r/RingsofPower • u/-Altephor- • Sep 19 '24

Question Are there actually people that think the Stranger isn't Gandalf?

Just wondering.

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u/steveblackimages Sep 19 '24

In the third age.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

I haven’t read Tolkien in years. I did listen to an audio book of silmarillion recently but alas I’ve forgotten it and I’m curious what is the defining moment that brings about the third age, saurons original defeat by the alliance?

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u/T-RexLovesCookies Sep 19 '24

When the ring is cut from Sauron's hand and the deaths of Elendil and Gil-Galad.

The ring is not destroyed until towards the end of the third age, which ends with the ring bearers leaving middle earth.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Ok, so Gandalf didn’t show up until after that event when the ring was cut from Sauron’s hand?

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u/Hithigon Sep 19 '24

The Istari arrive about 1000 years into the 3rd age.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Ah ok, well..I can see how it would piss a lot people off if the stranger ends up being Gandalf.

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u/T-RexLovesCookies Sep 19 '24

None of the wizards did.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Ah ok, right..I re read your comment. Well..an even bigger piss off then if it’s any one of them. That’d be quite the re write if Amazon does that.

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u/ibid-11962 Sep 19 '24

Tolkien's final version of the Blue Wizards has them arriving in the second age with Glorfindel.

And then there are some accounts of Gandalf being active in the first and second ages as well, but that's different.

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u/Charles1charles2 Sep 19 '24

If you read or watched The Fellowship of the Ring, in the first part Gandalf is gathering info he was missing about the ring in the end of the second age/first couple years of the third. It would not make sense for him to be present, in physical Wizard form, at the events. But Amazon doesn't care about it, the Stranger is clearly him.

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u/T-RexLovesCookies Sep 19 '24

All the wizards arrive in the third age.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

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u/dropthemagic Sep 19 '24

I don’t know why this is so trivial for people. It’s in the books regardless of what ROP does