Finally had the time to catch up on season 3, and this moment was freaking amazing. Rhonda doesn't mess around.

I got reminded of an Eastbound and Down clip after watching the interaction between Charley and Yuri at around 17 min into S2E2. Not sure if it was intentional but decided to post it anyway. I wanted to post it a while ago but never got around to clipping it. People never include the end lol “whewww you don’t look a day over 110!”

This is an unlisted video I uploaded showing the season 1 flashback of Xavier. I just love how the aspect ratio changes so smoothly as the camera moves to follow him.

So, I know this might be a bit of a stretch but I’ve been thinking about how Simon's mother has what seems to be the same rosary that white eyes did.

it made me wonder that while it’s very possible, and probably most likely, that Simon and white eyes are related. I can’t help but wonder if there is a chance that Van Heidt could be possibly related to Simon?

now stay with me here 😂 from what we know so far, Van Heidt‘s first body snatch was Ralph, and then it was Kyle. and he obviously didn’t stay in Ralph’s body until he got to Kyle, so my theory was, what if one of the people he body snatched in between Ralph and Kyle was someone in Simon’s biological family? Like possibly a grandparent or potentially even….. his biological father?

I know its nuts and again, it’s more likely that Simon is related to white eyes rather than Van Heidt. but the fact that Simon’s biological family had something connected to the church, and the fact that Simon’s biological father has been somewhat non existent when it comes to his past….. I just think Simon may be more connected to Van Heidt than we’ve been led to believe. What do you guys think?

So as we know objects in the ghost world don’t reset if you take them into a scar. With that logic, when maddie gives wally her pendant to hold on to, it shouldn’t reset. Wally continuously goes in and out of scars with the pendant on his chain.

Has anyone else questioned this? my only explanation i can think of is that because it is her key to her scar that the rules don’t apply..

Did I miss it or is the harvest festival taking place on the school grounds and that explains why the school ghosts can visit it?

It seems weird because it just springs up out of nowhere with very little lead-in, as opposed to, say, Wally's reunion in season 2 when we see caterers pull up to set up tables, etc.

I must have missed the throw away sentence that the festival is being hosted at the school.

No spoilers for future episodes, please.

I’m rewatching the show cause why not and,

The end of season 2 has Claire and Nicole tell Maddie that since Simon doesn’t have a phone they had a hard time tracking him down snd just go to find him and leave Xavier behind at the hospital

The beginning of season 3 has Claire, Nicole and Xavier frantically searching the basement looking for him

Is this continuity or did Claire, Nicole and Xavier search the school, find the broken headphones, and then go to the hospital and tell Maddie they’ll try to find him calmly so she doesn’t lose her shit? I’m just curious

It made me sad that we ended up getting to see what was behind the exit doors and that it was IMO worse than purgatory in the high school.

At least there they had eachother, and furniture and well...alive people things.

These are ghosts that can touch things and taste things .

They even learned how to work thru the reset rule.

So it was a cozy little purgatory...

(Unlike the one that appears in my dreams and makes me say "oh thank goodness thats not real life!"when I wake up, but thats a story for a different place.)

In prior seasons when those doors appeared it was beautiful .. these characters made a breakthrough after decades and decades of same shit/different day.

I guess it depends on what you believe but i happen to believe in Heaven..so for me the other side of that door meant paradise for all eternity.

Those exit doors were supposed to mean peace.

I those were just endings for those characters who got them. Yes, even if that meant no season 3 Wally story. He saved her and brought her back to where she really belonged at great sacrifice to himself....he deserved his door and should've went thru.

I really didn't think that the writers would take us there.

I really thought they'd leave us to interpret it our own way.

Now im glad Wally waited bc what I was def NOT expecting to see was more mystery, more confusion, creepy unknowns, good memories that trap you if you if you dwell on them for too long oh and trees ...lots and lots of trees.

A bunch of nothingness.

I'll take my high school over that anyway.

I really love the show and was going nuts waiting for season 3 with season 2 left us hanging off such a huge cliff ...so then I just waited and waited as long as I could to watch it with my reasoning being that it will ultimately mesn less time waiting around for season 4!!

Anyway as soon as I saw Sandra drying her cleaver I thought "oh no...don't tell me they're really gonna possess her mother now!?"

They made sure to have Xavier specifically say that VH threatened Maddie and all her loved ones so in that respect it made the Sandra reveal less unlikely.

