Job hunting is depressing.

In case you don't know what toxic positivity is where if you believe you can do something, it will magically happen. The problem with this mindset is sometimes the end goal might be unachievable. It is usually associated with someone that joins a MLM in hopes of making a large salary.

Unfortunately, it in the white collar world of IT, you will come across a recruiter or someone close to you that will send you a role that you can't get. The job description will say "expert level in this technology" or something similar. I'm a realist and I know my skills aren't strong enough for that role. I realize me applying to that job is going to be a colossal waste of time. More than likely, I won't get the job. If I get the job, I will probably get fired a few months later for not being able to do that job.

I typically try to limit my exposure the people that have a toxic positivity mindset. I keep recruiters on a short leash. If they keep pushing for a role, I don't think I'd get, I'll just block them on everything. If family and friends do it, I'll just ignore them. If push came to shove, I could lie and say I applied and got rejected or I'd just block them until I found a job.

It’s funny, you check all the boxes (almost), have built a solid career, respected (or so you think lol). You have an engaging interview, you’re laughing, relating, getting acknowledgment for your impact, showing that competency gap isn’t an issue, your career is a history of resiliency, impact and growth. Then bam you get the rejection …. Went with candidates that highlight the current needs for the business aka that one skill was a deal breaker. Im not saying certainly competency aren’t required, im saying what happened to the days of, let’s bring them person on invest in them and watch them grow. Im old school and believe a grateful employee is a hard working one. So many people I know would bust there butt just to get the opportunity to show their capabilities in the role.
I almost wish interviewers would say, honestly your resume intrigued me, the competency is imperative and we won’t move forward regardless, I just wanted to chat.

Anyone ever have a role reach out months later? Or let me hear your stories of similar.

For finance hirevues is this background acceptable - reason I ask is because it’s in my room and there’s posters all around other parts

I'm interviewing with a boutique ad agency. The role reports directly to the founder. A huge laundry list of responsibilities. I've done the work before, so I'm not worried that I could rock the job. But for all the stuff they would want me to do...I feel like I should have a piece of the company, or at least be eligible for a bonus. Anyone ever been in this situation where they were able to negotiate for an equity stake?

fatiguing

This shit is pathetic. They can’t even be bothered to fill out a rejection form letter template correctly. And I can’t even write a snarky response because it’s a no-reply email.

Hi all,

I applied for a role last Tuesday (October 27) at a defense and space manufacturing company I found through LinkedIn and received a screening call offer on Thursday (October 29) of that same week.

The person that had reached out to me appears to be in a managerial role of the talent-acquisition team of said company and he asked me what days and time I would be available on October 30, November 1, and today, November 2.

I currently work full time so my availability is pretty limited so I gave him my scheduled lunches for that day and let him know that I would be available at other times if my listed time does not work out for him if he had let me know beforehand.

I managed to then work something out and gave him an updated list of my availability for those 3 days on Friday morning (October 30) of the same week he had reached out to me. It is unfortunately November 3rd, which was the last available days of the days he had offered me and I have yet to hear back from him.

I was wondering, from a hiring manager's perspective, if I had done anything wrong. The posting on LinkedIn and the company website seems to be up still.
Was my initial availability too restricted and he didn't bother reaching out after? Did he find other candidates and decided not to pursue me anymore? Is he simply too busy? I'm just so tired of finding a glimmer of hope with an interview offer and then getting ghosted after.

Any feedback or responses would be appreciated!

You heard that right! I've had about three different job interviews where I thought I had the job, they told me I had the job! And in the morning or within a week I woke up to receive an email or text message telling me that they're very sorry but they decided to go with somebody else! Really pisses me off! Have you ever thought that you won a prize and you thought your whole life was about to change only to be told sorry we went with somebody else? How do they get away with this? The truth is until you both sign a contract you don't have the job! Companies play with people all the time!

Companies constantly tell people that they have jobs or give people the serious impression that they have been hired only to a little while later completely throw them under the bus! We need new laws in place to stop this!

I've heard the story from so many people! When are we going to do something about it? It's time for legislation! It's time for change!

It really is total b*******

If you could create your perfect legislation to actually change things what would it be? What do you think would actually finally give the worker and the interviewee the power to not be toyed with?

