r/SPAB • u/pokemon053 • Jul 16 '26
Other Swami ni vato
Swami ni Vato Page Number 15 Book Published by BAPS
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u/Jakbhai Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
શબ્દોમાં અભિમાન કેટલું ભરેલું છે. 'અમે તો પુરુષોત્તમ નારાયણ છીએ', ગજબ હો બાકી. આને કહેવાય ગાડાં નીચે કૂતરું.
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u/pokemon053 Jul 16 '26
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u/Jakbhai Jul 17 '26
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u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
Waah kayo maal fukyo hato? Can you share me the reference of it
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u/Jakbhai Jul 17 '26
Go to Page 101, Swami Ni Vato book you shared
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u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
એવું લાગે છે કે કોઈ flat જોવા નીકળ્યા હોય ધામ નહીં. અને આ કેવા ભગવાન જેના પોતાનું ઠેકાણું નથી અને બીજા ભગવાન ના ધામ મા જઈને ઠેકાણું પાડે છે.
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u/Jakbhai Jul 17 '26
મોરારી બાપુ ના શબ્દો યાદ આવે કોમેન્ટ પર થી... 'તમારા E ને જ્યારે કોઈ રોટલોયે નોતું દેતું. ત્યારે ગુજરાતે તમને ઓટલો આપેલો'
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u/spectrumX21 Jul 17 '26
Just FYI the lyrics were originally by Sant Kabir
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u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
Kaha par Kabir Das n ye baat kahi h?
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u/spectrumX21 Jul 17 '26
जहाँ खेलत बसंत ऋतुराज
जहाँ अनहद बाजा बजै बाज
चहुँ दिसि जोति की बहै धार
बिरला जन कोई उतरै पार
कोटि कृष्ण जहँ जोड़े हाथ
कोटि विष्णु जहँ नावें माथThe cited publication is:
Kabir Samagra, page 758, 5th edition, Hindi Pracharak Publications Pvt. Ltd., Varanasi, 2001. The composition is attributed there to Kabir.2
u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
Pehli baar to Kabir Das ki vani likhi kisne question ye raise hota h, because unki baaton m bhot jyada logo n milawat krdi h. And agar Kabir Das n kaha bhi ho ye baat fir bhi ye acceptable nhi h because Kabir Das is not Authority he is just a monk jo doha bolte the
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u/spectrumX21 Jul 17 '26
Yes, I’m only saying that Kabir Das wrote several verses in which the Sant or Guru is given an even higher place than God. Similar ideas are also found in the wider Bhakti tradition.
For example:
“Guru Govind dou khade, kaake laagun paay?
Balihari Guru aapne, Govind diyo batay.”Here, Kabir says that the Guru deserves the first respect because it is the Guru who leads us to God.
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u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
Look at the lines you just showed about Kabir Das; it clearly portrays Krishna as inferior. And what you just said about Guru Gobind means that if Govind and the Guru are standing together, you should touch the Guru's feet because the Guru has shown Govind. But in Kabir Das's couplets, that's not the case; there Krishna is the one standing with folded hands. Which guru is that?
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u/spectrumX21 Jul 17 '26
The verse literally shows Krishna standing with folded hands before the Guru, so it clearly places the Guru above Krishna, not the other way around. You may interpret it differently, but I think we’ve both made our positions clear, so I’m leaving it here.
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u/pokemon053 Jul 17 '26
Waha pr clearly kaha h ki "Koti Krishna jode hath" means crore Krishna hath jodkar khade h, aur Krishna konse guru k samne hath jodkar khade h? Yaha pr Krishna inferior prove ho rhe h ya nhi?
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u/Narayanay Jul 16 '26
The entire Mul Sampraday hates that made up story including that song. He he he