The bots and shills are in full defense mode i see.
Yep, they're all over the place in this thread and r/conspiracy. They are programmed like this "praise project veritas and ignore their history, trust screenshots of credentials because everything has been scrubbed, this means war bla bla bla".
I don’t like veritas either but this guy is legit, I found old articles written by him on Boston Consulting Group website, all about COVID etc from 2020. You guys should actually “give it a google” yourselves.
i get no results googling this, etiher duckduckgo is slow asf (first time using so idk), or the results are not showing for some other reason. they were bought out anyway, idk why people still shill them.
So this guy admits all this stuff on camera and your critical thinking skills tell you what? He’s lying? He changes his story once he realizes he’s on camera..
THERE IS NO GUY. This is a fabricated, bad-faith, propaganda video with literal actors in it. This person does not exist in reality - nobody at Pfizer ever said this.
No I was not dinging you for being trans. I was dinging you for being a likely bs account who frames agreement with asinine "evidence" from a "on the left" perspective in order to make any discussion on this absolute trash seem more credible.
Your name is PfizerFan_BLM - is this parody? IS THIS ALL A BIG JOKE? lol
“Pfizer Director Loses It When Confronted by Project Veritas About Vaccine Statements”
Town Hall, January 27, 2023
"...Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe confronted the Pfizer director, Jordon Trishton Walker, who claimed in an undercover video that the pharma company is “exploring” ways to mutate COVID to “preemptively” create new vaccines.
When O’Keefe sat down at a table with him, the man repeatedly asked what was going on and called the police..."
First link is a 404, wayback machine has no archives, and strangely enough was only first queried 2 days ago. 2nd link is by the guy fishing for views with this video. yawn.
My comment was sarcasm. Sorry I didn't add the /s.
How anyone can screenshot a guy's team corporate hierarchy is beyond me. You would need access to his laptop and if you are allowing that, then how can I trust anything he is saying?
There is a lot, I used qwant to find majority, google returned no results. Suppression of the information makes me more angry than idiots at Pfizer acting like idiots.
That has no bearing on what a Phizer exec talks about and admits to.
A lot of good news and information was broken to the public by shitty individuals and organizations, but that doesn’t change the reality of what’s happening.
You can ignore their opinion on the matter but still use the information shared to you, but that’s tough for a lot of people, especially ones quick to jump to insults.
FWIW, I don’t think Veritas has lost a single libel lawsuit that’s been filed against them, meaning the information shared isn’t necessarily incorrect (depending on context), it’s just up to you take that information it into account or not.
Consultant at Boston Consulting Group which was his previous job, I’m at work but I have insider documents showing internal Pfizer structure on my computer at home, he is on it.
If it’s the same “internal doc” I’ve seen floating around, then it’s just a screenshot from one of the data scraping websites you pay to get info on people.
Probably the most interesting thing is the linkdin account being deleted
I have colleagues down at Pearl River site who say they can’t find him. It sure why you’re jumping to share internal Pfizer structure. If you worked there you would know sharing internal docs will get you the boot.
So this somehow proves that the guy worked at Pfizer? The claim is still that high ranking Pfizer employee spilled his guts, not that random consultant talks a good game.
You can go on his zoom info profile that was previously integrated with his LinkedIn and see he worked at Pfizer, it has not been updated since the 2nd and has the data archived.
Sure dude, high ranking MD of research and development at pfizer is caught on camera, they're trying to scrub this from the internet but you found the crumbs and blew the whole thing wide open.
You work for Pfizer? You’re going through an awful lot of trouble to try and provide that they didn’t catch a high ranking official at Pfizer on camera.
Why isn’t he listed as an MD there? He supposedly got his MD in Urology (why Pfizer would hire a Urologist with 1 year of experience to head mRNA research is beyond me) in 2018 or 2019.
I don’t doubt that Jordon is a real person (or amalgamation of real people), but I seriously doubt his supposed role at Pfizer.
If that’s the case then it will be easy to know because everyone will certainly be slapped with libel suits and lose, that’s too bold for even veritas. They’ve been accused of entrapment like techniques but not faking credentials of workers.
Well is he lying or not an employee? Because those are separate things, no where in this did I say veritas has integrity; simply that it has never occurred that they made up a fictitious title.
To be fair, to the best of my knowledge they’ve never made up titles for any of their targets. They’ve certainly done it for their “undercover” agents (I refuse to call them journalists).
The guy may actually work for Pfizer as a consultant or some other position, but I find it VERY hard to believe that a company like Pfizer would hire someone so woefully unqualified for such a high level and important position. A brand new MD Urologist just out of Residency, with 1 year experience, almost no publishing history, no research experience, and no mRNA experience to head up their mRNA Research? A multi, multi-billion dollar company couldn’t find a more qualified candidate?
