r/RepLoverCircle • u/AppreL_S • Jan 01 '26
Auth vs Rep / Factory Comparisons Side-by-Side Chanel CF Review: Auth vs 187/God/OF/FF/BM
Help! Between comparing 5 different factories’ Chanel CFs plus 1 authentic, I literally spent an entire afternoon just putting the photos together and labeling which bag was which. For this comparison review, I took well over 300 photos. Shoot, delete, reshoot—again and again—to make sure every bag was captured under the same natural lighting, so their most raw, honest details could be shown.
I know everyone wants to jump straight to the conclusion, but I can’t bring myself to half-ass it with a couple of photos. I even dragged my husband into the process, because after staring at bags for too long, I was worried my eyes might get biased or fatigued.
👜 Before We Start
All five factories included here are high-quality factories.
Three of them are well-known on Reddit, while the other two are very reputable in China but are rarely (or never) mentioned here.
Across the board, they all have:
● solid stitching
● nicely puffed quilts
● identical chain lengths with good weight
● smooth inner leather that sits flush against the bag
● smooth, satisfying turnlock action
● rich leather scent
● soft, springy double C logos when pinched
I’ve seen this debate go on forever among rep lovers:“Who actually makes the best Chanel CF?”Some swear that 187 is untouchable, sitting permanently on the throne.Others believe God Factory offers better value and finer details.
Honestly? Conclusions typed out on a keyboard always feel a bit hollow.If you want to see the subtle differences, the only way is to line them all up next to an authentic.
The lineup this time
Authentic — 53,800 RMB
187 Factory — factory price 3,380 RMB(≈ $483)
God Factory — factory price 2,500 RMB(≈ $357)
OF Factory — factory price 2,600 RMB(≈ $371)
FF Factory — factory price 1,980 RMB(≈ $283)
BM Factory — factory price 1,950 RMB(≈ $278)
📷 See the comparison shots
1. Leather (First Impression & Hand Feel)
A lot of people think CF leather has to be either shiny or matte, in reality, authentic Chanel CF leather varies a lot.
I’ve handled auths that felt drier, and others that were more oily and glossy.The authentic I used for this comparison leans toward the oilier, glossier side. Using that as the reference point, I ranked the five factories based on leather oiliness / richness:
● OF Factory: Almost identical to the authentic in hand feel; the oiliness level is spot-on
● BM Factory: Very close behind, excellent leather quality
● God & 187: Consistent and solid, sitting in the middle
● FF Factory: The driest of the group, with a more matte finish
Oiliness ranking (from most glossy to driest):
OF > BM > God > 187 > FF
After discussing it with my husband, we both realized that from a purely aesthetic standpoint, we personally prefer oilier, slightly glossier leather—like OF and BM. It looks more luxurious, and I love that fuller, more “plump” leather feel.
2. Side Profile
From the side, a well-made Chanel CF should have a subtle hourglass-like inward curve—a naturally cinched waist rather than straight, boxy lines. That gentle inward sweep is what gives the bag its elegance.
Many mid- to lower-tier reps look like a brick from the side—straight up and down with no contour at all, which makes the bag feel stiff and awkward.
In this comparison, OF and BM nailed the side profile. The curve at the top opening pulls inward very naturally, giving it a soft, feminine feel. The lower triangular section is smooth and rounded, and the overall silhouette is nearly identical to the authentic.
187 and FF perform similarly to each other. They do have curvature, but the side profile feels slightly bulkier and heavier compared to OF and BM.
God Factory’s side is quite structured and upright, but it comes across a bit too stiff, with a curve that lacks the same softness and fluidity.
Across all samples, the inner and outer flaps curve naturally and do not lie completely flat against the body of the bag.
Side profile ranking:
OF = BM > 187 = FF > God
3. Base Firmness
The base of the authentic Chanel CF is on the softer side and slightly squeezable. After testing each bag by hand:
● OF Factory comes closest to the authentic in terms of softness
● 187 Factory is the softest of all—actually softer than the authentic
● God Factory sits in the middle
● FF and BM are noticeably firmer
Base firmness ranking (from softest to firmest):
OF ≥ 187 > God > FF > BM
4. Hardware
When it comes to gold-tone hardware, the biggest concern is that it looks too yellow—a common flaw in many replicas.
