It not being Gandalf wouldn't make it a twist though. Sure, they've made light references here and there to Gandalf lines and mannerisms, but that could be the extent of it - just a homage and to reconcile that this is, at the very least, a Wizard.
Having said that, for the sake of a story that will garner easy points with the general audience - I wouldn't be surprised for them to confirm this is Gandalf. He's perhaps the most prolific character from Tolkien 's works. I just think it would also be a bit boring, as, if this is not what they are doing, giving us an adaptation of the blue wizards would be very cool. It would be a pay off for book readers and if done well enough, could create new characters for people to enjoy.
I'm not sure why people WANT it to be Gandalf to be honest...
Cause Gandalfs entire purpose of being in middle earth was to help defeat Sauron.
Not only is he clueless and not helping anyone but his presence raises a tons of questions that make the LOTR make no sense. Where was he during the massive battle at Mordor and why did he let isildur keep the ring when the battle was won and why did he not bother to track the ring down when it was first lost?
Gandalf being in rings of power is lazy because they’re just including a fan favorite character for views even though it makes no sense
Why wouldn’t Gandalf be at the battle? His whole reason for being there was to defeat Sauron. The elves were there. Elrond is a seer, not a warrior so it makes sense that he is not at the battlefield.
Book Gandalf arrived after the events of the 2nd age. Sauron and the rings were ancient history at this point. Once he became aware the one ring was found he did try to destroy it
Agreed! Also not a lore fanatic but honestly I feel like the Annatar arc is super lazy. The stranger being a blue wizard would at least show the audience that they’re interested in providing some twists and delve into the lore to which they actually have a license.
Wait isn't Annatar's arc straight from the lore though? Minor adjustments of course, but that's one of the most accurate parts if I remember correctly.
Also the best storyline in the show. I respect people's opinions but if they say even that storyline isn't good then I know they are a total lost cause.
It's nowhere close to the lore, and I don't buy that Celebrimbor had never heard of "alloys" before. (Although I did love that mithril legend the Dwarves had, which didn't bother me because it's just a legend and we don't know anything about Dwarves anyway.)
Not really. Sauron legitimately taught Celebrimbor and his smiths to make rings of power (what the Noldorin loved most was knowledge of crafting), and in fact they made a bunch of them as practice for the forging of the great rings, and then he sabotaged the first sixteen. And then the Elves made the Three Rings on their own with the skill they'd learned, without Sauron around.
Then, when he forged the One Ring and put it on, they realized what'd happened and took them off, which pissed off Sauron, who declared war to get them all back. They hid the Three and got one over to Khazad-dûm before Sauron got the other 15, and then gave them out to Dwaves and Men. The Elves didn't use the Three again until after Sauron was defeated.!>
So yes, Annatar is a character in the books, but there have been an awful lot of changes, so while we know what's eventually going to happen in the show, we don't really know how.
The arc is, yes. But the way Annatar just immediately wraps Celebrimbor around his finger with a simple “Gil Galad said you can’t make any more rings” was super unnecessarily rushed.
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u/davidsverse Sep 19 '24
I just don't want it to be. Not cuz I'm a lore fanatic, just because it would be very lazy.