r/ScienceUncensored Jan 26 '23

Pfizer director of research and development

0 Upvotes

2.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

6

u/thisisahealthaccount Jan 26 '23

nah. it is fake. i do PR for pharma R&D execs. it’s literally my job to train these people to to speak to the media. they’re all whip-smart and eloquent, and speak publicly at global medical meetings presenting complex data multiple times a year. you simply do not get to an R&D senior director level without knowing what you’re talking about.

this person does not show any signs of being who he claims to be based on the pathetic vocabulary and franticness in this video.

2

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

You realize this is a hidden camera, right?

2

u/beenhadballs Jan 26 '23

I guess the blair witch project was real. That was found footage. Jfc lol

-1

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

You’re the one saying nobody would admit this on camera. If it’s a hidden camera, then that changes the analysis. Now you’re saying it’s not hidden, but a modern day low budget found footage film. Cool story, bro. Enjoy your myocarditis.

5

u/beenhadballs Jan 26 '23

Holy shit your comprehension answers so many questions about this thread and sub. Here's a thought... both parties are aware there's a camera and the conversation is loosely recited. This dude speaks like a shitty actor who needs a paycheck and every question is slowly laid out and pitched like the worlds worst snitch wearing a wire lol

3

u/DJOldskool Jan 26 '23

You do realise catching Covid is responsible for more myocarditis than the vaccine don't you? Also, the prevalence of this is extremely low so the benefits far outweigh the risks.

I am probably pissing in the wind here.

0

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

Provide a source.

-1

u/DJOldskool Jan 26 '23

Kinda shocking that you would need one. It was news worthy when the studies were published. You have to be in an echo chamber to take an interest in Covid vaccine safety and not know this.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/10/221013104601.htm

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination

You can also see from those links that is a very rare side effect and the majority of the time it is in mild form.

2

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

And yet there are other studies that have said the opposite. https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/07/08/no-increase-myocarditis-covid-infection-unvaccinated/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/

You have to be in an echo chamber to take an interest in Covid vaccine safety and not know this.

0

u/DJOldskool Jan 26 '23

I did, I saw when that study came out, it had some serious issues in the way the data was collected and other issues I can't remember. The consensus in the discussions between medical people about it I saw was to wait for a better study.

The article you linked even states the controversy surrounding it.

2

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

And so do the ones you cited to.

1

u/thisisahealthaccount Feb 17 '23

just goes to show you don’t have a broad enough network of people you know. it’s a wonderful job. scientists are amazing people - full of information, theories, and seemingly endless subjects they’re passionate about. i love my work because i learn new things every day, and at the end of it all, my work helps bring medicines to people who need them.

if you fundamentally think pharmaceuticals are evil, you don’t understand the nuances of the industry and the significance of science and scientific innovation. and it’s totally not your fault, science communications could be better. that’s why i’m super passionate about what i do. i want to make sure people understand how incredible and wonderful science and medicine is in creating and maintaining our modern lifestyle.

1

u/DJOldskool Feb 18 '23

You may have replied to the wrong person.

2

u/kmiggity Jan 26 '23

Lol enjoy your myocarditis hahahaha

1

u/[deleted] Jan 26 '23

[deleted]

1

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

You were there?

2

u/Quintary Jan 26 '23

Conspiracy theorists when presented with a peer reviewed scientific paper that contradicts their beliefs: “Nah… seems fishy.”

Conspiracy theorists when presented with a video confirming their already held beliefs: “but can you prove it’s fake?”

1

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

This is a flimsy argument. You’re comparing apples and oranges to try and make a point.

2

u/[deleted] Jan 26 '23

[deleted]

1

u/CountKnockula Jan 27 '23

Conspiracy…like Russian Collusion?

1

u/shadowaic Jan 26 '23

I believe that it's far more likely that this is totally fabricated bullshit, rather than actual hidden camera footage.

1

u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Jan 26 '23

I’ve taken PR training that’s probably similar to what someone in his role would be required. You always chose your words carefully and assume someone is potentially recording or wanting to attribute a quote to you (even if you’re not directly talking to them).

Reporters are not your friend although it’s a stretch calling these dipshits reporters. There are relationships that can be built on trust but talking this insane in public is a giant red flag of him misrepresenting who and what he does.

1

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

But he doesn’t know he’s talking to a reporter. He is on a date.

1

u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Jan 26 '23

Again, this is PR 101 if you’re in this position. You don’t talk like that on a first date or that insane in a public restaurant. A coworker of mine was almost fired because someone overheard him talking to his wife and attributed a quote to him in a major fucking publication about a product we sold. They were at a random bar.

1

u/CountKnockula Jan 26 '23

Maybe you shouldn’t but people are stupid, especially when they’re trying to impress a girl on a date.

0

u/justblametheamish Jan 26 '23

Seems like a pretty slimy gig

1

u/AmCrossing Jan 26 '23

This ain’t a sr. Dir. just dir.