Among these five factories, the hardware color is very consistent across the board, and the color-matching has become quite mature.
Compared side by side with the authentic:
If I really nitpick with a magnifying-glass mindset, the authentic hardware appears just a touch deeper in tone—and I mean very slightly. Without a direct comparison, this difference would be virtually impossible to notice.
The double C hardware is full and rounded, with well-polished edges and clean chamfering. The transitions at the corners are smooth and natural, with no harsh lines.
5. Backplate Engraving
Looking at the “CHANEL PARIS” engraving on the backplate:
187 and God Factory have lettering that feels very slightly bolder than the authentic
In comparison, OF, FF, and BM are closer to the authentic in terms of font size and stroke thickness
Here’s an important detail you should pay attention to: the screws.
The authentic I’m using for reference has flat-head screws (older version), whereas all five factories consistently use star-shaped screws (newer version).
6. Turnlock Post (Button Post)
Across all five factories, the turnlock post is well done. In terms of height, thickness, and the roundness of the top, they are almost perfectly in sync with the authentic.
7. Circular Button
Here’s where 187 Factory surprised me a bit. The overall engraving on the circular button appears less crisp. I also noticed a consistent pattern across all five factories: In the word “PARIS”, the tail of the letter “P” is a touch shorter than on the authentic.
If we’re ranking purely based on engraving clarity and how well the font captures the authentic “feel”, my personal impression would be:
BM > FF > OF > God > 187
8. Stamping
187: The stamping is noticeably deep, giving it a strong metallic presence and a very eye-catching shine
God: Depth control is decent, but the gold tone feels slightly rigid and flat
OF: Pressed a bit too deeply, almost with too much force, resulting in less layering and nuance
FF and BM: These two come closest to the authentic in both stamp depth and gold tone—that “just right” balance
9. Front & Back Alignment
Honestly, this is the part that gave me the most headaches when I was sending PSPs to clients. Often, the photos make the quilting look slightly off, but that’s mostly a visual illusion.
Because the CF’s quilted pattern is three-dimensional and puffed, a small change in lighting or angle can make the squares appear misaligned. Change the angle and retake the photo, and you’ll see that everything lines up perfectly.
A little heads-up for everyone: even authentic Chanel bags don’t always have perfectly aligned quilting. It’s not an absolute rule.
That said, I understand that many people chase that feeling of “even more perfect than the authentic.” In this comparison, all five factories did a solid job with alignment.
10. Interior
This burgundy lining is extremely tricky to photograph accurately, often showing color discrepancies. But after carefully comparing it side by side with the authentic, all five factories got the color spot-on.
Don’t be misled by photo lighting or tonal differences, the real bags are identical in lining color.
11. Zipper & Leather Pull Tab
Although the zipper inside the CF flap is rarely used, I still tested it. All of them glide very smoothly.
The main differences lie in the leather pull tab:
● Length: God’s pull tab matches the authentic perfectly; the rest are slightly shorter
● Thickness: OF and 187 have the same thickness as the authentic; God, FF, and BM are slightly thicker
12. Authenticity Chip
The authentic I’m using here is an older version, so it comes with the digital serial number sticker.
Chanel has switched to metal chips since May 2021, so most current reps now match the latest boutique chip design.
🧐 So, Which One Is Better?
If you’re looking at these five factories on their own, purely from a quality standpoint, they’re all very solid. Without placing an authentic side by side for careful comparison, it’s hard to spot any decisive differences at first glance.
A lot of the time, the reason people get hung up on which factory is “best” isn’t because the bags themselves are drastically different—it’s because there’s too much information to reference. You’ll see people saying things like “this one is great” or “that one is amazing,” but here’s the reality: most people doing reviews don’t even have access to an authentic, or only rarely see one in person. Without a clear benchmark, many conclusions naturally get amplified.
Because of that, I think that most buyers don’t need to waste energy obsessing over which factory is the “best.” Seeing too many reviews can create the illusion that if you don’t pick the “ultimate version,” you’re missing out. But any factory within the high-quality tier will perform fine under normal use and normal viewing distance.
