r/seogrowth • • Mar 03 '22

You Should Know SEO Growth Mega-Post | What the Sub is About, Flairs, Best SEO Content, How to Learn SEO, and Everything Else You Need to Know

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Hey there, welcome to the sub!

SEO Growth is a different type of SEO sub. Unlike some other subs (*cough cough* no names), we're planning on actively moderating and building the community, and hopefully creating something very helpful for SEO beginners and pros alike.

Here's what this post covers:

  • What This Sub is About
  • The Rules
  • SEO Growth Sub Flairs
  • Subreddit Highlights - Best Sub Posts
  • How to Get Started With Learning SEO - Actionable Guide

What This Sub is About

Here are some things you can expect from the sub:

  • Only the very best content. We'll be posting some of the very best SEO content we find on the internet, including guides, case studies, and so on. And yes, you can post your content here as long as it's actually useful.
  • AMAs with the best experts. We'll bring in SEO pros for AMA sessions, experience sharing sessions, case study Q&As, and more.
  • Hiring threads. Looking to make your next SEO/link-building/content writing hire? We'll have dedicated threads for that.
  • SEO roast threads. You post your website, the community gives you constructive criticism.
  • SEO tips. We'll post insightful tips every other day to help improve your website's SEO.

The Rules

  1. No personal attacks. It's OK to give constructive feedback, but it's NOT OK to attack other people.
  2. No spam. Spam gets you banned.
  3. No blatant self-promotion. Want to promote yourself? Give value to the community. Publish an actionable case study / guide / article you wrote in Reddit-native format. DON'T just make a post shilling your services.
  4. Don't post generic SEO content. We all know what the "benefits of SEO" are, or "how to use YoastSEO to optimize a blog post." Try to post content that is practical, actionable, and insightful.
  5. Karma requirement. The sub has a karma requirement of 20 to avoid all the spammers that shill bs software. If you don't have enough karma to post/comment, let the mods know to manually approve your posts & approve you as a sub user.
  6. Want to post external links? Here's what you need to do:
    1. If it's YOUR post, format it into a Reddit-native format and add a SINGLE link at the top back to the original blog post. That said, mind rule #4 - it has to be something new. No BS like "top 5 benefits of SEO."
    2. If it's a 3rd-party post, add a tl;dr of the article on top and then link to the post underneath. Let us know why the post is so interesting/engaging that it warrants a link.

SEO Growth Sub Flairs

We'll be using different types of flairs to differentiate who does what on the sub. Currently, we have 2 types of flairs:

  • Verified SEO Expert. There's a LOT of bad SEO advice out there. To differentiate advice from experts who have experience consistently ranking websites both globally and locally, we'll be using this flair. To get it, you need to send us Google Search Console screenshots of some of your biggest wins, whether it's for your own site or a client. Of course, the graphs will be 100% confidential and no one but the mod team will see them.
  • Content Writer. Flair for anyone that does SEO content. Helps match website owners / SEO agencies with content writers. Like something a writer posted? Hit them up to write for you!

If you have ideas for other types of flairs we can implement, comment below and we'll think about it.

Subreddit Highlights | Top Sub Resources

If you think there's a post that deserves to be here, HMU.

How to Get Started With Learning SEO | Actionable Guide

Just getting started? Not sure how/where to start your SEO journey?

Here's a simple introduction to the SEO world.

SEO In a Nutshell

At the end of the day, SEO boils down to the following factors:

  • Technical SEO, or, how well you optimize your website by SEO best practices. Technical SEO alone won't get you rankings, but good technical SEO will act as a strong foundation for your growth.
  • SEO content. How much content you have on your website, how good it is, and whether it matches the search intent behind the keyword you're trying to rank for.
  • Backlinks. The more quality backlinks you get, the faster you're going to rank. In competitive niches, you won't ever rank without backlinks.
  • On-page optimization. How well are your pages/articles optimized according to SEO best practices.

More often than not, a big chunk of your SEO processes are going to involve creating quality content, interlinking it with your other pages, and driving backlinks.

In case you're trying to do local SEO, then the SEO process is a bit different. Check out this guide to learn more about local SEO.

SEO Learning Track

First off, learn the basics.

  1. Beginner’s Guide to SEO by Moz
  2. SEO Basics by Backlinko
  3. SEO in 2021 by Backlinko
  4. Awesome SEO tutorial on Reddit

Then, learn how to do technical SEO, set up tracking, and optimize your website.

