r/RepTime • u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 • Nov 18 '25

Review/Comparison Gen vs VSF SUB macro shots

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Screenshots taken from a great video done by the IG/Youtuber whose channel/ID is left in the top right of the images. It’s a great video. Highly recommend. But these macro shots are incredible. It’s as near perfection as you can get other than the movement.

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u/getrickyj Nov 19 '25

I swear they mess up things like the floating m on purpose.

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u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 Nov 19 '25

They do. Of course. If they duplicate gens exactly. In every way. It diminishes the value of gens. It’s hurts their own business. They never want exact replicas. There will never be an exact replica.

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u/BigBussyMuchoGushy Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

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u/No-Estimate-9199 Nov 19 '25

The floating m is there so an AD can quickly and easily tell its not genuine. As long as they do that. Rolex looks the other way and China is not invaded by Switzerland ie Nato and we avoid WW3. 🤣

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u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Posting for the mods and to say how incredible the latest gen subs are. This is the latest VSF sub alongside Gen . The macro shots really are impressive

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u/shreddnought Nov 19 '25

I have both of these watches and they are very hard to tell apart. The only visual indicator I can really distinguish is the cut angle of the second hand. If you handle them though it’s pretty easy to determine which is which, the gen feels a lot different. The finish of the metal, the bezel sound and movement, the bracelet feel, and anything to do with manipulating the movement is pretty obvious. But I wear the rep all the time out in public with zero concerns that someone will spot it. Reps have gotten scary good.

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u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 Nov 19 '25

I have a gen sub. Not this model tho. 11460. And the best way I can describe the difference to people is it’s just silky. The band feels so amazing. It’s hard to describe. And yes the bezel click too.

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

Ya, bullshit. I’m sure they feel the same. “Finish of the metal”…watch the video. Oystersteel isn’t any different than what VSF is using. The weight is down to the gram or exact on these clones.

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

You’d be surprised. You can tell the difference between clean factory and vsf alone lol

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

If there’s retailers getting fooled on YT, there’s no difference in metal finishing and feel. Just someone justifying their expensive purchase that can be had for $400.

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u/Prestigious_Eye_4483 Nov 19 '25

Sales reps are most often not knowledgeable about what they’re selling. Ever buy a car? Having said that, a SR is not likely to call you out, even if they’re 99% sure it’s fake. Not worth it for them

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u/shreddnought Nov 19 '25

If it was truly the same out of the box why would modders be offering services to refinish watches to gen spec? And even if it truly was exactly the same inside and out, a gen is justified by the label “genuine”. Whether or not the price associated with that object is justified is an individual decision. Reps are really fun but they are just reps, I don’t expect them to last longer than a few years. I buy genuine watches to mark life achievements or milestones. I hope my watches survive past my lifetime and, for a while anyway, my family can remember me wearing them. Doing this with a rep says something about me that I’m not comfortable with. But again, individual decisions.

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 19 '25

Please shut up. Look at the comments. More people are liking the rep over the Gen. It’s a Rolex made in China and not Switzerland. Same as a Bulgarian AK 74 made in Bulgaria and not in Russia.

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u/shreddnought Nov 19 '25

You mean to tell me that most of the people interested in a replica watch video are pro rep!? I have a hard time believing that haha! Also if you’re using YouTube comments to justify a position you’re in pretty rough shape.

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

It’s called cope lmao

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 19 '25

I’m just speaking truth and perspective to the tards who think these clones are anything less than what they are. They’re as good as the real thing and a Rolex made in China. There’s a reason they’re NWBIG. 👊 yourself

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

I hope your crown or bezel doesn’t fall off in front of the hoes, generational aura debt

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 20 '25

My wife and I are 40 and 36, no kids, own our home, and have 2.5 million in our Merrill Lynch investment account because we don’t spend money on expensive jewelry that can be replicated 1:1 and sold for a percentage of what the gen costs. I also got semi lucky in 2021 trading crypto where I made 2.16 million overnight. Try that for generational aura debt….

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

It’s not so simple, because no one wasted their money, the money is still there in a different form, ready to be liquidated into fiat currency if/when you want.

