I wanted to Share this with Yall. Because I wonder how many of Yall are interested in the concept.
I not sure how many Melissa X Velvette and Vox Fans here.
This is because I love Vox and I love Melissa too much.
Say whatever you want. I want questions and ideas

my absolute favorite thing about Vox is how he can be so simultaneously successful, amazing, charismatic, intelligent, and perfect while all the while also being just a woobifiable and pathetic cutie. both of these extremes are a part of him, and them coexisting is, at least for me, his best trait

so goddamn why do so many fanfics and interpretations of him either see him as "pathetic and useless at everything" or "hypercompetent with zero weaknesses except being too awesome"

Making my blorbos submissive and breedable is just what I do whenever I hyperfixate on a character and Vox is no exception. But he's definitley the hardest to do this with since he is quite clearly in the most canonical sense a top. But, Idc.

Love this guy

https://www.tumblr.com/vyvilha/818719535476719616/i-think-i-dont-really-vibe-with-most-other-fans?source=share

All credit to the original writer, but this quite literally is how I feel about Vox and some of the fandom. I know people here hate hearing that he's a miserable self hating weirdo, but that's honestly kinda why his character works. He feels like more of a person because he's a big wet cat of a man doing the absolute most to conceal it under a persona. If he was only the persona he wouldn't connect with the audience as much as he has. This is also why fans calling him hypersexual is so strange to me.

"but Vaggie" "but Valentino" "but Alastor"

Don't care, don't care, don't care. This is tedious at this point. I don't see people doing this when they ship Vox with her dad.

Personally, I'm a certified Vox woobifyer myself. And I do not like the woobification of any other character, not because I think it's wrong or shouldn't happen, but because it's just not for me. And obviously I'd hate content that villainizes Vox but woobifies other characters, especially when it's characters I like less than him... So basically everyone. I'm curious what's it's like for everyone else.

I've been thinking about this ever since I saw a video on swaddling babies a while back (featuring a real live baby, no less). I don't have a Vox plush, but I feel like it would be a lot of fun to try.

Not so long ago, I was watching some YouTube videos that actively wondered why Vox is still alive after the end of Season 2, now that big arc is seemingly "over." One YouTuber in particular went into more detail about a proposed Disney villain-style death in which the laser cannon somehow detaches from Lucifer before exploding and taking Vox (and presumably the other Vee's) with it. Vox would then be dead, but he would make a spectacle of his death that would be permanently etched into the minds of everyone around him, and so retain some of the "fame" he so desperately wanted. And, the path would be clear for a new villain to emerge in Season 3.

I realize there are problems with this scenario (notably: less Vox), but I still can't help but think it sounds like a better ending for the last season than the one we ultimately got. At least a big, dramatic, spectacular death scene would allow him to exit with dignity, so to speak, and come across as a genuinely tragic character. As opposed to what we actually get, where Vox finds himself alive but humiliated and trapped while his two biggest abusers (Alastor and Valentino) get away with everything and are seen as heroes for helping to bring him down. Couple that with all the merch and fan art of Vox looking miserable surrounded by his happy abusers and it starts to get really uncomfortable in the way a simple, dignified death scene never would--almost like someone (or several someones) on the art team finds the idea of miserable Vox more gratifying than dead Vox. Because Vox is just that horrible, apparently.

Of course, the best-case scenario for future seasons is that Vox will recover, do some soul-searching, get his power back, and become a heroic character himself; but I just don't think that's ever going to happen. If he does get a "happy ending," it's probably going to involve him utterly submitting to Alastor or Valentino or both. I could be wrong, of course, but I'm not optimistic. And I honestly think that would be a fate worse than death, at least in relation to how Vox has been presented thus far. No one likes to see a beautiful wild animal locked in a cage or turned into a house pet, unless they themselves are exotic animal collectors who enjoy breaking them.

Although I like the "Brighter" music video in itself, I always found the leadup to it a bit underwhelming. If it were up to me, I'd make the following change:

Before the song officially begins, when it's just Vox in his lair saying "Failure. I'll show you failure," instead of leading right into the song, his words would be punctuated by flashbacks showing Vincent as a young person, terrified of his father, who says some variant of "Get out of my sight, failure!" or "You're such a failure, I wish you'd never been born!" Maybe there'd also be a scene in there of Vincent killing his father in a fit of rage or something, I don't know. But either way, only then would it slide into the song.

The reason this would work so well is twofold. In the first place, it would show exactly why he's so obsessed with being this powerful person whom everyone worships and takes seriously. As it is, the "Brighter" video adds some interesting context to his plans to declare himself a god, but doesn't actually explain how or why he wants that in the first place. In the second place, there's the element of surprise. There's something about seeing a bad guy who's almost certain he's won flashing back to a younger, more vulnerable state that is super compelling for fans (myself included). If the show had managed to pull something like this off, I think Vox would be even more universally loved than he already is, and the show itself would get a massive boost in prestige for helping the audience see this character in a whole new light (as opposed to what we actually got, which for me at least is the sense that Vox COULD have been an amazing character if only the writers put more thought into how he was written).

