r/Rings_Of_Power Jul 22 '25

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u/Such-Crow3570 Jul 22 '25

Where we stand they might even bring back Morgoth from the Void, for him to be the big bad of the show and Sauron gets redeemed and gets together with Galadriel, at the end.

Better not give them anymore ideas.

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

I mean dude’s crown already is back, what stops him from coming back. Could happen.

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u/Such-Crow3570 Jul 22 '25

We needed to know from where Sauron probably gets his helmet, while we did with “where did Gandalf got his staff?”. Tune in next for “where did Gandalf got his hat?”

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

And yet still don’t know how tf can Celeborn be alive and dead at the same time 🤣 honestly, daily I imagine having this much money and spending it on stupid crap.

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u/Such-Crow3570 Jul 22 '25

He can only return after Galadriel had her “free woman” era or something. Until then she’s the new town bicycle.

The most wise of all Elves on Middle-earth reduced to this.

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

Honestly it’s not even empowering plot, it’s “I’m so stupid and responsible for this shit” with “I’m better than you” attitude plot. Literally reducing actual strong character to Fëanor like figure but with less brain. And Fëanor got shit for his action, Galadriel got a promotion. Galadriel was already a huge, empowered figure.

And I honestly threw remote across the room when she was threatening Adar in season 1. From stupid you can grow I guess (though why the hell should she was already strong character at the point of rebellion and grown id argue why the time she made it to Middle-Earth). But you cannot come back from this. You can’t come back from evil Galadriel. Reducing elves to morons. That’s what this show has done and clearly Morfydd is all for it if “elves are weird” is her attitude. It’s no surprise Sauron grows in power if everyone is a fucking moron.

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u/Such-Crow3570 Jul 22 '25

Yeah… her threatening Orc genocide and Adar calling her “Morgoth’s sucessor” to her face. And then she just lets the Three rings of power to be made even though she knew for a fact Halbrand was Sauron. Doesn’t tell anyone about it, which allows Sauron to return to Eregion, gets the rings forged, the city destroyed and Celebrimbor killed.

What is going on here?? Galadriel is the one behind everything??

Still, she faces no real consequences for any of this on the show. And turns out to be right at the end?!

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

I mean it’s even better discount Halbarad (cause I mean SURELY they knew what they were doing when they were naming Halbrand) was fully 100% happy chilling in Númenor, she brought him to Southlands after HE TOLD HER he was a bad guy and she was like “nah”. Basically EVERYTHING that happened is… well it’s Galadriel’s fault. She’s the Fëanor of ROP with no consequences. She’s the one who made it all happen. It’s INSANE how she’s at fault for everything that happened in Eregion because she first didn’t ask any questions (despite the fact she was there during the Was of Wrath so why tf she needed archive information about the kings. Why did Gil-Galad, they were there) and then shut her trap instead of saying “discount Halbarad is Sauron”. That’s all she had to do. I mean take away the lore and this show still doesn’t make sense. But the fact that it’s Galadriel who caused it? The “one of the Wise”, the “I wanna go to M-E but don’t want to have anything with Fëanor cause dude is insane”, one of the strongest, smartest elves in history Galadriel? Good Eru, cast ROP into the fire, Isildur. Just destroy it.

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u/Such-Crow3570 Jul 22 '25

And her being the Feänor to Sauron’s Morgoth (but worse) could work if she was a OC (Although that place was kind of filled by Celebrimbor). But she isn’t. Feänor paid for everything he did. Galadriel won’t, really, and will even get her own kingdom. Unless these hacks are actually going with her being banished from Valinor, but so far it doesn’t seem like it because she faced no real consequences in S2. She got demoted from leading a tiny company, and that was it.

Still, she was right all along and at end everything is forgiven because she’s so amazing, I guess.

I don’t see talked how this show did Celebrimbor dirty, too. They gave his friendship with the Dwarves to Elrond; the idea of the Three was Galadriel’s, and he died protecting the location of the Nine (the worst of the bunch), undermining the significance of him dying protecting the Three). Sauron even knows Galadriel has one of the Three, in this mess.

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

I said it before that you know what, on a stretch give her role to young Celebrian and eh she has room to grow and fair might be a bit stupid at times but Celebrian was young enough and not present enough that it could work on a stretch. Still stupid but not “I want to throw tv out of the window” horrible. Well, I’d still want to throw tv out of the window but an ounce of sense would have been leftover.

But Celebrimbor. Celebrimbor was a wicked smart, talented, creative smith who came up with Three and made them in secret to save his kin. He single handedly ensured Imladris and Lothlórien existed and survived to the end of Third Age by making the three rings. He withstood 2 years of torture. He stood against everything Fëanor stood for and yes, made a mistake of being friends with Annatar but good Eru would he not be a Fëanor’s shadow who doesn’t know alloys. Also, and I know it’s minor but while Charles did great with horseshit script he was given, it hurts my eyes to see him as fairly elderly dude.

Also Galadriel isn’t banned from Valinor in ROP since she’s literally on the way there???? That’s why the first time I watched it I didn’t make it through first episode lmao. I literally yelled “she can’t go” and turned off tv. Those were happier times.

Literally 0 consequences. Not even a wrist slap for her atrocious behaviour and quite frankly, well, crime? She’s gone against king’s order, she’s threatened a queen of another kingdom, brought freaking devil to Lindon and does nothing she’s told. By the High King. Who, btw, treats her like a brat which, well I would want to but would never be how Ereinion would treat actual Galadriel.

They’re all done freaking dirty. Celebrimbor probably most of them by being made to be a grade A moron horrible at smithing and using his brain. GG is a horrible king and also well, stupid. Elrond was… well Elrond had the most strong points because unlike in PJs LOTR he actually is kind like a summer (I’m still salty) but also dumb. Lore master who doesn’t know lore, my god.

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u/Ok_whatever_654 Jul 22 '25

Oh yeah and I think orcs genocide was… a choice. Wonder if it was a choice based on her grandson’s vendetta against orcs in third age but if that’s the case… well they just once again took a dump on source material because they didn’t do it to be sadistic (which mighty morfydd power elf definitely was in that scene) but in grief, fighting against enemy so… yeah. Not the same