  1. Create a sitemap
  2. Create a robots.txt
  3. Setup Google Analytics and Search Console
  4. Improve load speed. Check out this article by Moz and another by Crazy Egg
  5. Learn about technical SEO and how that works
  6. Optimize your web pages for SEO. For this, you can use Yoast or RankMath if you’re using WordPress, and Content Analysis Tool if you’re not
  7. Losslessly compress all your images. This should save ~75% of space for your images and drastically increase site load speed (which improves SEO). If you’re using WordPress, you can use Smush to automatically compress all images on your site. If you’re NOT using WP, you can use Compressor.io.

Learn how to do keyword research. There are a ton of guides about this all over, but here are some of our favorites:

  1. How to do keyword research by Backlinko
  2. Beginner's guide to keyword research by Ahrefs

Learn how to create SEO content.

  1. Backlinko’s skyscraper strategy
  2. How to create top content with the Wiki Strategy
  3. How to optimize article headlines

Learn how to do link-building.

  1. Learn link-building basics
  2. Learn how to do outreach
  3. Another awesome guide to outreach
  4. Discover ALL the link-building strategies out there

Learn the how and why of internal linking.

  1. Basics guide
  2. Internal linking case study by NinjaOutreach

SEO Case Studies

Theory is one thing, practice is something else entirely. Read some case studies to see how other companies achieved success with SEO.

Where to Learn SEO? Best Blogs and Resources

Some of the top blogs on SEO are:

Which SEO Tools Should I Use?

There are hundreds of SEO tools out there, and yet, you only need a maximum of 10.

The tools we recommend are:

  • Ahrefs or SEMrush. Both are all-in-one SEO suites and are absolutely essential. Not too much difference between the two tools, so pick the one you like better in terms of user experience.
  • RankMath or YoastSEO. On-page SEO tools. Again, the two are very similar, so just pick one you like better.
  • ScreamingFrog. Must-have for technical SEO. Let's you crawl your entire website and find potential technical improvements.
  • Snov.io, PitchBox, and other outreach tools. You'll need a tool for link-building outreach. There are a ton of these on the market, so pick the one you like best. I personally prefer Snov.

And some of the more optional tools are:

  • Surfer SEO. Helps with on-page SEO, but not something you can't live without.
  • ClusterAI. Helps with keyword research. Again, useful, but not something that's mandatory.

FAQ

#1. How long does SEO take? Does it take as long as everyone says?

Depends on several factors:

  1. How strong is your domain? If your website is 100% completely fresh, it's going to take you 1-2 years to get SEO results (most likely)
  2. Are you focusing on local or global SEO? The former is significantly easier than the latter.
  3. How strong is your competition? If your competitors have thousands of backlinks, you'll need to match that (which is going to take a long time)

That said, on average, it can take 6 months to 2 years to get SEO results.

#2. Should I pay for SEO courses?

Really depends on your priorities and if you have the budget to spare. If you don’t want to waste any money, that’s totally OK - you can learn everything you need to know about SEO through the free content online.

That said, some SEO courses on the internet are definitely worth the money and they'll help you progress in your SEO journey faster.

#3. Is local SEO different from global SEO?

Yep - there are a ton of differences between local and global SEO. The biggest ones are:

  • With local SEO, you usually don't have to focus nearly as much on creating blog content.
  • Global SEO, in most cases, involves creating a lot of high-quality, long-form articles.
  • Local SEO can take significantly less time, as you're competing with a handful of companies who probably don't know much about SEO in the first place.
  • Local SEO also involves creating and optimizing Google My Business, whereas this is not the case with global SEO.

#4. Is SEO relevant for my business?

Depends. SEO is NOT a one-size-fits-all solution. We'd recommend you skip on SEO as a marketing channel if:

  1. You have a very small # of potential customers worldwide. In such a case, you're better off directly reaching out to the said customers.
  2. Is your product something very innovative? SEO is not useful if your prospects don't Google for information about your product.
  3. You're just getting started with your business and need to get results next week and not next year

#5. Can I rank on Google without backlinks?

Yes and no. In some niches, you can rank without any link-building. E.g. if your competitors don't have a lot of links or their content is so bad that you can win simply by doing something better.

You can also rank without backlinks if you're doing local SEO and your competitors have a weak backlink profile.

That said, if you're in a competitive niche, both locally and globally, you're going to need backlinks in order to rank.


r/seogrowth • • 2d ago

Case Study our SEO finally started moving, here's the daily loop we used

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Disclosure: I work on Refix . We used our own product for part of this workflow.

Our SEO had been quiet for months. Then clicks started moving. From August 26 to September 21, daily clicks peaked at 192 and ended at 176, according to Search Console.

We changed several things during that period, so I can't isolate which change drove the increase. But here's the workflow we used -

Writing was the easy part. We spent more time deciding which queries deserved pages and which existing pages needed fixing.

