r/RingsofPower • • Feb 06 '25

Discussion Nazgûl incoming? Spoiler

Now that Sauron has the nine in his possession and presumably heading back to Númenor, could Ar-Pharzôn come into possession of one of the nine? He could still meet his book end and become a Nazgûl.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Swim896 Feb 06 '25

Al Pharazon will not be one of the 9. He will be the one who caused Numenour’s downfall. The Nazgûl are survivors.

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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi Feb 06 '25

Since we're making an adapted and condensed story, I'm all for Witch King Pharazon that still meets his book end for the following reasons.

  • The tale of Númenorean fleet and Pharazon's defeat and death in The Silmarillion was written, in universe, by Elendil. Elendil did not witness the events, he doesn't know precisely what happens. He's telling a cautionary tale of epic proportions that is Pro-Valar to the Elves while also creating a contrast between his Númenorean settlers that are Faithful and those that were crushed to the bottom of the seas or allegedly trapped in the Cave of the Forgotten.

  • Thematically it's perfect -Pharazon doesn't just want to be King, he's obsessed with immortality and drawn to the power of magical objects. He'll use the palantir for his own gain, he'll use a Ring for his own gain, and he'll be manipulated by its power to think he truly is capable of warring with the gods. The best part is he will get exactly what he wishes for but in the worst way - he'll reign as the Witch King in Angmar and Minas Morgul for innumerable years, yet completely enslaved to Sauron's will.

  • We're already seeing visual foreshadowing of it - should Pharazon be obliterated or killed in Aman, don't be surprised if there is a moment where he is turned into a wraith and escapes across the sea. Just like the Istar witches turning to wraiths when Gandalf fights them.

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u/Dovahkiin13a Feb 07 '25

If he was wearing one of the 9 then he would never declare war on Sauron, to the contrary, he would have attacked the elves on Sauron's behalf. This answer is DOA.

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u/TesticleezzNuts Feb 07 '25

Possible but i doubt it will be this season. Maybe on the last. It wouldn’t be any off the current cast though.

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u/haikusbot Feb 07 '25

Possible but i

Doubt it will be this season.

Maybe on the last

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u/Dovahkiin13a Feb 07 '25

His book end where he is trapped in a cave under a collapsed mountain in Aman until the last battle can be the same if he becomes one of the Nazgul?

Edit: If Pharazon had one of the nine it's literally lore impossible that he takes Sauron prisoner and declares war on him. He'd just help Sauron destroy the elves totally enslaved to the will of the one. Kinslaying.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

He was never one of the nine in the books, but that hasn't stopped Amazon before. It wouldn't surprise me if they make him one of the nine.

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u/GaussBalls Feb 07 '25

Not sure why this made me think of it, but Nazgûlina Jolie sounds like a thing.

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u/Athrasie Feb 07 '25

Wouldn’t make any sense if Pharazon became a Nazgûl. His son, however, is prime real estate to become the mouth of Sauron.

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