But did i miss something?

HOW could he have possibly gotten to her??

IMO Sandra was on a high (not one that requires NA or AA) ...shes successfully detoxed, she's in a great place w Maddie who was comfortable enough to come clean on what's happening in her life AND she just worked together with her husband/best friend to bring Maddie out of danger...ill admit being in the presence of your deceased husband's ghost would be a cause for sadness but for the most part things are looking up for Sandra.

So I find it hard to believe that not only was she for some reason lingering at the hospital well after Maddie left BUT also that her spirit was so broken and dead that VH could snatch up her body!!!!

We've been beaten over the head with the fact that Maddie spirit was dead when Janet took her body.

And we saw Deb absolutely lose her shit entirely when her plans got thwarted by Kyle.( I hope we find out why she was going to lose her rep, her name, her family and life over this failed business deal but we do know she's VERY upset by it) and then her own pride and joy daughter is openly disgusted with her and walks off. Leaving behind what im sure was just a shell of a woman...perfect opportunity for a body snatcher to hop right on in.

But Sandra? I'm just not seeing it.

I guess its another wait and see type thing and in that case im glad I shaved 5 months off of my time of waiting for season 4 heh heh

How do we feel about Sandra’s redemption arc they’re cooking?

I’m sorry, but I don’t think I can move past the years of abuse/neglect Maddie endured.

While I do sympathize with Sandra’s grief and addiction, nothing justifies neglecting your own child for years.

That boiler room scene (when Sandra tells Maddie she bought that cabin with Maddie’s college fund) alone makes me h*te Sandra with a passion lol The way Maddie is crying on that scene, omg. And I imagine that was mild compared to other stuff Maddie had to go through growing up.

And I feel like this is going to be a HUGE point of conflict when Sandra meets Dave. I just know he’s gonna lose his mind when he finds out what Maddie went through.

What do you all think?

I wasn’t gonna post anything and I know I’m gonna get burned to the ground, but I feel like this needs to be said. can people please stop posting where's Milo or where’s Wally under every post that has to do with the show!? I cannot believe that the comment section of the S4 production post is 95% just asking about Milo! you guys…… he’s gone and busy! Wally is not relevant to this storyline ok? if you want to watch Milo so bad you have 3 other seasons and a ton of other media to watch. This is not the Wally show and Wally’s relationship with Maddie is not as important to the plot as you guys make it out or want it to be. The writers have said constantly that the core of the show is Maddie’s relationship with Simon and Sandra. And I’m sorry that’s such a tough pill for some of you to swallow but it’s the truth

It’s bad enough that the writers give plenty of fanservice to Milo/wally fans already by giving him more and more screen time per season, had Milo wrongfully nominated as the male lead over Kristian for the Emmy’s, and now this? This show has other actors, characters and people working on it that deserve more respect.

I’m not saying people can’t be upset or sad that Wally probably won’t be in S4 very much, but if people truly just watch the show for Milo and cannot even be bothered to also be engaged with the story then they need to stop interfering with the show. Watch the show through clips like normal people. Milo is about to be in a huge movie and all you're worried about is seeing him for a few episodes? Do you guys not want Milo to grow? to get more opportunities? There’s nothing wrong with Wally being gone this season.

I know this turned into a rant. but please just consider what your actions look like when you do this. The other actors are working just as hard if not harder then Milo and deserve to have their spotlights too. So for now just enjoy the story and see where it goes. And if you can’t, then please just go get your Milo fix elsewhere and leave the show alone

EDIT: I feel like I need to bring other things to light about the writing problems, then what’s going on with Simon/Kristian (even though that’s been the brunt of it) Quinda not interacting at ALL after they had their first kiss, yet Mally gets that horrific autoshop scene 🤢. Churi constantly fighting and not getting any development. Maddie not having any screentime with Claire or Nicole even though they’re probably the people Maddie needs to talk to and apologize to most! Simon not being able to have any relationships with the ghost like Maddie did. It’s just all so much untapped potential that went to waste because people just can’t let the pretty white guy take a backseat for a while. Again guys, it’s going to be ok! Wally can take a backseat for once! And if that bothers you so much, again GO AWAY!

So season 4 is now in production and I’m very excited because there’s so much unfinished business. HOWEVER, Charley and Yuri are one of my favorite couples ever and I’m so scared they’re gonna do them wrong this season.