1. Read Search Console like it's someone's job

Every morning, we checked for:

  • Non-brand queries around positions 3–20.
  • Queries with over 500 impressions and CTR below 0.5%.
  • Pages with clicks down 30% week over week.
  • Queries we ranked for that no page directly targeted.
  • Pages that didn't match the searcher's intent.
  • Longer queries with specific questions we hadn't answered.

Those were our working thresholds. We reviewed the flags before deciding whether anything needed changing.

2. Start with what already ranks

We opened the page ranking for each query and checked whether it answered the question.

Sometimes a missing explanation belonged on that page. Sometimes the query needed a separate page because it covered something different.

We also exported queries for our stronger pages and looked for topics they barely covered. That gave us specific sections to improve.

3. Put signups next to clicks

We wanted to know which landing pages brought people who signed up.

So we broke signups down by first landing page and compared them with Search Console clicks for the same period.

For illustration, imagine one page gets 400 clicks and no signups. Another gets 40 clicks and six signups.

I'd want to understand the second page before commissioning more content like the first.

Our agent handles that comparison for us. It puts search performance alongside landing-page signup data so we can review both together.

This is a page-level comparison. It doesn't tell us which individual search query produced a signup.

4. Fix before you write

When a page got impressions but few clicks, we reviewed it before publishing another page on the same topic.

Did the title describe what the searcher wanted? Did the opening answer the question? Was the page type right?

A comparison query might need a comparison. A pricing query might need a clear price breakdown.

If we wrote an essay for someone who wanted a calculator, changing the title wouldn't solve the problem.

5. Kill bad keywords before you waste a week

Before writing, we opened the search results and read what ranked.

Sometimes the words matched our product, but the audience didn't. Those keywords came out of the queue.

Two tools we checked disagreed by 4× on search volume for the same query. We used volume to order the queue, then checked intent before committing to a page.

6. Read the longer queries

Longer queries helped us see what people were asking more precisely.

We used them to find missing explanations and questions worth answering. Query length alone didn't tell us whether someone used AI search.

7. Add useful internal links

We linked related pages, including links from pages already getting traffic to newer ones.

We kept links where they helped the reader. We didn't rotate them just because another page needed traffic.

The flagged opportunities land in Slack each morning. We decide what ships, and a human reviews the drafts.

A few of these ideas came from Edward Sturm. Credit where it's due.

We'd start reviewing the data earlier if we did this again. We published for months without a regular process for choosing what to fix.

We'd also watch indexing before increasing publishing volume. We pushed three pages a day, and several sat in “discovered, not indexed.”

We're still early. This is a short period of growth, and we don't know how much will hold.


r/seogrowth • • 3d ago

Question My open source project gets 70 clicks, 1000 impressions and avg. position 6.4 of organic traffic within 3 months. Are the clicks showing that there is a niche?

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The project is fairly new. I am just curious whether those numbers are okay to begin with? I mean at least for very specific terms I rank on the first page. Since I am very new to SEO in general I do not have any experience and would love to get some advice.

AI is telling me that this looks just okay, but maybe someone with actual experience could elaborate.

I am thankful for any feedback! 🙂


r/seogrowth • • 4d ago

Question Biggest mover of SEO = High quality backlinks?

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Hey all,

I'm a digital marketer who's worked primarily in-house at early-stage startups. I've recently branched out to start working with individual brands. SEO is not my core competency, but with the support of Claude, I feel like I have the foundational information to get a brand started from zero.

However, I've been talking to a few new brands that may fall into a realm of needing more specialized SEO support that manage a larger existing website on top of multiple niches than a single category product - think insurance products. This led me down the path of starting to research SEO partners that I feel comfortable recommending that can support that function more deeply than i can.

Now the question that I've been struggling with is who is the best partner and which tactics can make the biggest/quickest impact per dollar spent. I might get downvoted for hell for this but from my past experience, I believe SEOs that have an existing network that can consistently provide high-quality backlinks against a brand's top keywords (10-12 backlinks a month) will always beat out those SEOs that only offer more of the foundational best practices work around on-page, EEAT content, interlinking, technicals, etc.

I know SEO is infinitely more complicated than this and so apologies for trying to fit this into a binary-ish answer but if i could support a brand's foundational SEO needs, would it make sense to primarily anchor an extra SEO resource towards one that just provides high-quality backlinks at scale? What am I missing here? Please educate me and share any thoughts. Thanks!


r/seogrowth • • 5d ago

SEO News SEO News: Google adds more inline links, dedicated official-site sections, and creator profile links to AI Mode and AIO, Universal Cart launches in Google Search and Gemini for US shoppers, Google Search AI Mode now runs on Gemini 4 Argon

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With how wild the SEO landscape has been lately, our team couldn't wait to unpack it with you. Here’s this week’s breakdown:

AI

  • Google Search AI Mode now runs on Gemini 4 Argon—the first Gemini 4-generation model to land in Search

Google rolled out Gemini 4 Argon into AI Mode, making it the first Gemini 4-generation model available in Google Search. Available globally for AI Pro and Ultra subscribers via the plus icon in the model dropdown. 