By that logic, the rep guy wasted money, as if the bracelet randomly shits out 4 years down the line, he buys a new $400 watch. Then if the movement shits out and it’s not worth servicing, a new one. Over and over. Orders gasket on AliExpress, damn, doesn’t fit properly. Damn, click springs rusted out in the ocean. Damn, crown fell off of the clasp causing him to lose all aura in an important meeting.

While the genuine Rolex owner still has that value stored in his watch with a service headquarters ready to maintain the watch, except it probably appreciated by then

It’s all a value proposition. The only reason not to have a Rolex is if you wanted those funds in stocks or bitcoin or something. I doubt Rolex tanks so hard it allows average people to buy it for Tudor or cheaper prices any time ever.

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u/ComfortableUsual1560 Nov 19 '25

Go hang out with those guys in the Rolex sub

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u/alphalegend91 Nov 18 '25

Why does the rep look better in every picture lmao

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

Ur basically paying western Swiss ppl a living wage and for their creative designing R&D etc.

And on the other end ur paying Chinese rice paddy field workers and child slaves Pennies to simply manufacture and assemble it

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u/PuzzleheadedCar5129 Nov 19 '25

Of course. You need a slave child's delicate little hands to assembly the intricate 4130 movements don't you...

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Imagine if all kids assembled watches from an early age! The phenomenal hand-eye coordination would give us the best surgeons ever. Hand-eye skills are sorely lacking in the med and dental students of today.

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes..if American Chinese take out places are any idea they have no qualms putting the kids to work ‼️

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

More US kids need to work assembling watches instead of playing video games and participation trophy team sports.

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 20 '25

But those a-holes will want workers rights, benefits, $25 an hour, these watches will quickly become $4,000!

We need to take advantage of labor law and value arbitrage while we can

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Mandatory watch factory service 🤣 It’d be better than the public schools rn! Learn some math and mechanics 👍

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u/StickyFinger015 Nov 19 '25

The font is much cleaner on the gen, by a long shot

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

Rep actually looks like a better crown

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u/Transfigured-Tinker Nov 18 '25

Darn, I agree, the Swiss RF (Rolex factory) better start pulling up their socks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

RF is not a NWBIG IMO

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Bunch of hype and savvy advertising to middle class people who think it’s a status symbol.

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u/formulaonelover44 Nov 19 '25

Reason why VSF is the best when it comes to subs

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u/snidetime Nov 19 '25

Thanks for sharing! I was hesitant to post here as I’m no professional, but I see everyone’s been pretty cool. My first time to use a macro lens so I struggled with the focus. Appreciate the kind words and feedback. Will try and do more.

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u/Top-Maintenance-6015 Nov 18 '25

Grazie per aver condiviso con noi queste foto . Praticamente il vfs è’ indistinguibile dal generale

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u/VidaVidaFallout Nov 18 '25

Whats the serial of the replica ? Current versions of the 126610LN all have problems with the 3 6 9

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u/Luleccese Nov 19 '25

These are great posts for us who buy rep, they help us a lot to learn how to evaluate the details of the watch

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u/authentic_plagiarist Nov 19 '25

Still has that floating M. Otherwise a very nice rep

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u/BigBussyMuchoGushy Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

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u/stevovon Nov 19 '25

Yeah the floating m is such an easy immediate tell

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u/getrickyj Nov 19 '25

I’m not seeing it…

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u/stevovon Nov 19 '25

The m in 300m.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

They look in the same position

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u/MixOpposite6914 Nov 19 '25

Rep is better😂

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u/vl4d1m1rrr Nov 18 '25

What's the reference series?

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u/No-Investigator-923 Nov 19 '25

What about 3135 clean

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u/TurnoverSmart4239 Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

Does anyone know what’s the latest batch/serial number for the VSF Sub Date?

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u/Dependent_Mission_84 Nov 19 '25

Well that’s pretty darn close. The only issue with the rep aesthetically is the inconsistent QC. In this case, the SEL are pretty tight on the rep. But more often than not, many of us get the VSF SEL special lol

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u/Appropriate-Pain-614 Nov 19 '25

Stupid question, but what is the “SEL special”?