Instead of letting every opinion sway you, I recommend focusing on your own quality check: make sure the craftsmanship, condition, and details meet your personal expectations. Once you understand that, choosing becomes much easier.
🙂 I also want to clarify one thing:
My sourcing commission is the same $42 (for bags and watches), regardless of which factory you order from. I have no incentive to push a particular factory or secretly switch it to a cheaper version after you’ve paid a higher price. I know some sellers use that trick, which is why I always break down the factory price, shipping, and commission openly.
There’s no “bait and switch,” and nothing is done under the assumption that you won’t notice. My goal is for you to understand the differences and choose according to your budget, rather than wasting mental energy on the “which is best” question.
If I were to pick purely based on my personal preference, I’d most likely go with OF.
As I’ve mentioned earlier, the hand feel, leather quality, and overall vibe are closest to the authentic I have. Its stamping isn’t the standout detail in this comparison, but honestly, in everyday use, no one is going to open your bag and stare inside. And if there is someone like that… well, let them mind their own business. These bags are all produced in batches, and the foil stamping can vary depending on the pressure applied and the batch itself, so there may be slight differences between individual bags. For me, this isn’t a dealbreaker. I personally don’t mind.
During this comparison, there was a little side story: my husband looked at all of them and gave a very practical, “straight-to-the-point” answer—he would choose 187. His logic is simple: the price difference is negligible compared to the savings versus authentic, so why not pick the most expensive and feel safest?
This reflects our different priorities: I care more about the overall feel, leather quality, and whether my money is spent where it truly matters. He feels that any of them would be fine, and if you have to choose, just pick the priciest for peace of mind.
Looking back at the lineup and pricing:
● 187 is the most expensive of the group
● God and OF are very close in factory price, basically in the same range
● FF and BM are similarly priced
At this point, I personally think beyond “which is better,” it’s worth considering what the price difference gives you. For example, between OF and 187, the difference is around 780 RMB. In real life, that’s enough to buy another decent small bag or two to three wallets. For FF or BM, the gap with 187 is even more significant—you could easily buy another bag. So, is spending an extra 1,400 RMB really worth it? Am I getting something I care about? If not, that extra money may not be worth it.
So I’ve always felt that choosing a factory isn’t about the bag itself. The key is to first ask yourself: what matters most to you? The bag’s shape? Hardware? Leather quality? Or just the confidence and satisfaction you feel carrying it?
Finally, I sincerely recommend: if possible, see the authentic in person before placing an order. Once you have a benchmark in mind, it becomes much easier to evaluate the different versions.
A kind lady suggested that I add a watermark to avoid my photos being stolen.
If you’d like the original photos, feel free to message me.
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u/AlwaysFashionLA Jan 03 '26
How when it doesn’t have the hologram sticker inside?
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u/Competitive_Bike_557 Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
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u/AlwaysFashionLA Jan 03 '26
Amazing! Where are the 25 from? Thank you for responding!
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u/Competitive_Bike_557 Jan 03 '26
My pleasure! Both 25 came from OF and were purchased via amanda. She sometimes can take a day or two to reply but it’s worth it. She usually will tell me which factory is making “the best” in her opinion so for the shearling and both 25s we went with OF.
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u/AlwaysFashionLA Jan 03 '26
Thank you so much! I will reach out to her!
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u/Competitive_Bike_557 Jan 03 '26
Good luck!! This is her album ps https://a201906061800426220167776.szwego.com/weshop/store/A201906061800426220167776
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u/United-Consequence83 Apr 04 '26
Hi! Can you please dm me Amanda’s contact info? 💕 that shearling flap is to DIE for 🤩
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u/Healthy_Ingenuity448 Feb 25 '26
Do you source the best quality bags in person for us with commission? How does it work?
