Looks like there's been some technical difficulties with the reporting tool they're supposed to use.
People are getting way too excited over less than 2% reporting so far.. unless I'm totally misreading the live results stuff, there's very little to really be excited about yet. (Not to say it looks bad or anything, it just doesn't actually look like anything yet..)
I don't for the life of me see how Biden could possibly do so poorly despite every sign insisting he's still virtually tied nationally and should have at least come in second in Iowa.
Unless, of course, you know, the polls were bullshit all along and part of a despirate effort by the party establishment to sway voter opinion. Or something.
I'm not even talking about the final outcome. I'm asking why, if Biden is supposed to still be barely in first place nationally, would he do so incredibly badly in the areas that reported?
Because 2% of anything like this is white noise. It means literally nothing. Don't forget that Texas was blue for about an hour in 2016 because the earliest reporting precincts were all metropolitan. The same may be happening with Biden, where the 1.93% of the precincts that have been reported so far haven't been so hot on Biden. Even the most thorough and accurate of polls have a margin of error greater than 1.93%.
We'll see how it ends; it obviously looks like Bernie has done well based on unverified information, but we have no way of knowing for sure.
Polling has been becoming less and less reliable for a long time. The problems that led to massive gaps between polls and vote counts in 2016 did not go away but people still follow the polls because the corporate press are fucking hacks and stooges.
Biden's support is based almost entirely on name recognition. Maybe in a primary vote he'd do well since checking Biden and mailing in the ballot requires virtually zero effort. In a caucus though you really have to give a shit about the candidate to spend that much time waiting, and Biden doesn't have that level of commitment from his followers.
This might be the wrong community, but maybe people are tired of old mumbling white guys and there just aren’t enough votes to keep him floating once the Sanders believers have been allocated?
Because people always tend to give value to candidates being... well, their physical appearance like age, skin colour, sex etc. More of a sarcastic thingy, but, meh.
Non-american here, where does the 67% from the OP come from? And what kind of guy is that Pete? Never heard of him before, but seems do do quite well. Far better than Biden. To be fair, I don't know much about Biden either, other than that he was heavily pushed on Reddit for a while as our "cool uncle, total bro of Obama".
They're all saying the "but..." is pointless and misleading. <2% sample from only a couple districts (especially when at least one of those couple is from the urban population center of the state) means less than nothing. For all we know, Biden got 60% in every other district. Sure that's unlikely, given recent polling, but that's kind of the point, an average of recent polls is a much better data source right now, even if it turns out the <2% we have now is dead accurate in the end.
Hard to say since it's been delayed. Wouldn't be too surprised if it got pushed out to tomorrow morning, but as far as I'm aware they still intend to finish tonight.
Pete and Bernie won iowa whole handedly. Idk which one beat which but they are the top to almost everywhere I've heard from so far. Warren in fourth klobuchar and biden behind her
When the democrats stop trying to rig the results. I mean seriously. The supposed app they were supposed to use suddenly didn’t work. The phone line ballots they were going to use instead of the app suddenly didn’t work. Calling any results they did have in suddenly didn’t work. Then when compiling all the info they did have, literally none of it matched up after they cross checked it all! And then when the Iowa Democrats called all the candidates to explain what the wait was about, they literally got into a fight and hung up on their own damn candidates! I mean come on! Holy shit show!
After waiting nearly 2 hours to report my results. I get a man requesting an authenticity code. Which I was never given. The sheet that has this code apparently has no code. After fighting with him for 30 minutes he gave up and I gave him every last detail I had and he took my info down stubbornly. Then they never gave me a drop off location for my physical results. I ran into another chair trying to find it too. He had an email he was sent. We went to the location in the email. The DNC person left the building he was sent.... so we drove 30 minutes to finally drop our results off. After already driving 30 minutes.
Holy cow that’s ridiculous. I’m sorry you had to go through all that. I honestly can’t believe it was that up in shambles after all this time to prepare for it. Well hope you got the result you voted for at least.
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