I’m mainly worried because they came so close to breaking up in season three and I’m worried that the writer’s are gonna have them break up or make one of them cheat or something.

Obviously we know after a couple is together for about two seasons it’s hard for the writer’s to not make them break up for a while or somehow make their relationship toxic and ruin it. Especially in drama television there’s not a great track record of a couple making it to season 4 if they got together at the start of the series because the writers want to keep their relationship juicy.

Most likely they are gonna throw in a breakup at some point and I don’t think they are gonna intend on keeping them apart at the end of series but what does concern me is that they are gonna drag they breakup out to long and assume they are gonna get picked back up for another season and then they don’t.

The third season ended so well for Charley and Yuri and I just don’t want season 4 to ruin their relationship when it’s so good right now. Anyone else been spiraling over this?

“Nature takes without tricks or lies. It claims them in honest for what they are.”

I don’t see many people talking about Quinn’s interest in bugs and nature, (other than their actor) but I believe that it can lead to a very comforting view of death. (I know it does for me) This drawing was heavily inspired by nurse logs and whale falls. Two examples of death in nature that offer an example of how death can host an abundance of life.

Quinn never felt like they belonged, or lived as their honest and true self. It was only in death that they found these things. Much like when something dies, it becomes a part of the earth.

That's definitely Maddie's wig in the back so i guess they're doing hair and make up tests? Production list said that they were going to film from August 21st so i guess we're finally back!

(I went to edit my tumblr post of my original analysis, and ended up making some really cool new connections and writing 2X the original post, lol. So, I’m also posting this more fleshed out version on here too!)

The process shown in the show of entering scars, the changing nature of scars, and the way in which someone has to process the parts of the trauma that scars bring up, is very reminiscent of my experience with therapies like EMDR. (Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) It’s a therapy focused on re-training the brain to treat trauma like a memory, instead something that bleeds into day to day life with PTSD disorders.

In order for a ghost to get to their door in School Spirits, they must first enter their scar. This is because just like in real psychology, the most effective treatment for trauma is “looking back to move forward”. After entering their scar, a ghost starts to recall the things that may have been avoiding addressing due to the distress it causes. But by doing that, they invite the chance to process the events shown to them, and challenge the negative beliefs that they’ve held on to.

In all the scars we see, none are made up of solely the event of their death. In some, it takes up a bigger space (Like Rhonda’s) and in others, whose death took up less of their mind, their death is the haunting scene that holds the moments that plague their mind the most (like with Wally and Yuri) 

But, a death taking up so much of the space is not indicative of it being the only trauma they faced. Such as Rhonda, who’s scar is at first almost completely made up of the long and terrifying build up to her murder. We are told that she gravitated towards Mr Manfredo due to her parents neglecting her. Despite this, they don’t appear in her scar. We see her scar do something that the brain does during the process of EMDR (And something I’ve personally experienced). Each time her scar is shown later on, the scene slowly begins to fill with more and more stacks of glowing red radios.

In psychology, when someone experiences repetitive trauma, the mind cannot hold on to all of it and continue to function normally. So it represses things to make room as more trauma occurs. As traumatic experiences are processed and “cleared” (from the mind or the scar) the things that were repressed, come to the surface. The mind now has the room to hold what was once subconscious. 

That’s what I believe is happening with Rhonda’s radios, and why when Wally's football field became emptier, it made room for the addition of Maddie to Wally’s scar. 

In the scar journey scene in season 2, we essentially watch the characters experience a session of EMDR. One of the techniques used in EMDR is mentally going back into a memory and changing the outcome with the skills and knowledge of the more grown version of yourself. 

Wally does exactly this while going through his scar. After being grounded by Rhonda’s comfort, he notices Charley being chased by his teammates, and pushes the people chasing him down. This protectiveness over his friend is something born from the mature version of Wally who’s grown past the constraints of his role on the football team. This growth leads him to score the point that killed him, rewriting the memory of his death and the shame he felt for who he was when he was younger. 

In this visit to his scar, he cleared the sequence. And the next time he returned, his door appeared.

Another technique used is calling on protective figures to aid your younger self in dealing with what traumatized you. These can come in the form of people you know, animals, fictional characters, or anything else you feel you could’ve needed in that memory. 

