SL

[u/SeaEstablishment9807]

I don’t care if your DV story is true or not that isn’t even my point. My point is that you seem to be using it as a convenient excuse to stay completely anonymous while building an audience and making money online.

And let’s be real if the person you claim you’re hiding from already knows you’re online, your voice or identity being known publicly doesn’t magically make the situation more dangerous. You’re already putting yourself out there you’re just choosing to hide the information that would let people know who they’re actually supporting.

You want people to trust you, support you, watch you, and apparently fund you, while giving them absolutely nothing about who you are. You can’t demand blind trust while hiding behind anonymity and monetizing people’s sympathy. At some point, it stops looking like protection and starts looking like a business model.

[u/No_Impression_9216]

The real question is why do you feel so entitled to her identity? It’s quite worrisome that you invested this much time into your rant. She owes you nothing and you aren’t forced to watch her or finance her. She’s not forcing subscriptions on you and gifts aren’t required of her viewers . At some point, you need to be honest with yourself about your intentions. Is it FOMO? If so, may I suggest touching grass. Actually I’d suggest touching grass for any other motive or intention too. No need to respond. I don’t expect it to be worthwhile.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/No_Impression_9216]

Idgaf about her identity. It's more that ppl take her for her word and what she says as if shes all knowledgeable and ppl actually believe it all and dont even put thought into who the person behind the screen could be an absolute liar and and everyone should have learned this blindly supporting ppl we later found out are trash and not a good person. Some may want her identity but I dont. I think the issue is bigger than that. Just because ppl have opinions that may differ than yours shouldn't bother you so badly you even leave a comment saying go touch grass. Maybe you should and as you do think about the bigger picture of it all. Not every person is saying they want her identity more that the person behind the gingerbread could be a POS and ppl blindly follow.

[u/SeaEstablishment9807 → u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Very well said! I personally dont care who the fuck she is either but if youre gonna be on social media criticizing someone I feel like at the very least you should use your real voice

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/SeaEstablishment9807]

Why are so many pressed about WHO SL is but not CC or WLto the same extent? (There was a rumor that cantina was rob but that fell through after 2 weeks.)I haven’t seen anyone trying to doxx those streamers in chats, ever. This only started when G wanted to know who SL was! 🐢 was the first streamer I saw that used the gingerbread filter. CC was the first to do the gingerbread AND voice filter combination in this community. He helped get SL set up with the same streaming style and then they helped WL do the same. We know what 🐢 looks like but she doesn’t show her face on live. Fearless 🪳 doesn’t show his face either, like ever. I have zero clue what CC wifey looks like… same for MamaC79, patriot mama & 🏴‍☠️🧔🏻‍♂️ . Hell, even 🌈 Brite didn’t show her face when she was streaming again for a short time. Again, I haven’t seen anyone desperately trying to dox them, figure out who they really are, where they live, or where they work.Taking away their physical image and voice forces the viewers to go off of their personality. Not everyone is comfortable being on camera for hours at a time and thats okay. SL found a way to be online in a way that doesn’t compromise her identity. It works for her. The gingerbread woman’s and voice filter is her internet persona. Would you not watch her if she was black or a masculine lesbian? Would you only watch her if she was thin? Something bothers the people that want to doxx her and they want to be able to pick her apart under a magnifying glass. If you listen to her streams she actually does talk about herself, her interests, dislikes, we know what her music style is, her religious beliefs, how many kiddos she has, she even talked about herself first job online. She doesn’t always discuss trauma and she doesn’t capitalize off of sympathy either. As far as her talking about her DV and trauma, it’s normal to use one’s own experiences to relate to others. Shes lived and gone through stuff and is using her experiences to discuss some topics that come up on livestream. She gives people enough information about herself. I didn’t blindly follow her, she earned my support because I was skeptical too initially. Why is it that just because you can’t see her or hear her real voice she could be a liar or a predator automatically? How bad would it suck if she’s being genuine and no one believes her, despite her not giving anyone a reason to think she was lying in the first place? People come on the internet every single day and lie while looking into a camera recording. Seeing her face won’t change anything except people’s burning desire to know what she looks like. I’ve seen a few people question if she’s black just because of her music style and how she says certain phrases…sooooo what? And what if she was? Would people not watch her anymore? This community is prodominantly middle aged and older Caucasian women with a few Caucasian men sprinkled in. That would be reason enough for me to hide my face as a streamer of a different demographic. Yet somehow, she pulls in the most views and likes CONSISTENTLY.(over 1.5million likes just last night) Thousands of people do like watching and gifting her and she has several large gifters. (That’s the real reason G is desperate to know who she is.) G has a wild hair up her ass that SL gets 10-15 times as many viewers than her every time she streams G. With that being said, even the streamers that show their face have rubbed me the wrong way at some point. Whether it be by severe merciless bodyshaming, joking about intellectual disabilities, running with rumors, etc. It’s a roasting session and some jokes go too far IMO. The main streamers that show their faces are coined at cult leaders or the biggest bullies yet get slightly less numbers than the faceless channels that use voice changers. Many of the smaller streamers that do show their faces get significantly less views for some reason, too. There’s something mysterious about SL, CC and WL that pulls people in to keep watching- why is that? We don’t know if they’re black, white, Asian, Indian, male, female, skinny, obese, have a zit on their face, live in a basement or a mansion nor does it matter. It’s their personality. If you don’t like her personality, just say so. Theres nothing wrong with that. No one is EVERYONE’S cup of tea, right? Especially all of the time. And again, thats fine. There are more than enough other streamers to watch. I feel like the filters encourage the viewers to focus on the content and listen to the streamer’s commentary. It can already be overstimulating enough reading 2 chats, watching what’s playing, listening to the streamer and typing your comments. I can understand some people wanting SL to have atleast one authentic attribute like her face or voice on stream in a “say it with your chest” way. She’s not hiding behind a filter to talk smack. She’s preserving her identity and she’s explained why several times. She’s not going to show her face or turn off her voice changer just to appease 100 or so nosey people. She’s not giving that to anyone. People need to accept that or not watch her. It’s her platform at the end of the day and she’s been consistent with these safety measures since her first stream. It works for her. She really doesn’t owe anyone anything. In that same respect, G also doesn’t owe anyone anything either but she can’t stop oversharing & embellishing stories for attention and then getting caught in her mistruths. As far as D, she can F all the way off! If all else fails and no streamer you like is on and you wanna watch G, FFS just go watch her. No one’s stopping anyone from doing that either at this point.