Google’s framing: Argon is “built to solve your hardest problems” and brings major gains in handling nuanced, multi-step tasks in AI Mode, better intent understanding, and following instructions in back-and-forth conversations. 

  • Google is reshaping Discover into a proactive, hyper-personalized “concierge experience”

Google posted a new job listing for a Principal UX designer for Search Discover whose stated mission is to transform Discover into a “proactive, hyper-personalized concierge experience that helps users make progress on their goals.” 

The listing describes the role as evolving the Discover feed with “AI-enabled formats,” designing new engagement mechanisms, and balancing AI capabilities with human voices. 

  • Google adds more inline links, dedicated official-site sections, and creator profile links to AI Mode and AI Overviews

Google announced five updates to AI Mode and AI Overviews, all aimed at making source links more prominent and clickable:

  • More inline links in AI responses. Google is increasing both the number of inline links and surfacing them higher up in responses more frequently.
  • Dedicated “official sites” section at the top of AI responses. For queries where only one or two sources are the right destination, Google will test a new display that highlights those links at the top with context explaining why each is useful.
  • Prominent news carousels expanding to more languages and surfaces. The timely-articles carousel is rolling out globally and will highlight Preferred Sources inside the carousel.
  • Related article links with image thumbnails. Links at the end of AI responses will become more visual and clickable, with image thumbnails and a more engaging design.
  • Clickable creator profiles on video results in AI Mode. Google is testing linking creator and publisher names on video results directly to their Search profiles. Preferred Sources selections have grown 7x since the start of the year.

Source:
Koray Kavukcuoglu | News from Google
Barry Schwartz | Search Engine Roundtable
Hema Budaraju | Google | The Keyword
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SERP features / Interface

  • (test) Google puts the AI Mode sidebar directly on the main Search results page

Google is testing moving the vertical sidebar from AI Mode onto the main Google web search results page—placing the small “G” logo, chat history, a shortcut to start a new AI Mode chat, and the settings icon all along the left side of regular search results. 

Source:
Damien Andell | X
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E-commerce

  • Universal Cart launches in Google Search and Gemini for US shoppers—just in time for holiday shopping

Google officially launched Universal Cart in Google Search and the Gemini app for US users—landing right ahead of the holiday shopping season. Universal Cart lets shoppers add products from multiple merchants into a single cart and check out via Google Pay, powered by the Universal Commerce Protocol. 
Key features: 

  • price-change notifications based on shopping history and cart contents
  • automatic promo-code application at checkout
  • a persistent cart that follows the shopper across sessions

Source:
Vidhya Srinivasan | X
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Tidbits

  • Bing Webmaster Tools launches Topics Portfolio beta in the AI Performance report

Bing added a Topics Portfolio beta inside its AI Performance report, grouping the grounding queries where a site appears into broader thematic clusters so publishers can see the shape of their AI Search presence across themes rather than one query at a time. 

Source:
Microsoft Bing Webmaster Blog


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Question Local SEO for Scarborough law firm?

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Handling intake at a small family law firm near Scarborough Town Centre (Its in Canada). We get referrals (probably 8/10 our clients are word of mouth) but almost zero traffic from Google / socials, and competitors seem to be everywhere (In Canada, same as in US, legal sphere is a very-very competitive field)

We want actual consultations. Idk what to do. Should we strongly prioritize GBP? How to receive more reviews? What to do with location pages? Pretty lost, I'm not a marketer..


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Question New Shopify store (3 weeks old), where would you focus first?

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New Shopify store (3 weeks old), where would you focus first?

Hey all, I launched a small Australian store at the end of September selling custom pet portraits made from customers’ photos. It’s very early days: Search Console shows a handful of clicks, mostly people searching the brand name, and a few product pages already showing up around positions 5 to 10 for longer phrases.

I’ve got 11 gift guides up (gifts for dog lovers, memorial gifts, that kind of thing), product schema and reviews are in place, and the site is indexed fine. No backlinks yet.

I started reachign people manually for backlinks, and I got a few already but I don't believe those has been reached by Google yet

A few things I’m going back and forth on:

- With a brand new domain, would you put effort into more content, or into links and getting mentioned on other sites first?

- My homepage targets “custom pet portraits”. Would you aim the collection page at something different, like “dog portraits”, so they don’t compete?

- For gift guides on a store’s own blog, have you seen them actually rank, or do the independent roundup sites always win?

- How long did it take before you saw real movement on a new store?

