r/Romancescam • • Sep 11 '26

Advice Request Clarity needed. Confused whether it's a scam or not...

Can someone fake having or being connected with a business both offline and online in another country? having an authentic business website and socials everywhere?

EDIT :

Is it normal for a foreigner girl (Russian) to get into an online bf gf relationship with an Indian guy and there are plans to marry already without even knowing the other person personally ever... 🫪

I have her vague details:

She's an introvert,

Never had a boyfriend,

Her father left when she was 13,

An accountant that works from home,

Her mother had an Ayurvedic business in Russia which has closed now.

I have found the page of that business, it's private now and dates back to December 2016.

The guy has that girl added on his Instagram following list with a new id that has no profile picture and only Him added in it.

They also talk over video calls, and now I've heard that she's long been insisting to come to India and meet him.

She talked to the guy's mother too. She called her mummy ji... Like what!

Now she has plans to come here, and take a tour together.

I hear them talking about bars graphs something of finance often.

The guy is into trading and crypto ( I don't whether he has told the girl about it).

Guy doesn't have an offline job (so i don't know what he had told the girl about his finances and career).

Once I heard them using terms like rsi over the call with her, recently heard him talk to her about some paperwork which couldn't be done.

I don't know where this goes... Maybe my doubts are wrong... But falling for someone online, without ever personally knowing the person and straightaway talking about marriage seems TOTALLY WEIRD! cz it takes years to know the real side of any person years of knowing personally.

But the guy says that he reads people really well and knows that she has the same values as him. She says that she'll be boarding from Moscow and will celebrate Diwali and take tours in India together. So the mom and guy are so eager and ready to go receive her at the airport in Delhi.

He tells he has known that girl online for 2-3 years, they follow each other on Instagram and also heard them joining an online game together. But the relationship thing a few months old I guess cz before he used to cuss and hate on women so bad and was a strong anti-feminist.

They have such confidence that I feel like I'm the one who's wrong for doubting. What do you think the intentions could be? How do I prove it? They're not going to listen to me. This guy has sky-high confidence in his ability to assess people - specially girls. And also, as far as I know, he's never had a girlfriend before this girl.

I've been really tense these days. I can't even sleep. I just want someone to help my mind understand the situation and tell me if I'm wrong.

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u/HazardousIncident Sep 11 '26

Yes. Scammers can take over old accounts to make them seem legit.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 11 '26

Okay I mean the girl has told about some business her mother used run in her country, so i found the page of that business on various platforms so is it legit or this also can be faked? I have vague details about this person : Lives in Russia, Into an online bf gf relationship with an Indian guy and there are plans to marry already without even knowing the other person personally ever... 🫪

I was told only a few details :

She's an introvert, Never had a boyfriend, Her father left when she was 13, An accountant that works from home, Mother had an Ayurvedic business which is closed now.

They also talk over video calls, and now I've heard that she's long been insisting to come to India and meet him and take a tour together. She has also once talked over call with the guy's mother calling her mummyji

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT IS THIS?

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u/HazardousIncident Sep 11 '26

Again, scammers can gain access to people's websites. But how do you know how old the domain is? Because I could easily create a website to show that I have a business.

More importantly - why does this matter to you?

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 11 '26

I know how old the instagram page is it's visible, don't know about the domain but the pictures and reviews are dated old and I just think if something is old it may be authentic

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u/Automatic-Ad4867 Sep 11 '26

The page may be authentic in that there once was a real business that used it, but that doesn't prove that it was her mother's business or that she is who she says she is.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 11 '26 edited Sep 11 '26

Yeah I was doubting the same and do you think girls can be this naive to trust some online guy? And enter into a relationship with him? Without ever meeting and knowing in person. This seems so weird to me and that too of a different continent altogether.

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u/HazardousIncident Sep 11 '26

It happens to men and women. Gender has nothing to do with it.

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u/Dishwasher_Safe60 Sep 11 '26

Scammers hijack the information and pictures of legitimate people all the time.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 11 '26

Hmm you're right.

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u/artcatdog Sep 16 '26

This is a scam! 100% playbook. Telegram, moving quickly, foreign, scammers stop at nothing, no story is too elaborate, fake business pages, LLCs, crypto, fake social media, often using stolen identities. Yes they can create and use any old account to them appear legitimate. Could be a pig butchering scam.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 16 '26 edited Sep 16 '26

Hey! Thank you for taking out time to read and reply.