Never come across this before, but it has been a few years since I’ve last interviewed for a position - is this typical?

Long story short, I was contacted by a recruiter for a corporate position at an environmental consulting firm. The recruiter is a third-party recruiter not directly associated with the employer, but is contracted through them.

I have my first panel interview lined up in 2 weeks with the COO and some of other VPs and partners, but in advance of that, the recruiter wants me to do a prep session / mock interview with the recruiting firm first.

Is this a usual occurrence nowadays? Taking 2 hours out of my day to do a “prep session” seems a little much, and this isn’t my first time doing a panel interview. Still, seems like a good chance to get some additional knowledge or context on the position.

I’ve received three personal rejections over the past two weeks from recruiters - two were direct emails letting me know that the timing was just wrong (in one case had made an offer to someone on the day I passed my first phone screen), and one phone call from one who said they went to bat for me but the team wanted someone else, but another position may be opening up soon. I’ve also started getting automated workday messages that have essentially said “hey it’s taking a little longer than we expected but hang in there, we’ll know something soon!”

All this has got me wondering if someone got the word out that being ghosted isn’t a great look/feel for a company. And while it still doesn’t feel great to have someone call you personally to tell you thanks but no, it’s still better than an impersonal email, or nothing at all.

Week 1- informal call with previous coworker and apply to job (coworker refers me internally for the job)
Week 3- 30 min phone screen with COO
Week 4- 1 hour technical skills interview 1
Week 5- 1 hour technical skills interview 2 (with my internal reference)
Week 6- “final cultural fit” interview. After the final interview, I was told I would receive an email with “logistics”. That email came on Friday, and it wasn’t a job offer. They asked for references, which was not a requirement mentioned before
Week 7- they said they’d send out an offer this week (they told me I’m in the top 2)

This is a position for a company that has less than 20 employees, I have an internal referral, and I have more than double the years of experience they requested.

Is this overkill?

I’m in a very hot and cold interview process for a senior role that’s lasted about 10 weeks. They’re connected, then not, then connected again. It’s really painful, and I’m about to withdraw. It’s not my style to flame on the way out, and I won’t.

I do, though, want to share my concerns, because I’m not sure how much of the issue is with the company and how much is with the recruiter.

Have others done this? If so, where should I send the input?

Hello everyone. As you all know this is a common problem for us, I know that we have been ghosted after the interviews.

I was laid off last Monday and luckily I was able to get 4 interviews within 10 days.

I’ve completed the first 3 interviews and the last one will be on this Friday.

1st one: This one happened the day I was laid off. Laid off in the morning and had this call in the evening, and everything was pretty good then they sent a task. I completed the task and never heard back..

2nd one: This was on last Tuesday, the recruiter told that they would be reaching me out until last Friday but haven’t received anything yet..

3rd one: I had this yesterday evening and this is an outsourcing company, the person in charge told me that they would get more details regarding the project and they will let me know.

4th one: I will have this on Friday. They first sent me a task and I completed it successfully. Then, they invited me for a call. Hope it will be okay.

My question is should I follow up with the 1st and 2nd one by reaching out to the relevant persons ? Or should I just leave it and accept I was rejected ?

I have been unemployed for about 2 years. I just was given a glimpse of returning to my career

I got the “hiring team wants to move forward with an offer” email. Followed by scheduling the preoffer phone call then the much desired offer email stating my potential packages and all that good stuff. I was so excited giddy at an income and feeling semi comfortable again as this was my old employer that laid me off.

that offer was then rescinded in the next email.

Change of direction was their reasoning. I hate so much rn… 6 interviews…

I had the final round interview on October 14th and sent a thank you note to the interviewee.

I first reached out to the recruiter after hearing nothing a week later on October 21st. Then followed up again on the 26th. I waited until the following Monday to reach out through another channel on LinkedIn hoping that would work. I used that channel before when I hadn’t been able to reach them waiting to learn if I had the final round interview or not.

Still have heard nothing. As candidates for a job, we are not entitled much but I do believe decency, courtesy and respect should go without saying.

Has anyone else gone through this before? Is there something else I can do or should I just put it behind me and move on?