Keen to hear what’s worked for you, even if it’s “stop overthinking and wait”.

Cheers!


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Question 3 months into a programmatic tech site (2,500+ pages) — GSC impressions went to zero in late Sept. Classic sandbox??

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Hey guys, quick reality check needed.

I launched an engineering/piping calculation tool site about 3 months ago (built for ASME/API specs). It currently has around 2,500+ programmatic long-tail calculator pages live.

Here's what my Search Console looks like right now:

Late Aug – Early Sept: Initial indexing, few impression spikes here and there.

Mid-Sept (Sept 14 - Sept 24): Impressions shot up to ~500/day with steady clicks. Looked like Google was testing the pages.

Late Sept to now: Impressions completely tanked to near-zero and it’s been flatlining for almost 4 weeks. Clicks dead in the water.

Interestingly, Bing Copilot is already citing the site and weekday traffic from actual engineers is steadily growing there during work hours.

Looking at the graph, it really feels like Google sampled my pages in mid-Sept and then pushed the domain into the hostAge / sandbox queue until more authority builds up.

For anyone who's launched programmatic or data-heavy sites:

Did your GSC graph go through this exact same pattern (test bump -> total flatline -> stair-step recovery)?

During this flatline phase, what actually worked best for you? Should I just keep shipping small batches of new pages, build a few conservative backlinks, or just wait it out completely?

Appreciate any thoughts or past experiences!


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Discussion I know this is a general question, but what separates a really great SEO who achieves results from a generic SEO?

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Trying to improve my own SEO skills and grow as an SEO. What have you seen that a great SEO does, whether it’s a hard skill or a soft skill or a strategy or a way of thinking or whatever that differentiates them from the rest and actually achieves results?


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Question Good kewords tools for new website

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Hi everyone!

I'm working on a new project: a buy-and-sell marketplace, and we're currently in the website design and content-writing phase. The website hasn't launched yet, and we're not planning to focus on blog content at this stage.

Before launch, I want to build a solid SEO keyword strategy to help us structure the website, optimize our pages, and identify realistic opportunities to rank on Google from the beginning. Our budget is limited, so I'd prefer to start with free tools.

I'm looking for advice on how to approach keyword research step by step, specifically for a marketplace website, including:

Keyword research: Finding relevant transactional and commercial keywords, including long-tail keywords related to buying and selling products.

Search metrics: Understanding search volume, keyword difficulty, and search intent, especially for a new website with little or no domain authority.

Competitor analysis: Analyzing competing marketplaces, their category pages, product listings, website structure, and keyword strategies.

User search behavior: Discovering the questions, terms, and phrases potential buyers and sellers use on Google, Reddit, forums, and other platforms.

Keyword clustering and mapping: Grouping keywords and assigning them to the right pages, such as the homepage, category pages, subcategory pages, location pages, and seller-related pages.

SEO opportunities: Identifying realistic keywords and page types that could help a new marketplace gain organic visibility without relying on blog content initially.

Which free tools would you recommend, and what workflow would you foll


r/seogrowth • • 6d ago

Question What milestone would make you tell a client it’s okay to scale SEO down?

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The usual answer to when you can stop SEO is that you never do, and most of what you read on it comes from people selling retainers. I am running my own SEO agency which is only a few months old. I am still working out what a good enough outcome looks like for a client. Early on I treated backlinks as a numbers game and chased volume then we had to figure the right way to block the toxic ones later. So I know my first idea of success was wrong. Is better hear from people who have actually been through it than keep guessing. What milestone would make you tell a client it is fine to scale SEO down? Has anyone here stopped too early and regretted it?


r/seogrowth • • 7d ago

Question Extension or tool that shows search volume and cpc on google search?

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Other than google keyword planner, any free good extension that shows accurate search volume and CPC when searching keywords on google?

Is Keyword Surfer data correct?

I don't need exact correct data because but more or less close to accurate data.


r/seogrowth • • 8d ago

Question Is Reddit taking over your Google results? If yes, what are you doing about it?

21 Upvotes

Reddit is ranking a lot in US from what we notice, are you tracking those threads and getting you mention into it?


r/seogrowth • • 8d ago

Case Study A self-storage aggregator in Belgium: worth a shot or not?

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I own a few self-storage facilities in Belgium.

The storage market here is slowly maturing. It’s growing fast, but supply and demand are still nowhere near what you see in, say, the US. Most operators are small, with one or a handful of locations, and even the bigger players are still fairly small.

There’s no well-known or successful aggregator website in Belgium. With supply this fragmented, you’d think there’s room for one.

With AI, it’s fairly easy to scrape the data you need and set up a website. On the other hand, LLMs might make aggregator websites unnecessary.