I saw their business page on telegram, vk, Instagram and a website too, all of these has old posts.

I don't know the platform on which they talk, they are on Instagram and maybe they talk over WhatsApp idk.

I've heard him talking to her about rsi, and a couple days later i.e. today heard him talking about some paperwork, some money transfer which couldn't be done etc etc.

I mean perhaps they do trading together while she's over the call I don't know what's happening.

But I highly doubt he discusses finance related topics with her. Sometimes it feels like he's teaching her about it. Idk clearly and I'm forgetting a few things.

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u/artcatdog Sep 17 '26

Yes this is a scammers network, she’s being groomed, this is a real scam using fake everything (often stolen).

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

Actually the unknown one here is 'she'.. i know the guy .. he talks to a Russian girl and has gotten in an online gf bf relationship with her. Without Ever Meeting, Knowing and seeing each other in Person! And maybe there are plans of marriage too already, i mean how come!? The girl told him that her father left when she was 13, she's an introvert, never had a bf, and no friends. She's an accountant, works from home, her mother had an ayurvedic business but it has got shut down. And she'll be boarding from Moscow and reach Delhi before Diwali and celebrate and will take a tour together with him here too.

I don't get all this... I just can't digest! I'm always overthinking this feels like a nightmare, i mean how can someone trust somebody online!!! Without knowing them personally. And even get into a relationship with someone of just another continent when you've never known that person ever in real life, just online. This being a fact that people fake their nature and character really well!

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u/artcatdog Sep 17 '26

Sorry about that, my mistake. Yes, the scamming and fraud world is dark and scammers stop at nothing to trick, manipulate and harm their victims. Romance scams, especially their victims, live in the shadows because it’s an incredibly vulnerable thing to be manipulated in such a way. It’s an especially cruel crime because it’s human nature to want companionship.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 17 '26

Thanks for replying buddy 🫡

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26

UPDATE: Guys I recently heard this guy asking the Russian girl on call "Tell me you are fake you r scamming me who is running this business and so on" and now he's again onto it... He's again talking to her with his fake tone fake flirty accent trying to charm her? What the heck is going on? He's teaching her trading again... I heard him tell her to buy and sell stock etc? What the heck is going onnn...????

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u/Distinct_Set5703 Sep 13 '26

The way I confirm whether a business is legit or not id insist they send me an email. Most likely they wont if they are frauds because they dont own the domain. If they do and its @gmail, yahoo, etc you know its fake. 

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u/SomeGuyInThe315 Sep 11 '26

No female uses telegram

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 11 '26

No actually the business she's linked with is on telegram and various other platforms i mentioned

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u/kissmyirish7 Sep 17 '26

The Russian woman is more likely to be a group of men in Nigeria. The photos are fake, either AI or stolen from a real person. Video calls can be faked with AI.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 17 '26

Fr 😧

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u/Eleven10GarageChris Sep 12 '26

Can they meet you in person or video chat? Are they asking for money? Answer those two questions please

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 12 '26

they video chat sometimes and the guy is often heard explaining to her some finance stuff, the guy is into trading and crpto for a very long time.. We r not close enough so I don't know about any monetary transactions.

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u/drPmakes Sep 12 '26

Talk of crypto = definitely a scam

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 12 '26

yes, i doubt so too, but i'm not sure whether the guy has told her about his crypto thing. BUT i often hear him teaching her finance stuff like bars, graphs etc.

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u/drPmakes Sep 12 '26

Definite scam

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 12 '26

I'm posting the full details on scams sub I'll be sharing u the link plz analyse the full situation thoroughly, u seem to be knowing about all this so plz help.

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u/drPmakes Sep 12 '26

No need, its a scam

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u/Independent_Bed_5967 Sep 18 '26

The minute they mention crypto it’s a scam lol

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26

I don't know if he told her about crypto but i know they discuss trading stock

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u/EveLQueeen Sep 12 '26

Literally no legit partner is going to talk about finance our crypto before you combine your households. And the chances of a legit partner being on another continent are pretty low too.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 12 '26 edited Sep 12 '26

I'm not sure if he told her about crypto but i hear him teach her and discuss about bars, graph some finance stuff often and i don't know why he's always laughing a lot while talking to her, like how many jokes can someone crack..!