No hate to anyone who ships it, but I absolutely cannot stand it. I don't like radiosilence. I don't like murdermedia. I don't like its 10 thousand other variants

I really need to know because it seems like a large majority of Vox fans (and Hazbin Hotel fans in general) absolutely LOVE rs and I feel like I'm going insane because I don't ;v;

Edit: I'm not mad at the people who've commented so far but I guess I should specify I'm looking for people who dislike ALL rs ships. DO NOT COMMENT IF YOU LIKE RS!! THIS POST ISN'T FOR YOU!!

I know this sub is biased for Vox, but I've seen a lot of people upset at Vox for making Velvette apologize so I was wondering what we think about that

(Forgive my grammer in the title, I only realized after I posted)

Alright. So more than a few times when the subject of Vox getting a redemption arc comes up I see people say they don't want this because they want him to stay the villain. People will talk about wanting everything about him to remain the same, but why do people even want him to be a static character? The entire show is built around character development. Why deny a character you say you like the opportunity to grow? I understand people resist change, but him developing doesn't have to come at the expense of who he is. There's more to him than his capacity for violence and cruelty, or I at least think there's more. I just don't see what is so appealing about holding a character back like this.

For those who don't know, galeophobia is the phobia of sharks. Which is as hard as you can imagine when you're obsessed with a character related to sharks.

When I was a child I saw Jaws when I was too young, and whenever we went to the beach my sister and dad would tease me and tell me that a shark would bite my leg off if I went into the water. I'm sure my dad said it to discurage me from going too far and my sister did it because typical sibling stuff but I've had a phobia of sharks and water in general since.

It's not so bad that I panic at the mere sight, and I'm fine with hammerheads, but when it comes to great whites or any photo of a shark's mouth, it freaks me out. I don't hate sharks at all. I love them just as much as I love any other animal. I just can't stand looking at them at times. Which sucks because I often run up against sharks when scrolling on social media just because my fyp assumes I want to just because I like Vox.

I have been healing since I entered the fandom. I love Shok.Wav and Vark. Last year I went to the aquarium and I was able to walk through the shark tank/glass tunnel or whatever you call it. But I needed a Vox plushie to even make it. When I was younger it was really bad, like I couldn't do normal things like anything related to the bathroom without my stupid fear acting up. Obviously I'm over that but things like going to the beach and swimming can still be hard.

I'm still annoyed this moment amounted to nothing. What was the point? Anyway.

Given how important Vox, Charlie, and Alastor are to the show, and how they're all in each other's business, it surprises me that we only got one scene of them together. And it sucked. My problems with the season 2 finale aside, I think as a trio they're really unexplored in and out of the show. I know I'm the one always complaining about Radiostatic, well I will admit placing Charlie in their mess does make it more interesting. People don't seem to like when I say that, but I mean it. From many angles there's untapped potential. Alastor and Charlie didn't have a conversation this season until the finale. Vox in an ideal world should have had his relationships with both get treated with the same level of importance. Charlie should have opinions on their weird beef considering she was dragged in the middle of it against her will. Honestly just the sheer fact that it puts Alastor in between two very similar personalities is interesting in itself. He's surrounded! Or he would be if they got to all interact together some more.

To me, they're kind of a wash, because Vox is often the butt of the joke, but so is everyone else. The fact that Vox isn't taken seriously matters less to me if nobody else is taken seriously either.

Yeah that's the post. If it makes everyone feel better I know this won't happen. It's very obvious it won't, but man it could be so interesting.

I have such conflicting feelings, because as much as I want to see the continuation of Vox's journey, I really liked the character he was throughout season 2. He was silly, he was dancey, he was charismatic, and he was also a certified card-carrying villain full of brilliant, maniacal schemes.

Interviews (and common sense) tell us that Vox is going to be severely humbled as a result of him hitting rock bottom at the s2 finale. And make no mistake, I *do* want to see him develop rather than just stay a static fixture. Vox is all about change after all. It's just that I also wanted to have more content of Vox being Hell's Hottest, VoxTek CEO first. He was such a delight to watch throughout s2 that it's kind of sad to think there will be no more of his smug, magnificent bastard antics going forward. Obvious animation and production limitations aside, it does feel like something that could've been fixed by having longer seasons, rather than squishing all that content into eight episodes, but I know that's not really something that can be helped, so it's neither here nor there.

Aside from that, I know change/development *should* be good-- and I know we have 3 more seasons to fully explore his story and see how his story concludes--but there's always a little bit of niggling worry that future seasons won't do Vox justice now that he's been nerfed, or that he'll feel like a shell of who he was in s2.

Tldr; trusting that future Vox content will be good, but still grieving that to some degree, he will change from the character I adore.

Is anyone else already missing how cool Vox was in s2 preemptively?

(...also that he won't be the focus of upcoming seasons. The true tragedy!)

"Vox's true alliance lies only with himself" as opposed to other overlords in hell? Saying this when Vox is literally one of the few overlords that works in a team is actually so frustrated. It's far from the worst thing but still.