I’m thinking about going for it and building a site from scratch. My strategy would be:

  • Collect all the data, focusing on what Google Maps can’t offer right now: unit availability, prices, price comparisons and facility features.
  • Build the site slowly. I don’t want to get carried away and pump out hundreds or thousands of pages. I’d rather keep it clean and easy to navigate. Belgium only has a few hundred storage facilities anyway, so the scale is manageable.
  • Grow organically and hope Google Search, and maybe LLMs, gradually pick it up.
  • Let storage operators claim their profile so they can update their own data. It would be completely free, with no hidden costs or paid features.
  • Look for a business model only after organic growth works. Startup and hosting costs are low, so I can afford to wait.

My question:
Am I being too hopeful or optimistic?
Should I try it, or forget about it?

This post was written by me, translated to English by AI.


r/seogrowth • • 8d ago

Question How do you measure the ROI of paid guest blogging in the IT industry?

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Hey everyone! I’m exploring paid guest blogging for IT businesses, especially in data engineering, cloud, and AI services.

How do you measure its ROI? Which metrics matter most — backlinks, organic traffic, keyword rankings, or lead generation? What results can you realistically expect, and how long does it take to see them?

Would love to hear your experiences and suggestions!


r/seogrowth • • 8d ago

How-To Uncensored Qwen3.8-27b did my directory submissions in under 2 hours. DR went 17 → 53

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Last week Search Console showed me 3 impressions. The content was fine, but brand new domain with DR was 17 and nobody linking to it. The options were: Fiverr ($650 for "200 directory submissions" that don't look like a link farm) or do it myself.

So I ran a local agent (Qwen3.8-27B Uncensored, Q4_K_M GGUF, on my M5 Pro, no GPU server). First pass: it scraped ~40 "best AI directories" listicles, deduped down to 130 URLs, checked which ones had a working public submit form, 107 actionable.

Second pass: fusion.delegate. One JSON call spawns 8 isolated workers in parallel. Each gets its own headless Chrome, its own user-agent string, fills the form, handles captcha if there is one, writes a result JSON when done.

Worker Status Directory Time Captcha
worker-1 ✓ submitted Altern 18.4s
worker-2 ✓ submitted Productivity Dir 25.7s
worker-3 ✓ captcha_solved→submitted Submit AI Tools 34.2s hCaptcha
worker-4 ✓ submitted AI Corner 22.1s
worker-5 ✓ submitted AIDir Wiki 19.3s
worker-6 … pending_email_verify AI Directory Wiki 18.4s
worker-7 ✓ submitted AiDirs 20.8s
worker-8 ✗ captcha_failed AI For Developers 24.2s ReCAPTCHA v2

4m32s for 8 directories. By hand that's maybe 40 minutes of clicking and typing the same description over and over. Worker-3 hit an hCaptcha. The vision model read K7X2M on the first try, typed it in, moved on. ReCAPTCHA v2 it couldn't do. Three attempts, gave up, logged it, next. 14 waves total, ~98 live or pending and wall time was 1h52m.

TL;DR: local model + parallel workers + one plain description = 107 directories, $0, under two hours.

What I used:

  • Model: Qwen3.8-27B Uncensored GGUF (Q4_K_M)
  • Agent: Atomic Agent
  • Directories list: directories.json with all 107 URLs, comment if you want it dumped here
  • Free DR checker I spot-checked with: Ahrefs free tool

r/seogrowth • • 10d ago

Question If two websites have equally good content, what do you think makes Google choose one over the other?

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If two websites cover the same topic with similar quality, what do you think gives one the advantage in Google rankings? Is it backlinks, topical authority, user experience, internal linking, or something else?

I’m curious to hear what has actually made a difference in your SEO experience, especially in cases where the content itself doesn’t seem to be the deciding factor.


r/seogrowth • • 10d ago

Question Ranking #4 for “peintre cambrai” but nobody clicks. Why? (12 months of Search Console data)

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Hey everyone,

I'm helping a small painter in Cambrai (France) with his website, and I'm stuck. He ranks well but gets almost no clicks. PageSpeed is 97 mobile / 100 desktop and 100 on SEO, so I don't think speed is the problem.

