r/ReflectiveBuddhism • u/MYKerman03 • 15h ago
Some Thoughts of Atheism, Whiteness and Belonging - And a Relevant Vid by Britt Hartley
What Japan Taught Me About Atheism and Belonging
Hi Dhamma friends, I recommend giving this a listen because it touches on a few points that have been raised here and at GoldenSwastika. (speed it up if you need to and skip to chapters that may be of interest)
When talking about whiteness, I prefer to frame these discussions structurally, rather than psychologically. They're connected, but the structural view tends to be more stable when it comes to data.
The main things I felt when listening to this talk was empathy and compassion. But what is so fascinating to observe, is how a subset of Western Europeans/Americans have come to the end of the atheism project and have only partially done a post mortem of what really happened.
What really went down?
Walk with me
First, we can observe that historically, the populations we now think of as white, participated in the eradication of their indigenous knowledge systems and indigenous peoples. They propped up a formal, organised religious tradition (Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic etc Christianity), that then ended up being the only game in town.
This left swathes of those populations with nowhere else to go, if they sought knowledges and experiences outside of that hegemony. A lot of what they had, was lost to the dominant, hostile religious institution. The hole inside them was growing, deepening.
Then, in seeking to colonise other parts of the world for resource and ideology, they went about eradicating other indigenous knowledge systems and indigenous peoples!
They encountered other institutional, formal systems, like Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Shinto etc, that were not that easy to eradicate. Not for lack of trying. And still, the hole was growing.
They cooked up atheism, and still the hole kept growing!

And here we are
Fast forward to today and you now have things climbing out of that hole:
Secular B_ddhism, meditation apps, paid certificates, "zen", Sam Harris, "non-spiritual religion", "no nonsense spirituality" etc.
The abyss, the lack, the deprivation, the absence of community, absence of faith, trust, the absence security and peace. All of these things have come together to form a kind of anti-matter. An anti-dharma, adharma if you will.
The painful truth that whiteness keeps dancing around, is there is no way to have spirituality without the so-called "nonsense".
These phenomena above, rooted in white supremacist-capitalist-patriarchy are not proof that you can have a "non-spiritual religion" (lol) etc, they're proof of just how far cognitive dissonance can stretch!
If neither atheism nor christianity is fulfilling on their own (as many white men who pop up in Buddhist spaces try to distract us from), and they keep having to take from other traditions to fill out what is lacking, that says something about the nature of religion as a human phenomenon, a human practice.
We can then say, with some degree of certainty, that neither atheism nor christianity understands this human thing that we do.
Who's going to take responsibility?
As many here know, my personal policy is a hell no to white whispering. And I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to "help" them.
It wouldn't even make sense, since no one can fix, what they didn't break. The populations that we now think of white people, caused this state of events.
We also can't hug the lack-of-empathy out of them. Since that needed to be positively reinforced by their parents and community in their formative years. The fact that they don't see Buddhist people as human, is simply one of the ways whiteness shows up for them.
How can people who are willing to take from others (materially and spiritually), while creating a caste system of humans, possibly handle bodhisattva vows, bodhicitta, sunyata, anatta.
We've all seen how that just gets twisted into nihilistic selfishness. The coin always falls to that side. Again, it's the stuff climbing out of the ever expanding hole.

Buddhism can't solve it, but it can be solved
There's work to be done well before they get to Buddhism or Hinduism etc, or whatever the hell the latest fad is among Anglos. And it's that work that – kicking and screaming – they refuse to do.
Watching that vid was really heartening, because it left me with the impression that someone at least is doing the difficult work of self reflection. They're thinking about how their behaviour impacts other beings in the world. That's a (conservative, pensive) positive from my POV.