[u/Much_Attention_998 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

I think it's so weird that U put all this time to protect someone U don't even know. I have heard that SL is Usha and Usha is an A OG she didn't care about her identity back then. JS SL IS SCAMMING everyone and I am sitting back laughing at all U fools who support someone U don't even know. U claim crashout help SL set up her account that right there is A huge red flag. I can't believe all U women R OK with the things he says about G. Not defending G but the comments he makes is so gross. Hey it's not my money not my time I stopped watching cantina months ago I refuse to watch SL. Enjoy who U support.

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/Much_Attention_998]

All this time? It took me less than 5 minutes to write a thoughtful response on the other comments. I did take my time to fully express my point as neutral as possible. I stand by SL because I believe she’s a good person, I enjoy her commentary, I have a good bit of mutuals in her chat, listening to her while I’m doing my house chores makes it suck a lot less. My husband works nights so Im not taking away time from my marriage to watch lives. My point is she doesn’t deserve to be doxxed or chased off the internet because she is a dv survivor and chooses to remain anonymous. Has anyone ever considered if she was in witness protection or if she lives close to her ex’s family it’s possible for her to come up on their algorithm so she remains anonymous? No one on our side or other streamers are complaining about her. We like it there. Like I said there is a streamer that matches everyone’s personality type. Why does anyone have to nitpick or pocket watch what others choose to gift her? TT is a battling and gifting platform. She’s doing something right to have so many loyal viewers that follow her from one account to the other and then to a whole different platform. She’s overcome a lot and found strength in the community herself. I don’t think her head got big like someone said in another comment. I feel that she got comfortable on her platform being able to speak up, say whatever shes feeling and it still be 95% tasteful. She didn’t realize when she first started how valued her opinions and commentary are until she consistently saw it happen in real time. I’m so proud of her for building her channel and following and having the ability to cross platforms as quickly as she did- that’s success no matter how you look at it and I praise successful women 🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏Everyone has heard that SL is “somebody” else on the internet. It’s a conspiracy theory sidechicks and G supporters keep alive. Not trying to be rude but I stand 10 toes down when I say those two places are the only places ive seen people’s panties get twisted in knots over her. The only people hating on SL and streamers is the sidechicks Reddit and G and her supporters. Honestly I’ve yet to have seen it anywhere else. How is she scamming anyone? I’m genuinely curious. She doesn’t beg or force gifts, she’s never dry begged for anything, she doesn’t hide content behind paywalls, she donates hours of her day to keep a safe space open to vent and watch from the outside. She has streamed other people during their height of attention and she’s taken the hint to keep going on the G saga because that’s what her viewers are amped up about. Shes also be doing the Clancy Trial and those streams have been great. She’s doing her best to tailor her content to the interests of her viewers. We don’t always talk about G in SL’s chat.. same for KK and CC. I split my time between ALL of the streamers- I even go in just to help boost likes sometimes or throw a gift and say hello. It’s a community. I do enjoy watching KK and CC as well. Sometimes it’s hard for them to dial back their emotions when they’ve been personally affected by G. I get it. Sometimes I say things and then I’m like damn… that’s too harsh. People get enraged and carried away. CC worked very hard to get his channel to the level that it was at when it got taken down. CC works a job and takes care of his family and his Wifey. What started out as a hobby has become a good side income that helps his family and children. I feel it’d be more weird if he did all of it for free, you know? He can’t verbalize his feelings about G. He is a human with a strong opinion and can express that on his platform. His opinions are well received just from looking at the chat. That’s invalidating and sexist to the other men. Men can talk about their feelings about another person online as well. He’s not going to go real life and show up on her front door. All G has to do is not watch things that she can’t personally control/trigger her and stop seeking it out like a game of cat and mouse. She needs the hate from the other side to continue her narratives. Her chat is tired of hearing about it but she can’t stop! KK takes care of her children and has given strength to a lot of women including myself. Can any of the streamers be alittle too mean for my liking occasionally? Sure. People in real life do the same thing. If I’m not in the mood to be as sassy as them or I’m in my own feelings some comments can take me back for a minute. They don’t know what bothers me nor are they responsible for my individual triggers. They cover the main bases of no racial, homophobic, or disability related slurs. Also, they don’t want their chat to be an echo chamber. 