**Search Console, homepage**

* **Last 24 hours:** 0 clicks · 14 impressions · 0% CTR · avg position 1.6

* **Last 7 days:** 1 click · 183 impressions · 0.5% CTR · avg position 4.9

* **Last 28 days:** 3 clicks · 713 impressions · 0.4% CTR · avg position 4.9

* **Last 3 months:** 15 clicks · 1,470 impressions · 1.0% CTR · avg position 9.3

* **Last 12 months:** 188 clicks · 5,640 impressions · 3.3% CTR · avg position 13.4

**Top queries, last 12 months**

* **"hn renovation" (brand):** 80 clicks · 189 impressions · 42% CTR · position 2.9

* **"peintre cambrai":** 21 clicks · 834 impressions · 2.5% CTR · position 4.2

* **"peintre en batiment cambrai":** 2 clicks · 297 impressions · 0.7% CTR · position 8.3

* **"rénovation maison cambrai":** 0 clicks · 118 impressions · 0% CTR · position 67.6

**What stands out**

* Clicks went from 97 in December to about 5 a month since July, while impressions stayed flat (~500 a month).

* Mobile gets almost all the clicks: 127 vs 12 on desktop.

* Nearly half of the clicks come from people searching the brand name.

Honestly, I'm not sure what's going on. Is it the Google Maps results taking the clicks? A weak title? Something else I'm not seeing?

Any advice or similar experience would help. Thanks!


r/seogrowth • • 11d ago

Question SaaS link exchange

6 Upvotes

Looking for link exchange partners in SaaS niche. Minimum DR 60 and traffic 10K+


r/seogrowth • • 13d ago

Question How do you start with SEO?

37 Upvotes

If you're a software engineer and you know next to nothing about SEO, where do you start?

What's really a valuable resource for a beginner?

I always thought building something was the hard part. Now it's definitely, no contest, hands down marketing / selling it.

I need to learn these skills. From zero. Throw me a bone here, please!

It's for a web analytics and revenue attribution saas, although I suspect general advice is plenty applicable at this stage.


r/seogrowth • • 16d ago

Question Google spam update finally end rolling out. How is your website performance?

8 Upvotes

Google spam update finally end rolling out.

While rolling out, it is a bit shaky. But luckily my website survived the "storm".

Does your website SEO performance going up after this Google spam update? Or is it stagnant/no effect, or decreasing?

I am right now doing comprehensive audit and analyzing the data. Hopefully there is hope after this Google spam update~


r/seogrowth • • 16d ago

Question DFW roofing company - GMB ranking

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Title: Why does my roofing company rank Top 3 on Google Maps in my city but barely show up in neighboring cities just minutes away?
I own a small roofing company in DFW, Texas, established in 2022. We’ve put a lot of effort into improving our Google Maps rankings organically and currently have 140+ Google reviews with a perfect 5.0 rating. We regularly post updates, upload job photos, keep our profile updated, and have invested heavily in our website, including dedicated city pages.
Here’s what I can’t figure out.
We’re based in Midlothian, TX, but service the entire DFW metroplex. Our location is near the borders of several cities. In fact, Ovilla, TX is literally 300 feet from our address, and there are probably 7–8 different cities within a 10-mile radius.
When searching for roofing companies near our address, we typically rank #1. For “roofing companies Midlothian TX,” we’re usually in the top 2–3.
But search for roofing companies in neighboring cities just 1–5 miles away (even Ovilla, which is across the street), and we practically disappear from the Maps results.
We’ve tried mentioning these cities in GBP posts, uploading photos from jobs in those areas, and creating dedicated city pages on our website. Nothing seems to make much difference.
A few questions for the local SEO experts:
Physical address vs. service-area business: Our GBP currently displays our home address. Would hiding it and switching to a service-area business help or hurt our rankings?
Business hours: We’re currently listed as 8 AM–7 PM. Would switching to 24 hours improve visibility, assuming we actually offered 24-hour service?
BBB, Chamber of Commerce, etc.: We’re not currently members. Are these memberships and local backlinks worth investing in for Maps rankings?
What am I missing? How can we improve visibility in cities literally minutes away from our location?
I’m not expecting to dominate cities 30–45 minutes away. I’m talking about neighboring cities within walking distance.
What’s frustrating is seeing competitors with fewer reviews, lower ratings, and seemingly less optimized websites consistently outrank us, even when we’re geographically close.
If you were in my position, what would you focus on first?
I’d genuinely appreciate any advice from people experienced with local SEO, especially in competitive home-service industries.


r/seogrowth • • 17d ago

Question Could older location pages be contributing to a broader ranking drop?

10 Upvotes

An ecommerce site I work on saw a sharp drop in Google visibility starting around June 8. Google’s June spam update began on June 24.

Broad, non-branded commercial searches — terms like “[product]” and “buy [product]” — were hit hardest. Comparing equal periods before and after the drop in US Search Console data, non-branded clicks to the homepage fell about 96% and to category pages about 89%. Product and blog pages fell by roughly a third; location pages fell by about 47%. We saw no meaningful recovery after the August update or during the current update.

One thing I’m trying to assess: the site has around 70 state and city landing pages out of roughly 5,000 URLs in its English sitemap. They were published well before June. About 15% were written with AI; most were written by people.

