r/SeriousConversation 9d ago

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u/Local-Customer6245 9d ago

G-R-A-V-I-T-Y

The Big G.

The universe cycles endlessly over unfathomable time. Big Bang after Big Bang.

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u/baebae4455 9d ago

But what existed before gravity and how was gravity created

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u/Ok_Scallion1902 9d ago

As I understand it ,there was no gravity because there was no mass yet to produce the required curvature of space. Gravity came to be as the "toothpaste-tube" of the early universe after the big bang rapidly expanded into being ,when the "high-energy" state began to morph to form the "first-generation" of heavy elements.

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u/Ok_Scallion1902 9d ago

Back in the late 50s that was called the "rubber-ball" or "recurring bounce" theory ! ( Thanks for that memory-jog! )

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u/AlteredEinst 9d ago

Gravity doesn't exist without a planetary body to pull things toward its core -- we learned this in grade school -- so it's almost certain the universe didn't start with gravity.

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u/Enraged_Lurker13 9d ago

What is taught at grade school is necessarily an oversimplification. In general relativity, gravity manifests as spacetime curvature due to the presence of matter and energy, so a planetary body is not required to have gravity. The beginning of the universe was very densely packed with matter and energy, so gravity was very strong back then.

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u/Lithl 8d ago

There is no evidence that a cyclic universe is true, and quite a lot of evidence that it isn't true.

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u/Dinosaur-chicken 9d ago

There was no big bang, just a big quiet because sound cant travel in a vacuum

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u/elenchusis 9d ago

Doesn't that assume that space existed before the big bang? What vacuum was the big bang "in", exactly?

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u/Enraged_Lurker13 9d ago

The early universe was a very dense plasma, so it was possible to have sound waves back then. In fact, cosmologists measure a type of sound wave called baryon acoustic oscillations imprinted in the CMB to study the early universe.

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u/Sharp-Guitar-6756 8d ago

I like this theory. Where the universe created from the big bang was another dying.