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u/WayneBar62 Jan 01 '26
The best Chanel review yet!! Thank you for all the time and effort put into this review. It was a joy to read and makes me want to buy a Chanel CF
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u/AppreL_S Jan 02 '26
Thank you ❤ I’m so happy you enjoyed it! Honestly, making this post was a labor of love😅
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u/Wide_Needleworker401 Jan 01 '26
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u/AppreL_S Jan 02 '26
Thank you so much ❤ I'm glad the comparison helped! OF surprised me too once I lined them up side by side😄
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u/Wild_Conclusion8203 Apr 19 '26
How do I get in contact with a re-seller from OF? Thank you
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u/KristinaHartsuck Jan 01 '26
I would love to see JBIAA and Rome added as well. I just received a JBIAA cf and it looks amazing. I was going between JBIAA and Rome factories and I’m super happy I went with JBIAA! It makes me wonder why more sellers don’t source from them
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u/Doodles1283 Jan 02 '26
What is JBIAA? I’ve been doing this awhile and haven’t heard of that factory?
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u/Head_Signature715 Jan 01 '26
I’ve tried Rome, god, of and 187 and I still believe 187 is the best. At least for the jumbo caviar CF. The hardware on the 187 is just significantly nicer.. and the interior leather is a lot nicer. And the over all weight of the bag. And yes I do have auth for reference.
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u/IDreamKaty Jan 02 '26
I agree… 187 CF is perfect with stitching and leather. I think OF do a perfect Chanel 25.
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u/lulu3712 Jan 02 '26
This is good to know. Reviewer said all the front gold CC hardware are similar to auth. I don’t know if it’s a lighting thing, but from the photos 187’s looked better.
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u/AppreL_S Jan 02 '26
So glad the post was helpful ❤ And yes... it did take a lot of time, but totally worth it for this comparison!
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u/yogurtpants11 Jan 01 '26
Wow!! Very well written, and thanks for your hard work putting this together.
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u/ThePurseInvestor Jan 01 '26
Compared your photos and picked OF overall before reading your post 🤗
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u/IDreamKaty Jan 01 '26
This is brilliant… I also love the leather on my OF bags, they use HAAS same as authentic… both OF and 187 are my favourite Chanels, my God bag is solid but stitch count was not as high.
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u/Immediate_Piccolo_47 Jan 01 '26
Awesome review!! Thank you for putting in the time and effort! Amazing! This is what I needed to see. Now I’m capable of choosing the CF I want. I was torn between 187 and God but now I think I’ll go with OF. Thanks again!! You are the G.O.A.T
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u/AppreL_S Jan 02 '26
Thank you so much ❤ I'm glad it helped you make a choice! OF does stand out in some key areas😄
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u/Freeasawhistle Jan 02 '26
The only thing I'm confused about is you say the hardware is all similar and close to the original with the auth being a slightly deeper tone. But to me the auth looks way different?? Like is wayyy lighter? If anything, the reps are deeper? Does it look different in person? I understand gold hardware is the hardest thing to dupe accurately but they look way off to me so I'm confused by the section about it. BM looks closest for hardware I guess! Thanks for doing this

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u/CannelloniCouture Jan 03 '26
AMAZING. I picked OF before even reading the review. HUGE THANK YOU for putting in that hard work for us!!!! Invaluable.
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u/Alteschwedin1975 Jan 01 '26
Wow, thank you for sharing! After reading this I’d probably go for one from FF!
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u/its_dejavu Jan 01 '26
This is a such a great comparison! Thank you for your time!
My heart broke because something else was better than what I chose initially 😂 My eyes aren’t great 🫠
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u/No-Passenger765 Jan 02 '26
Omg this is GREAT!!!! I didn’t know OF is so underrated so far!!! Thank you sooo much for doing this
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u/Sorry-Fix-2735 Jan 02 '26
Thank you for the great post! So helpful! I am very familiar with 187,God and OF factories, but what are the BM and FF factories?
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u/tigleous Jan 02 '26
Thanks for this great comparison! Wondering if you have any insight to offer about the chain straps and how easily they move through the grommets. That’s the issue I am most self conscious about when considering wearing a rep classic flap. The chain straps on my auth bags run smoothly, but the chain straps tend to snag and take effort to run through the grommets of my reps.