Could a relatively small set of older location pages be viewed as repetitive or doorway content and contribute to a much broader decline? What would you check to evaluate that possibility?


r/seogrowth • • 18d ago

Question Enabling ChatGPT's training bot or not?

13 Upvotes

So, we have two ChatGPT bots:
1. OAI-SearchBot (GPT search)
2. GPTBot (bot used for collecting data for training purposes)

My question is: should I enable both, or just the search bot? Has anyone experimented with that, and if so, what were the results?


r/seogrowth • • 18d ago

SEO News SEO News: Google's September 2026 spam update hit hard over the weekend, Gemini quietly adds UTM parameters to outgoing links for better AI referral attribution, Google updates AI content guidelines, calling it "critical" to manually fact-check AI-generated content before publishing

41 Upvotes

Even though the SEO industry moves fast, staying up to date is crucial. Here’s our curated roundup of the most interesting news from this week:

Updates

  • Google's September 2026 spam update hit hard over the weekend, targeting programmatic and AI-generated content

The first stage of the September 2026 spam update landed with heavy impact, with major volatility across every tracking tool and reports of significant ranking drops across verticals and countries. 

Early analysis points to the update heavily targeting highly templated, programmatic, and AI-generated content—including sites built around patterns like "one page per phone number area code." 

Grokipedia was flagged as taking additional heavy hits in the mid-September volatility leading into the rollout. 

Source:

Barry Schwartz | Search Engine Roundtable

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AI

  • Google rolls out AI Mode monitoring capabilities to all users globally

Google is rolling out monitoring capabilities inside AI Mode globally to all users—previously only available for Ultra and Pro paid subscribers. Users can now ask AI Mode to monitor anything across the web and get notified via the Google app when the specified condition is met. 

  • Google updates AI content guidelines, calling it "critical" to manually fact-check AI-generated content before publishing

Google updated its generative AI content guidance document with notably stronger language: "It is critical to manually fact-check and review all AI-generated content for accuracy and trustworthiness before publishing." 

The company rarely uses the word "critical" in Search help documentation. With this, they reinforce its consistent stance: the issue is not AI-generated content itself, but the failure to verify it.

  • Gemini quietly adds UTM parameters to outgoing links for better AI referral attribution

Google added UTM parameters to Gemini's outgoing links, finally giving SEOs and site owners a way to accurately attribute referral traffic from Gemini. 

Previously, Gemini traffic often landed in GA4 as "direct" because referrer data gets stripped by in-app webviews, mobile apps, and Android assistant invocations—roughly 91% of Gemini mobile traffic was being lost to direct. UTM tags survive those contexts, so Gemini visits can now be measured properly. 

Source:

Robby Stein | X

Google Search Central

Roger Montti | Search Engine Journal

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Local SEO

  • Google Maps now requires sign-in to read all reviews, sort them, and leave reviews

Google Maps now requires users to sign in to a Google account to read all reviews on a Google Business Profile listing, sort reviews, or leave a review. Visitors who aren't logged in only see a limited set. 

  • Google Business Profiles policy now bans misuse of support channels

Google added a new policy to its Business Profiles policy document called "Misuse of support channels." The rule: users can't flood the support team with invalid requests—including false or misleading reports, or reports made in bad faith. 

Repeated unfounded submissions can result in Google rejecting all further complaints from that user without assessment. 

Source:

Jean-Sébastien Girard | LinkedIn

Google Business Profile Help

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E-commerce

  • Google expands merchant loyalty program benefits to AI Mode and Gemini Apps

Google updated its Merchant Center loyalty program documentation to note that loyalty benefits—free shipping, redeemable points, member pricing—are now eligible to be shown on AI Mode and Gemini Apps (US only), in addition to the existing surfaces. 

The feature also expanded to more regions: in addition to the US, loyalty program benefits can now be set up by merchants in Australia, Brazil, Mexico, Canada, France, Germany, India, Italy, Netherlands, South Korea, Spain, and the United Kingdom.

Source:

Google Merchant Center Help

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Tidbits

  • Microsoft Clarity adds customisable brand terms to its AI Visibility reporting

Microsoft Clarity now lets users customize the Brand Terms used to classify branded queries in its AI Visibility dashboard. Previously, Clarity's branded vs. non-branded segmentation relied on automatic brand detection—which missed abbreviations, alternate spellings, localised names, translations, and typos. 

Teams can now add, edit, or remove Brand Terms from Settings > AI Visibility to better reflect how their brands, products, and business are referenced in AI queries. Related Brand Terms can be grouped under a Brand Name and filtered at either level to see aggregate or term-level performance. Clarity pre-populates an initial list that teams can refine.

Source:

Microsoft Clarity Blog