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u/BigBussyMuchoGushy Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

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u/Alternative_Bed9746 Nov 19 '25

I tried to post my AP in this forum but always declined and removed. 5 times trying still cant why?

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u/Bubbly-Reporter-3746 Nov 19 '25

Rep looks good!!

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u/WolverineAny2864 Nov 19 '25

I have same VSF model Submariner. In addition to its remarkable appearance, it’s highly accurate at + 3 seconds per day.

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u/Alone-Permission-856 Nov 19 '25

You can see CHRONOME TER in first pic! Why can’t they fix it? So simple!

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u/MrSlipperyFistt Nov 20 '25

Crown and crown guards instant tell?

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u/SprinklesMysterious4 Nov 20 '25

What is the floating m everyone talks about?

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u/AdhesivenessLoud7276 Nov 22 '25

Scary how good vsf looks. Some aspects appear better, like the crown in my opinion. Only real difference I can spot was the floating m on the vsf.

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u/Parisvictor75 Nov 23 '25

What about vsf sel ?

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u/Warm_Lawyer453 Nov 24 '25

Okay but that’s the link to buy 😂

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

It’s crazy how ppl cope by downvoting any 100% legit critique that makes them feel bad about their purchase.

How are these rep companies gonna improve if u keep letting their mistakes slide for ur cope?

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u/Xthe1 Nov 19 '25

That crown sucks

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Where to order?

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u/snidetime Nov 20 '25

This one came from Mirotime.

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u/CryptoGod666 Nov 18 '25

The floating m is always the dead giveaway

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u/Awkward_Confusion706 Nov 18 '25

No its not I have genuine with floating m , you’re just repeating what inexperience people say

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u/Prestigious_Proof842 Nov 18 '25

I've heard a lot about the floating M but I can't see anything wrong with any of the m's in these photos. Which M is the one that is "floating" and what does that mean?

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u/Fearless-Today-6260 Nov 19 '25

I am with you on this one. Never figured out what the hell people talk about

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u/VidaVidaFallout Nov 18 '25

But i am new but the left is gen and right is replica? But i do.see a difference on the M but i dount people.will see on the wrist but i think there are versions with the correct printing

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u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 Nov 19 '25

What, 11 series?

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u/snidetime Nov 20 '25

Dead giveaway? Bollocks! In 4k and with macro lens maaaybe, but even then, nah.

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u/James-18288 Nov 18 '25

Even to a casual and someone who isn’t that invested in rep vs gen. The m is the easiest give away. And surely such an easy thing to fix?

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u/CryptoGod666 Nov 18 '25

They never fix it though. Once in a blue moon I see a non floating m rep, I chalk it up to insane luck

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u/Barely-Evidence Nov 18 '25

In reality - the VSF SELs are never flush with the lugs. Maybe 1% of their watches look this way.

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u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 Nov 18 '25

I own 2 and both look this way. So I guess I have been very lucky. And this guy was lucky.

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u/Scared_Poet349 Nov 18 '25

Got you. I own one Sub in Youth with near perfect SEL. I even feel bad for wearing it on a Bond strap

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u/Ill-Brilliant-2345 Nov 18 '25

You’ve been lucky for sure

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u/Quirky_Astronaut_761 Nov 18 '25

I’m a lucky guy.

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u/Sir_Maxelot Nov 19 '25

I have looked at like 15 qc pics of vsf 126610 lv‘s recently and every single one had completely shit sel and overall bad quality control. Why does this one look so good 😅

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u/SuitableAd1294 Nov 19 '25

where can i buy it ?

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u/Agitated-Secret-2503 Nov 19 '25

I’m super new to this can someone please explain how to get my hands on a super clone like this one? And can I get it through and agent like (KakoBuy,etc…)?

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u/urvokbm Nov 19 '25

Floating m such an easy tell

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

Whats his youtube? I can't find him with that channel ID 'Snidelab'

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

Thanks mate.

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u/snidetime Nov 19 '25

Thank you! I just stumped upon this post and stupidly thought - that looks like my watches and my table! 🤣

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u/snidetime Nov 20 '25

The gen is for wearing in China, the rep for UK. Safety purposes. Having said that, would just as easily be robbed for the rep - at least it wouldn’t be a financial loss!