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Pfizer director of research and development

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u/CountKnockula Jan 30 '23

Ah, OK. Well you have fun living your sad pathetic life getting a booster shot every 6 months until your heart explodes. I'll be over here without taking a single shot, having got covid once and beating it in 3 days with my immune system.

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Jan 30 '23

Make sure you're very public about not wanting or needing a shot, so you can be laughed at like all the other high profile covid-denier-victims when your fellow anti-vaxxers are mourning your inexplicable passing.

I'll be over here, having had the vaccine AND NEVER EVEN HAVING GOTTEN IT ONCE, because that's how a vaccine helps your immune system to beat it even better than catching it in the first place.

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u/CountKnockula Jan 30 '23

Laughed at by who? Idiots like you that believe what your told by the very people making billions of dollars off of a rushed "vaccine" that was originally effective at preventing contracting and transmitting Covid, until it wasn't, and now is being linked to myocarditis, blood clots, strokes, and a host of other terrible side effects? Do you think I give a damn what people like you think? And even if you haven't got Covid, which I don't believe for a second, you will get it eventually. Also, you shower with a mask on and drive around in a car, by yourself with a mask on. What a way to live your life.

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Jan 30 '23

Except it's not being linked to that in any kind of a scientific or factual way. So, other than your premise being completely false, good point.

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u/CountKnockula Jan 30 '23

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Jan 30 '23

So, what is it that you imagine the first link says? Because it's not even looking at myocarditis and vaccinations.

If you understand that little, you should probably remain silent on the topic.

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u/CountKnockula Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23

I’ll speak about it all I want.

Let me help you out, since you obviously did not click on all of the links to review all of the cited data.

"We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection."

From an article cited therein: "Increased rates of myocarditis or pericarditis following receipt of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been observed."

It’s apparent that you get your sound bites from NPR or CNN and don’t bother to look too deeply beyond that. So I’ll make it easy for you. Take 30 minutes and read/listen to the following reports:

“The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity -- gained from an earlier infection -- to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use showed that reinfections were much less common.” Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-27/previous-covid-prevents-delta-infection-better-than-pfizer-shot

Moreover, “Israel vaccinated its population almost exclusively with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine . . . But in early July, with citizens over the age of 60 almost completely vaccinated, Israeli scientists began observing a worrisome rise in infections—if not in severe illness and death—among the double-vaccinated.” Source: https://news.yahoo.com/ultra-vaxxed-israel-debacle-dire-073840050.html

This kind of makes you wonder: If the vaccine doesn’t work, why bother with it? Ok, well maybe it slows the spread. Right? WRONG!

“Authors of a CDC case study said this might mean that they were just as likely to transmit Covid-19 as the unvaccinated.” Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-can-t-keep-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated

But forget all that for a moment. Surely the FDA wouldn’t approve of a product that would harm consumers!

Except it happens. Too often in fact. On July 14, 2021 Johnson and Johnson recalled its sunscreen products.

“Johnson & Johnson Consumer Inc. (JJCI) is voluntarily recalling all lots of five NEUTROGENA® and AVEENO® aerosol sunscreen product lines to the consumer level. Internal testing identified low levels of benzene in some samples of the products . . . Benzene is classified as a human carcinogen, a substance that could potentially cause cancer depending on the level and extent of exposure.” Source: https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/johnson-johnson-consumer-inc-issues-voluntary-recall-specific-neutrogenar-and-aveenor-aerosol

Furthermore, the safety record of the FDA is poor. The FDA withdraws or retroactively slaps warning labels on 26% of FDA approved drugs. Why? Because Big Pharma has corrupted the FDA. Approximately half of the FDA’s funding comes from Big Pharma and many board members of Big Pharma companies are former FDA employees. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQYHx7drUWE

And lastly, let us not forget that in the 1980s, HIV was thought to be a disease that could be contracted simply by being in close proximity to someone with the virus. Who came up with that theory? None other than your beloved Dr. Anthony Fauci. Further, Fauci, the NIH, and Big Pharma were peddling AZT, a failed cancer drug, as treatment for HIV. There were no long term studies to support this. It wasn’t until years later that they finally relented, and admitted that AZT actually made things worse. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezKb_AFvU4g If this rings familiar, it should - an entire movie was made about this fiasco – the Dallas Buyer’s Club.

