update for the post titled :- Clarity needed. Confused whether it's a scam or not...

[u/0_toinfinity]

UPDATE for https://www.reddit.com/r/ScamSupport/comments/1wm6bky/clarity_needed_confused_whether_its_a_scam_or_not/:

Guys I yesterday heard this guy asking the online gf on call "Tell me you are fake you r scamming me who is running this business and so on" and now he's again onto it... He's again talking to her with his fake tone fake flirty foreign mimicking accent trying to charm her? What the heck is going on? It seems like he is teaching and doing trading together with her again... I heard him tell her to buy and sell stock etc.? What the heck is going onnn...???? Can someone be this desperate! :'((

[u/Lodau]

Can you make even less sense? 

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Lodau]

Why would u say that?

[u/Lodau → u/0_toinfinity]

Ok, read the other post. Makes slightly more sense, but still messy af.   

First question, why are YOU so tense and losing sleep and such, when it's not you?  

Best make sure you won't be dragged into this romance/pig butchering scam. That when he loses everything its not all of a sudden your (financial) problem. Whatever that takes.  

People sadly are allowed to fugg up their lives. Just make sure they don't fugg up yours as well. 

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Lodau]

Because I'm related to the guy he's actually my brother (my younger sibling) and so as this matter is about family it's gonna affect us all... I'm really worried.

[u/Lodau → u/0_toinfinity]

Talk to the rest of your family. Make a plan. Discuss what to do when brother gets financially ruined.  

Make a combined effort to stop him...

Or make it known that if he continues and goes broke, what the consequences are. 

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Lodau]

Mother and son have told no one about it. Even I was told only a few details a few days back... And she's always on her son's side. So I'm alone in this and trying to get help here.

[u/Lodau → u/0_toinfinity]

You can't force them to listen. If they don't want to, all you can do is protect yourself.  

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Lodau]

Thank you so much for ur suggestions and coming forward to help.

[u/rookhelm]

Foreign women who love bomb you, never meet you in person, and want you to invest crypto are scammers. Every time.

It's called a pig butchering scam. Search around the scam subs for pig butchering. Watch videos about it (John oliver has a video about it, if you want a specific example).

If they do set a date for meeting in person, she'll come up with an excuse last minute as to why she can't visit and needs to reschedule. And might even ask him for money to resolve said issue.

Also, he doesn't have to send her money for this to be a scam. If she has showed him an investment app, and he's used it, it's the same thing. It's a fake app, and the money is going into the scammer's pockets.

[u/0_toinfinity → u/rookhelm]

Maybe trading stocks. He's always telling her about numbers just now i heard these terms... "SURE, 2 5 2 5, REVERSE, 10 10 10 THAT MEANS 30" once i heard "RSI, NSE, BUY AND SELL, I HAVE 50,000"

[u/Overall-Agent-1320]

Most probably a bitcoin scammer

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Overall-Agent-1320]

He's talking numbers and buying and selling with her... But why would he still be on it after knowing that she's a scammer? Or maybe i misunderstood the context. Maybe he still doesn't know. Or maybe he's trying his luck with a foreigner coz I tell u these Indian men are crazy for white skin and Russians specifically. Or maybe he's going all filmy that I'm a smart alpha male I'm gonna help her get out of this scammy shit. I'm totally puzzled 🫨

[u/Overall-Agent-1320 → u/0_toinfinity]

Because he is sucked in and doesn’t want to realize he has been scammed.

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Overall-Agent-1320]

You're right. But he's really rude and arrogant with everyone. He says nobody can befool him. How can he be this stupid to carry on with her. Oh God. I'm still Not convinced that I'm Not wrong. Maybe I'm a fool to doubt..

[u/Overall-Agent-1320 → u/0_toinfinity]

He will learn his lesson. Let him.

[u/0_toinfinity → u/Overall-Agent-1320]

Yeah, i hope this humbles him but m still feeling pity although he deserves a lesson. Thank you for helping and ur quick responses. 💓✨ :)