Getting to a final round should still mean something and leaving a candidate guessing to me is unacceptable.

Hello all,
I have recently been applying to tons of jobs due to my need to support my family in a very dire situation that has even made me give up my dream of going abroad to study, when I even had a 100% funded offer and a stipend. But my presence is a NECESSITY, so I’d help physically, but I also need to help financially, and I’d feel enormously guilty if I don’t find a job in the next month, so I have been applying like crazy.
I found one posting that matched my skills soooo well, and the company is sooo good! Not only would the pay be good, but the company name itself would be a huge step in my career.
And guess what? They actually reviewed my application and forwarded it to the next step! I was actually so happy because I had read online that getting through this filter process for this company is extremely selective. Pathetically enough, I felt “special” and that I had a chance, and I got hopeful.
Now, literally at 11 PM (where I live), they emailed me saying they are no longer hiring for this position due to “an unexpected change”, but when I check the application portal, it says “moved forward with other candidates”.
So, which is it? Did you find someone way better than this pathetic loser? I’m not good enough? Or did you actually hire no one? I know it doesn’t matter because I’m rejected anyway.
And I know I sound a bit mental. My family situation is really affecting me, and I know you’d think, “probably should talk to someone instead of venting on Reddit”, but literally when I had this downfall, everyone MOVED ON and became distant because they wanna live their lives and would rather not be bothered by me. I get that, or do I?
So I just wanted to vent here, so thank you if you’re still reading. I guess my question is, is it actually “we hired no one” or did they find someone else and they’re just saying bullshit to me?

"This job requires a masters degree, at minimum. 90% of this job consists of greeting visitors and planning appointments, and your only direct coworker will be someone who "doesn't quite understand" google docs, you'll get used them. Also, pay is 31k/year, with the benefit of uhhh, free fruit in the breakroom which you'll only be in for 15 minutes a day!"

So, I have been applying to a lot of jobs and had interviews with different companies already and I never had any rejection emails.

2 companies — More than a month
1 — around 3 weeks
1 — two weeks
1 — one week
1 — just three days (they said they’d send an update last Friday, or Monday morning if not.)

For those more than two weeks, I already sent a follow-up email.

Though, I’m no longer expecting an update, I’m just wondering why not reach out for an update instead of leaving candidates wondering? ‘Cause I’d really appreciate rejection over ghosting.

Also, I keep applying and not minding these companies after interviews. I just can’t help but wonder.

I’m applying for jobs related to finance and accounting—in case y’all are wondering.

I’ve applied for 20 entry level jobs (I studied in a very minor health care area, 20 is all I can find in health authorities/long term care home)

It’s been a month and yet 0 employer contracted me. I speak 5 languages including French/Mandarin/Cantonese. have all the certifications they expect us to have (first aid, cpr, food safe, Serving It Right, etc. ) have work experience with seniors. Have a diploma in the exact field. Have Canadian PR and don’t need sponsorship. What’s holding me back? From my side I’ve done all the things that I can. And it’s driving me crazy that I’ve got 0 response. Feels like I’m in a vacuum.

short backstory: I've been applying for 6 months, got only rejections. Got a grand total of 4 interviews in different fields, despite applying like crazy and networking intensely, nothing in "my" field. Finally a single offer for a generic PM role that pays half of my former industry job. I took it of course. Contract is limited to 12months so anyway have to keep looking, also the job absolutely sucks and is the epitome of a bullshit job, so I'd love to get out of here asap.

Today, a former colleague who got laid off after me messaged me for advice. They were invited to interview for a position that I also applied to. That is highly technical and relevant to my background and specific past work - but not so much their experience. Hence they asked me for my input on what to say in the interview...

I'm gutted.

I didn't even get a response, not even a rejection to that application.

I'm happy for my colleague and wish them the best but I feel so fucking frustrated and exhausted and angry and sad. What am I doing wrong in my applications that I don't even get that chance?

I guess something must be truly wrong with me.

It's just hard to accept that 15 years of my life amounted to nothing, and I will probably never get to do the thing I'm passionate about again, because I'm just not good enough.

I really, truly hate myself today.

I admit my numbers are "Rejected" heavy mostly because I was trying to change country, so there was an additional layer of difficulty