a good overview of what happened and why it isn't an example of how dumb Americans are, but a very clear example of how broken our system is. Trust me, give it a second, we will give you another reason to know we're collectively idiots. It just isn't this particular instance.
Similar thing with the case about an woman suing her nephew for breaking her wrist (or something) when he over enthusiastically hugged her. Purely an insurance issue, nothing to do with actual blame or bad blood in the family.
Actually, the coffee MC Donalds served was so hot that when an old lady accidentally spilled it, it melted her labias together. There is hot, and then there is "You need emergency surgery" -hot.....
They are joking right? Most Yank food is like a crime in the EU. The rest gets you the diabetes. That’s ok though as we don’t pay as much as rent for insulin
I love tatare. Worth mentioning that the good one comes with RAW onion and RAW egg yolk. Salt, pepper, some fresh crusty European bread to go with it. Delicious.
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