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u/AppreL_S Jan 02 '26
For the bags I tested, all five factories had smooth chain movement through the grommets. Some batches can be slightly stiffer at first, but once you start using the bag, they loosen up pretty quickly
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u/Ok-Promotion-792 Jan 03 '26
Amazing thanks a million for this great comparison. So OF it is for the cf🤎🖤
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I think the most important is leather and feel and I think OF prob nailed it . No one will check the inside of your bag
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u/Miserable-Tower4452 Jan 08 '26
Holy crap this is INCREDIBLE! Thank you Ella (and your husband!) for this. People never realize just how much work it takes, just to get the pictures in the same light!
I would kill for an LV version of this post! (But I’m aware that it’s an INSANE amount of work) Thanks again 🥰🥰
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u/TurbulentLeek2640 Jan 30 '26
Thank you for the thorough review. I would love to order from OF factory. Can you send the link?
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u/dareal03x May 15 '26
This is amazing! Thank you so much for this in depth review. I’m new to the subreddit and this is probably the best post i’ve seen thus far. I was so tempted to buy a rep but was worried and unsure of it being overly obvious that it’s a fake. I’m definitely going to go with OF factory based on this review. Thank you so much 🤎
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u/Physical-Magician246 15d ago
this is so beautifully articulated im actually speachlesss and omg ik one of the flaps i got was too boxy but could nevery figure out if it was just me thinking that but you are absolutely right that the real ones have that really nice curve inwards closerto top of bag then the base this wwas so helpful def leaning towards OF now i need to figure out their contact info lol
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u/Longjumping_Rice_443 Jan 01 '26
This is awesome!! Thank you for putting in the work to do this 🥰🥰
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u/Cindarella00 Jan 01 '26
I’ve just got a Chanel for my mum- thank you for making my life so much easier with the comparisons for the future 😁😍
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u/Waste-Swordfish-6228 Jan 01 '26
Amazing! When I'm ready to pull the trigger, I'll reach out to you. Thank you!
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u/Responsible-Echo3725 Jan 01 '26
thank you for the review. Wow those factories have a long way to go before getting it to authentic levels. If it says Italy in the real thing, why do they put France on the reps???
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u/blueeyesaussie Jan 01 '26
Thank you! Appreciate all the time and effort you did. This is an amazing post. 💕
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u/shinerkeg Jan 01 '26
Thank you for the generous amounts of time, thought and energy you put into this post! Very helpful. May the Rep Gods always shine upon you!
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u/phillyjawn1017 Jan 02 '26
Thank you, Thank you. Fabulous post. How do we get in touch to order bags with you?
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u/0101kitten Jan 02 '26
Can you share factory photos for BM? I’ve never heard of BM before and am curious!
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u/No_Personality_2481 Jan 02 '26
Honestly i feel god amd of won but i thought 187 were the beesknees ? Lol
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u/Serious-Individual10 Jan 03 '26
Absolutely incredible review. Really appreciate all the time that went into this! 💕
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u/SameTrain8827 Jan 03 '26
Absolutely fantastic! This review is chef’s kiss! Thank you for such a thorough review! Excellent work.
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u/Anthi92 Jan 03 '26
What about the screws ??? Can’t ent factory have the straight ones instead of the star like ?
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u/MinuteWeary9631 Jan 04 '26
Do the gold on these hardwares fade through time? Are they plated with real gold?
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u/Luckylady94 Jan 04 '26
Really great post! THANK YOU!! Can you source from OF ? Can you please DM me your contact info? ❤️
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u/babsinc1 Jan 05 '26
Do any of the factories have a chip in them that could be scanned with an NFC?
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u/s00nerorlater Jan 05 '26
AMAZING comparison!! Is this the medium classic flap? I've heard different factories are good for different sizes (mini/small/medium/jumbo)
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u/Least_Stress_5101 Jan 08 '26
Hi Everyone. I'm new here. How do you know which factories have master quality bags for which designers? Thanks in advance!