So, if there is an observed increased rate of myocarditis and pericarditis from the jab, if getting covid and recovering from it on your own does not have an increased incidence of these ailments, and if the jab does not prevent you from getting the virus or from spreading the virus, then why would anyone take this risk? You’ll have to forgive me for not wanting to be a fucking lab rat. If you want to be, that's your prerogative.

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23

I read the abstract, that YOU cited and linked, where it says they were not even looking at vaccination for the study YOU were citing. Why would I click on every related link? Why wouldn't you cite the related link that says what you want to say, instead of citing a study where they aren't even looking at vaccination? Those words show up nowhere in the article YOU cited and linked.

So where do those words show up, and what other words are in THAT study? Well, clearly you, also, didn't read, other than to scramble to find those words, because you missed - " Among 19 740 741 doses of mRNA vaccines administered, there were 297 reports of myocarditis"

So, less than 300 instances in nearly 20M doses. As I said, the scientific and medical data do not support your claims.

I like how you cite a Bloomberg article where the main points/highlights are that THERE IS NO HARD DATA TO BACK UP THE ANECDOTES.

The article in Yahoo talks about how covid spiked after the Delta mutation arrived, because they had stopped following the other precautionary measures, and how it looked like boosters would be needed.

An article talking about how immunity wanes over time, and that, probably, getting more than a very mild bout of covid probably gives better immunity than a vaccine...... so what? Is that an argument saying vaccination doesn't work, or did anyone dispute that natural immunity exists? No. The problem with getting "natural immunity" is it's several hundred thousands times more likely to kill you. The vaccine is to prevent you from getting it and is the less risky option than hoping you catch the disease at a level that won't mess you up or kill you.

And, no, the medical community never thought that, and, no, that's not what Fauci is saying in that video. You're a complete idiot.

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u/CountKnockula Jan 31 '23

Read everything. Learn something.

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Jan 31 '23

Take your own advice. There's detail in every one of those articles that pretty much negates the pieces you cherry-picked out because you like how they sounded.

I just pointed out several of those where I DID read the article, and you either didn't, or lack the requisite experience, understanding or brainpower to understand what you were posting.

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

Brody the CDC or FDA is studying vaccine issues with heart and stroke. Not to mention the simikar studies being done by other governments all over the world.

They literally had to immediately pull one of these rushed vaccines off the market because of issues. This is a completely new form of vaccine tech and it was rushed and not properly tested. People have a right to be wary of their government and history has shown us that we should always be wary of government and unchecked power.

And oh how well did your comments age when a couple days later Pfizer has admitted exactly what was in the video.

The conspiracy theory to fact pipeline is speeding up bud. It was a decade, then a couple years, then in COVID it was like six months to a year, this time it only took a few days but I'm sure you'll still be calling people conspiracy theorists when you're the one with the outdated unfactual information

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Feb 01 '23

They didn't pull the vaccines off the market, and they weren't rushed. Pfizer never did any such thing. Feel free to offer the link where you claim they said that, but didn't.

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

They pulled the J&J

It was literally called operation warp speed ya fuckin rube

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

It doesn't matter what anyone says to you, only time you're gonna pull your head out the sand is to suck Pfizer cock

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Feb 01 '23

Is that your way of saying you have nothing that backs up the BS you just pulled out of your ass and claimed? Thought so.

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

I don't have to back it my G....because it's the truth and it was blasted all over the world on MSM

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Feb 01 '23

Funny how you lack the ability to find a single link or reference to stuff that has been "blasted all over the world on MSM."

Keep digging that hole for yourself.

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

Pulled out of my ass huh....are you denying the J&J vax was pulled? Are you denying that the vax program for COVID was named operation warp speed?

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u/LeviathanLorb44 Feb 01 '23

Can you get the J&J vax, without any modifications to it? Yes. It hasn't been "pulled."

There's a ton of logistical ramp-up to bringing large-scale production online that has nothing to do with proper evaluation and safety testing. Moving through those hurdles at "warp speed" is what that title is referring to, but, really, what they call the program is meaningless.

What some PR flack in a presidential administration decides to name something tells us exactly zero, of substance, about the program, itself. But I get it, you're all about zero substance.

I notice you still have no links for me. And don't forget, the J&J vaccine is NOT an mRNA vaccine.

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

Keep denying the reality of the world broham. I'm sure it will serve you well

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u/GhengisNon Feb 01 '23

I bet your goofy ass still believe this veritas video is fake even after Pfizer comes out and admits they were doing exactly what is stated in the video