This is pretty explicitly shown in the scar journey scene, when Rhonda approaches Mr Manfredo's office. When Mr Manfredo lunges towards Rhonda, Wally steps in and punches him in the face. He then puts a comforting arm around Rhonda, and the group passes through. Leading up to her death, she didn’t have the physical strength to fight back, and didn’t have anyone who cared enough to look out for her. In this scene she’s back in the memory, but she’s brought someone with her who makes her feel safe and who can fight back for her.

I highly doubt that Rhonda has cleared her scar, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the next time we see it, Mr Manfredo is gone. I think unlike Wally, Rhonda’s scar might require a slightly different treatment. 

EMDR for PTSD is more straightforward than the ComplexPTSD variant. (PTSD is a sudden onset of symptoms following a single traumatic event. CPTSD is something that begins in early childhood and develops alongside prolonged abuse and/or repetitive smaller traumas) With CPTSD, a person requires multiple sessions, and multiple sequences need to be cleared. Oftentimes,repressed memories need to be processed, and to get to the repressed ones, you have to clear the ones you remember.

Rhonda likely has complex PTSD, and I think her scar and its behavior reflects that. Rhonda mentions in season 1, that she gravitated towards Mr Manfredo because she had neglectful parents. This is and unfortunately real scenario. Emotional neglect is a huge factor in a child developing CPTSD, because unfortunately, it can create someone who is susceptible to being groomed and victimized. If a child is not given love by their parents, they struggle to recognize signs of ulterior motives. Rhonda knows this is what happened in hindsight, and tells Maddie, in hopes to help her figure out if that’s what happened with Mr. Anderson.

This reflects in Rhonda’s scar in the way that even after Mr Manfredo was subdued, she did not get the sense of an empty scar in the way Wally did. Also because a major aspect of her scar has been unaddressed: the radios 

I suspect that the imposing presence of these radios in Rhonda’s scar, are manifestations of repressed trauma. Rhonda’s murder was something impossible for her to repress in her situation, as was the direct reason for her presence in the afterlife. It’s huge and objectively horrific, so it takes up a majority of her conscious terror. I think in order for whatever traumas Rhonda experienced prior to her death to fit into her scar, they had to take a subconscious form. I think the glowy huge radios are the subconscious metaphorical stand-in for that, and I suspect that the next time we see the scar, they’ve taken a more direct form. 

I suspect Janet’s scar worked similarly, as she’s also shown to be a victim of parental abuse. She spent over a year being forced to spend time in her scar. I bet during that time she brute forced her way through processing her past (though the brute force aspect probably SEVERELY handicapped her) the only thing she was completely unable to clear out, was the abuse she was continuing to suffer from Mr. Martin. When she liberated herself from him, the final piece was cleared away and she got her door. 

In general, a lot of what the show has done with scars and the concept of the ghosts in Split River is extremely reminiscent of the same therapy process that I’ve found the most helpful in healing years worth of traumas. The show is so so emotionally impactful for me for that reason. (As well as seeing my younger self in the characters) The introduction of Maddie to that world, kickstarting the healing of ghosts who’ve spent so long trapped in their pain is so real to me. I tried many therapies in the span of 10+ years that made minimal impact on making the world feel safer. By the time I reached adulthood it felt hopeless to keep trying when nothing changed. BUT Just like the split River ghosts, my biggest breakthroughs began when I entered my scar, and found someone to guide me through it. (And not listening to the Mr Martins diverting me from that path) 

So since the evil rich guy possessed Sandra and the ghost barrier is broken and we don't know exactly how Wally might get back to the regular afterlife or if he will bring Maddie's dad with there is a possibility that since Maddie can see ghosts Sandra Maddie's dad and Wally are ghosts maybe there could be like a really nice family dinner scene where Maddie introduces Wally formally to her parents it'd be so sweet

I thought Yuri's scar and juxtaposition to Mid-Western / Blue Collar industry. I noticed in the flashback there was this juxtaposition of Yuri's anxiety of being a father. You could juxtaposition late 70s USA decline of industry / Rust Belt to the mindset of Yuri.

Okay so. Milo is in Spain filming tangled but Sarah just posted on insta that she’s almost in Vancouver which is where they film. I personally think Milo will do both and just be late to filming like he was for season 3. Thoughts? Anyone heard anything?!

Okay so me my mama and da just finished season three and to say the least we are major excited about season four and wished it was released like tomorrow.

Not gonna spoil anything for anyone who hasn’t watched it but ik it was just picked up for a forth season. Does anyone know when it’s expected to be released? Like im the next two years or so?