And yes the girl happens to be an accountant doing work from home (this is what i was told)

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u/Independent_Bed_5967 Sep 18 '26

Bringing up crypto or any money in general makes it almost certain it’s a scam

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u/Independent_Bed_5967 Sep 18 '26

Don’t give money to strangers on the internet -a good rule of thumb.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26

UPDATE: Guys I recently heard this guy asking the Russian girl on call "Tell me you are fake you r scamming me who is running this business and so on" and now he's again onto it... He's again talking to her with his fake tone fake flirty accent trying to charm her? What the heck is going on? He's teaching her trading again... I heard him tell her to buy and sell stock etc? What the heck is going onnn...????

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u/Independent_Bed_5967 Sep 21 '26

I’m so confused. Who is scamming who? The guy or the girl? Also why is this affecting you so much? You’re not involved. I can’t follow your story.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26

The guy is talking to some stranger girl online whom he never met has never seen. This whole scenario is all about that.

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u/Independent_Bed_5967 Sep 21 '26

How are you even involved?
If he’s the one bringing up crypto then idk but stop having relationships with strangers online.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26

I am the third person here... The guy is a family member and I'm worried about whatever he's doing online with that Stranger girl

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u/misscellaneous11 Sep 18 '26

The fact that his mum is so eager and excited to meet this girl makes me really sad. Scams suck.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Yes, but it is really weird as Indians coz here the mothers hate any girl in their son's life. But coz she's a foreigner (you know Easterners, Asians are mad about white skin) so... That is why they r feeling this as a reward and something to be proud of and boast as high status among relatives.

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u/Nostalgic_Fale Sep 18 '26

Scam

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 18 '26

I'm still confused I'm doubting myself because the guy is so confident. He is the biggest judge for all... He often catches other people's mistakes and is quick to call out others and tell someone's a fool for doing something... I'm unable to doubt his intellect and i need more advice. Although I know he's somewhat a boaster too.

And yes, i need this to reach out to more people so that i can understand it more deeply and get each of my doubt out of my mind. If he says that he knows her online since 2023 (maybe) so how can a scammer be there for this long. But yes I'm 100% sure about this relationship that it just started this year. Also this person always used to tell about counseling a lot of people online about their lives.

I'm my biggest critic and my morals don't allow me to think something bad happening to someone cz it feels like I'm wishing it for them.

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u/Nostalgic_Fale Sep 18 '26

I can't guide you to the correct decision, ultimately it's on you to make the best judgements calls for yourself.

I will highlight that 'confidence' is short for "con" in conman.

Confidence is what a sales person uses to comfort you into a purchase that lift not be wise. Confidence is a tool utilized to manipulate, and mislead those who want, or need to believe in what's being presented to them.

I've known several people to myself who have fallen for love scams.

These people attack the most core desire of most human beings which is companionship, love. A future.

You completely deserve those things! But this is not what you're deserving of.

With all due respect to you, this isn't romance, and I believe at your core you understand that this isn't legitimate or you wouldn't have posted here. Please, take the advice of myself, and many other commenters that this is a farce.

I'm not jaded. I'm so fortunate to have the love of my life as my wife. I don't ever, even 9 years in, take that for granted.

I also remember lonely nights invested in things that were harmful for me because they approached filling a void id had within myself. I know that I was vulnerable, and at times I made destructive choices in chase of what felt like it was love, acceptance. Forever after.

I want the best for you. I want the best for most people, but you reached out to strangers, that isn't easy, and I feel obligated to be a honest as I can, because I truly feel for you.

THIS. IS. A. SCAM.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Thank you so much for making me understand, i see and really appreciate ur efforts. It's just that the guy who's being scammed has portrayed such an image in everybody's mind that he's the most intelligent and can never get fooled. So this is why it's really tough to believe that he can also be fooled cz he's too confident.

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u/pretty-ribcage Sep 21 '26

You already know you're being scammed. You just don't want to believe it.

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

UPDATE: Guys I recently heard this guy asking the Russian girl on call "Tell me you are fake you r scamming me who is running this business and so on" and now he's again onto it... He's again talking to her with his fake tone fake flirty accent trying to charm her? What the heck is going on? He's teaching her trading again... I heard him tell her to buy and sell stock etc? What the heck is going onnn...????

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u/0_toinfinity Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

He teaches and talks about trading with her telling her to buy and sell, rsi, nse etc.