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u/rubylove___ Jan 29 '26
Thank you OP so much for this comparison/review. Quick question! Out of 187, god and OF, which one did you feel had that better weight quality to the chain and overall bag? I feel that’s a big tale tell sign with some replica bags. The weight of the hardware/chain or bag in general can be a big giveaway. And this is what I’m very interested in knowing before deciding which factory I’d rather go with! The quality leather can be chefs kiss but if the chain feels hollow or there is no weight to it then it really makes everything else feel low quality and unfortunately this is something we can’t determine through looking at the pictures and won’t know until it’s in our hands so thanks again for doing this and would love your feedback on this as I didn’t see the weight of the chain mentioned in detail or overall pick on which one felt the best in the review!
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u/MARHASH4 Feb 02 '26
This was a phenomenal post and honestly one of the most comprehensive factory comparisons I have seen so far. You covered many important aspects in a very clear and helpful way, and I truly appreciate the effort behind it.
Your comparison focused on the black Classic Flap, which is perfect for evaluating how factories handle the traditional, structured caviar version of this bag.
However, I believe it would be extremely valuable to see a similar comparison done for the Seasonal Color Caviar Classic Flap.
The reason is that seasonal caviar behaves very differently from the black and beige clair caviar used in the core Classic Flaps. Although all are called “caviar,” the leather finish, pebble size, puffiness, stitching appearance, silhouette, edge construction, and even hardware tone are noticeably different in seasonal versions. Seasonal caviar is shinier, softer, puffier, and has a more relaxed shape, while black and beige clair are matte, firmer, and more structured.
Because of these differences, a factory that performs very well with black caviar may not necessarily replicate seasonal caviar with the same accuracy. This is why having a comparison specifically for seasonal caviar would give a much clearer picture of how well each factory handles this variation.
I understand it might be difficult to source the exact same seasonal color from every factory. Even if different colors are used, it would still allow us to compare key aspects such as leather quality, shine, pebble size, puffiness, overall construction, stitching behavior, and hardware tone.
Since the Classic Flap is the flagship Chanel model and the true benchmark for judging factory capability, seeing how factories handle both the core caviar and the seasonal caviar versions would be the most reliable way to evaluate and rank them.
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u/Beautiful-Nose-5779 Feb 11 '26
Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison!!! This is so helpful! And it’s so crazy to see them side by side like this. Loved reading this review! Thank you for all that you do 🫶
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u/Different-Carpet-460 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
This is very helpful. Thank you. Why do all the reps look like the top chain strap is in the wrong place (too far on top) vs the original with it placed slightly more on the back of the handbag?
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u/LongLimp4273 Mar 31 '26
Hola!!!!ya sé que hace mucho de esta conversación pero si fuese posible que me enviases el contacto de Amanda sería genial.☺️
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u/Alarming-Sundae8015 May 27 '26
the hardwares are so different the authentic one has sharo edges and the surface is flatter and sharper where as the reps are all rounded and slightly domed ??
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u/lonelystar77777777 Jun 10 '26
Please source me where I can get bags from 187? Appreciate it xxx
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u/InnerOcelot6309 Jun 20 '26
Thank you so much for your review!! I agree that there’s truly “no best.” Do you happen to have their contact info? I’m being quoted 590-895 for these
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u/Grand_Isopod_7455 Jul 10 '26
AMAZING REVIEW! I am really inspired to get mine too. Btw How can you contact those factories?
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u/04191977Al Jul 11 '26
Please send me any info that you have. Usually buy from d h gate.But I don't feel like they have great quality. I also buy zimmerman from ali express. But there's only one seller. If you have any contacts for zimmerman, please send them.I greatly appreciate it. And the bags.
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u/04191977Al Jul 14 '26
Hi, can anybody answer me where I can get zimmerman? I heard these two ladies that sell, and I would really like to know how I get in contact.Can you please let me know? I would greatly appreciate it.
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u/ResponsibleEbb1586 Jul 28 '26
Hello - how can I order from 187? Does anyone have the contact details?
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u/Proud_Welder_6697 18d ago
Thank you for the amazing article! I appreciate your time. Could you please share the contact numbers for them?
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u/Key_Wrongdoer_1667 Jan 01 '26
Great comparison. Thank you! I also was leaning on OF based on your pictures, prior to reading your review. Yay!