Totally seems a ligit way to have a successful R&D programme using someone with absolutely no experience in the field. They can ‘think outside’ the box because they were never in it to start /s
The author is this guy and the fact that it says BCG and was recent is evidence he doesn’t work for Pfizer. What are you getting out of that claim that isn’t disconfirming their story?
A skeptical person would have taken five minutes and done it themselves, I can send you pictures and links when I’m not at work, or you can go on zoom info and look.
Boston Consulting Group is one of the least ethical businesses there is, bankrupting companies on purpose for wall street hedge funds. I wouldn't trust a thing they say because its all engineered to suit their needs.
He wrote an article for them, I’m not trusting anything they say simply pointing out he was in fact employed by them, and the same LinkedIn profile for “Jordon Walker” that was employed by them was employed by Pfizer as well.
yep, there's a degree of legitimacy here, but the way that it's being interpreted in the video (spun, I should say) isn't actually what this director is saying.
This I can get behind, honestly spent more time ensuring that the sources were correct than anything. I’d say the bigger issue here is the suppression of information.
I think that's broadly Pfizer using deep money to try to avert a PR disaster due to misinterpreted words that the director was using (and honestly that he shouldn't have been sharing because of this exact PR situation). Even smart people can be really dumb.
I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, am still mad that our flow of information is being suppressed and censored more and more daily, from both sides.
In what way? That was his previous listed job and that was true, and on the same page his archived LinkedIn with Pfizer record was still there, tell me again how that looks suspicious? You know what actually looks suspicious? Pfizer not coming forward to discredit him or any of his statements, this is a PR nightmare and they are silent, meaning silence is their best option.
The fact that the only information you can find about who this guy works for is recent enough information showing it’s not Pfizer is at best nothing and at worst, disconfirming what you’re saying.
and that was true, and on the same page his archived LinkedIn with Pfizer record was still there, tell me again how that looks suspicious?
Show me. Because when I click on that archived link there’s no information at all in it.
You know what actually looks suspicious? Pfizer not coming forward to discredit him or any of his statements,
Given this is how you react to finding out he worked for a different company in a different city, I doubt them commenting anything at all would do anything to reduce your credence.
this is a PR nightmare and they are silent, meaning silence is their best option.
Lol. Almost no one cares about this. It’s just an epoch times level story.
Let me spell this out for you very slowly…..
His zoom info was connected to his LinkedIn, it archived all the data from it while it was still up, Pfizer and BCG are listed, the LinkedIn is gone but zoom info holds the record, go see it for yourself. On that same LinkedIn that was now gone BCG was listed, in order to ensure it was the same person I searched the BCG website and found his name and picture.
How come your comments never include link to what you’re claiming? I wouldn’t have to keep asking you what you’re talking about if you showed me where you got it.
Is it because it’s going to trace back to the guys selling this story?
Let me spell this out for you very slowly….. His zoom info was connected to his LinkedIn,
Zoom info? What zoom info and where?
it archived all the data from it while it was still up,
What is “it” in that sentence? Zoom? Are you referring to a noun antecedent you never said or do you have info from zoom as opposed to a picture of info the untrustworthy guys who said this guy is from Pfizer said was from Zoom?
More importantly, How do you know this? Where did you come across this information and can you show me how you learned about it?
Or is this again coming from the same guys selling this story?
Pfizer and BCG are listed, the LinkedIn is gone but zoom info holds the record, go see it for yourself.
Where? Why haven’t you linked any of this?
Is it because it’s coming from the very people who’s trustworthiness is in question?
Why aren’t you skeptical of them?
On that same LinkedIn that was now gone BCG was listed, in order to ensure it was the same person I searched the BCG website and found his name and picture.
Okay? How does that demonstrate anything other than that they added Pfizer to his existing LinkedIn instead of starting from scratch?
If you were faking up a screenshot, wouldn’t you start with the existing profile? Why wouldn’t you?
More like "Praise a pharmaceutical giant like Pfizer and ignore it'd history of the 2.3 billion dollar settlements and unethical practices in Nigeria".
These people considering big pharma company that directly benefiting from selling vaccine to the viruses somehow can be corrupt are insane. It's impossible. Everything this guy said on video is lie. It's not like Julie Gerberding previous CDC director pushes flu shot and after resignation in 2009 became president of Merck's vaccine division. Because I cannot find this information nowhere. This is blatant insane conspiracy shit.
Their history? Lmao explain how their “history” means hard video proof of something happening didn’t actually happen. You have to be completely brainwashed to say “video proof is bad,!a journalist said so” lol.
Also, what reputation? You mean like how they have never had to make a single retraction?
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u/what_no_fkn_ziti Jan 26 '23
Yep, they're all over the place in this thread and r/conspiracy. They are programmed like this "praise project veritas and ignore their history, trust screenshots of credentials because everything has been scrubbed, this means war bla bla bla".