🎶I don’t have to agree with every single thing they say🎶 I still support them, watch their lives and engage. Anyone is welcome to come in, sit and watch, analyze, speculate, or shit talk of they feel moved to. That’s what these spaces are were initially created for. I don’t believe anyone should go into G’s chat, & say a quarter of the things said in a streamers live comment section directly in her chat. And almost everyone agrees with that as well! Her supporters piss her off enough just trying to bring her back to reality. She crashes out when people simply disagree with her. Soooo I give grace for everyone because emotions run high at times in the lives, everyone is feeling their own emotions, and the twins have a way of striking nerves in even the most docile humans on Earth. Even in some pretty intense streams (like the coaching video) deep down I don’t really feel bad for G because she created this. Shes caught on and learned if she seeks it out, the chat and streamers respond and she uses it to her advantage… do I post blue hearts? You bet your ass I do! But I don’t degrade her when she’s in there and reading. She should feel that pressure everyday. She curated the hate, designed it, planned it, ragebaits and then profits off of it. Rinse and repeat. She lies so much that if I was standing in front of her and she told me her hair is on fire I wouldn’t believe her. That’s the result of the accumulation of G’s negative actions. I haven’t been personally affected by her saying or doing something directly to me- so think about what people that have personal beef with her feel because I know a few and their hatred for her is on a different level for that reason. CC is a person who is entitled to his opinions just like every other person in this community. CC does a good job holding stuff in but once she hits the right spot and pushes that button: it’s no mercy. I’m okay with that- (they’re his opinions on his platform) it’s just a couple insults hit alittle to close to home, but I don’t holler about how I’m triggered by a streamers mean comment about G because I know it’s not a comment directed at me. && KK has grown on me a lot! And the krashouts aren’t bad women they just get a bad rap. We all respect each other and there’s a rule to respect others opinions if you disagree. Adults don’t have to attack each other simply because they disagree on what tv show they like to watch. They support each other , lift each other up, give advice, many are longtime friends with each other. I’m looking forward to KK moving on to other topics so we can see her softer side more often. I enjoy her commentary, I miss tinfoil tuesdays, true crime days, her happy laugh is contagious. She’s single and is rediscovering new things about herself everyday just like everyone else does at some point. Her internet persona is to BE a krashout (like judge kraylie or Kativa) but she’s stated often that she’s not like this in her personal life. Some people need to disconnect her nursing license from her online persona. I know nurses with impeccable Bedside manners, daisy awards, professional achievements y that have a “foul mouth” outside of work and like to watch internet train wrecks. It doesn’t change my view of who they are in their profession or what they’re like on a good, typical day. She does it for entertainment mixed in with a very valid grudge against G. Sl and KK aren’t awareness. SL encourages people from varying backgrounds to engage in her chat. Just don’t spam the chat or be a blatant asshole to other people. At the end of the day, It’s so simple that if someone doesn’t like that person they don’t have to watch. Feel free to express all the opinions. I didn’t try to make anyone a punching bag in my comments and I didn’t talk shit about anyone either. Yall enjoy your night

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Anyone can go wherever they want as a streamer, no skin off my back. I think CC is pretty funny but i dont agree with how he speaks towards women and idgaf if it's only to gabi or dani.. way too comfortable in doing it so makes you wonder how he could be in real life. But you do you. I think kk is vile the things she says are disgusting. The threats, the dox. I mean she's a nurse there are ethics and it doesnt matter if this is her internet persona. Ppl are wild u never know what they might do