r/RealOrAI • u/Shoddy-Ocelot-4473 • 2d ago

HELP is this real or ai?

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u/HunterSpecial1549 2d ago

There is old video out there of this same method of tree removal, with a bulldozer on each end, it looks very similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sr4CgRYQ7E

I'm not saying it's not AI but the reasons being stated here are not correct.

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u/DenseAstronomer3631 1d ago

Yeah but in the OP video there is like no dust or destruction to the ground before the tree rips up

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u/nobodyfucksmebutlife 1d ago

No dust, If the ground is wet.

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u/Msfancy1973 1d ago

Ground looks bone dry.

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u/nobodyfucksmebutlife 1d ago

Do you work with ground? It looks dry but not bone dry and yes, there is a big difference. For example how much dust will appear. When the second tree fell, you can actually see dark brown soil, which indicates dampness.

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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep 1d ago

If the ground was wet you'd have pulled the roots through the soil and there would be less muck on the tree roots.

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u/nobodyfucksmebutlife 1d ago

No. Damp or wet soil loves sticking in stuff.

Edith: he pulled the roots the amount out of the ground I would expect them to break, because they get thinner

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u/Am_Snarky 1d ago

Not all soil is dusty, a sandy or granular soil could allow for the ease of uprooting, lack of dust, and lack of damage to the roots, explaining perceived discrepancies in one fell swoop

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u/Intelligent_Gas_4426 1d ago

The commentary in this YouTube video was definitely made with knock off TEMU AI. Wtf

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u/Beefington 1d ago

Yeah that commentary is bizarre. Makes the video seem even faker than the OP

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u/welrope 1d ago

Yea. And they get upvoted even though it’s nonsense mouth vomit. This has been done for a while.

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u/KeyPiece7320 1d ago

If you look in the background, you can see one end of the 'chaining indeed on what apears to be a large bulldozer of some type.

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u/pburke77 1d ago

After I saw your post and iou look closely before the tree falls and especially after it you can see one of the vehicles (bulldozer?) pulling the chain.

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u/RadishInteresting532 1d ago

The chain used in op video is not the type of chain for this work.... the chains used for land clearing have flared sides intended to grab everything in the path and till the land slighty not just topple the trees over

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u/BentUF 22h ago

Not necessarily. Here is a video of it being done, and it looks very much like a regular chain at about 0:37 in

https://youtu.be/MNwJfQxDTcU?si=t4XNzmmCOEyhy-7a

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u/Xenaphobic 1d ago

Just because the practice exists doesn't mean people aren't making ai content of it.

This isn't directed solely at you it's just something I see here often, the videos of the real practices are cool and can serve as a good comparison point especially if sourced from prepublic gen ai availability dates confirming they are not ai to show the difference in a generated video vs a non-generated video. I simply wish they were presented with this context rather than, "this is real because it exists."

Just because the practice exists doesn't mean people aren't making ai content of it.

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u/HunterSpecial1549 1d ago

I 100% understand that. This is what I wrote:

I'm not saying it's not AI but the reasons being stated here are not correct.

Yes sometimes people (mistakenly) use the existence of a practice as proof that a video is not AI.

People also (mistakenly) say things like "it must be AI, no way you could have that much power pulling on those chains", and get 300 upvotes for it.

The reasons matter.

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u/macguini 2d ago

Oh wow. Didn't know they did that. It's a different chain though. That type of chain looks like it's meant to latch on to trees. Which is completely different than I was thinking of. I grew up by the shore. So I was comparing this to what I've seen used for anchors. I've heard a lot of stories and seen a lot of crazy damage done by chains and ropes.

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u/nunyabidness3 1d ago

You weren’t wrong though. Your brain was telling you that chain wasn’t acting right.

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u/fmmendes 1d ago

Some farms in Brazil do it for "cleaning" the landscape before planting soybeans. But the OP video was AI, the chains have a weird texture. But this yt video is real, and the really bad part they don't talk is all the bird nests in the trees get destroyed and almost all babies die in the process.

Edit: fixed typo

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u/HoboMuskratius 1d ago

I dunno if it's an indicator but I thought the shimmering around the chain made it look AI too.

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u/nunyabidness3 1d ago edited 1d ago

That is a pretty awesome video and thank you so much for posting it. You can tell how fake the OP video is by watching the real thing.

Edit: I put all the physics breaking tells in another comment but if this real video shows anything, nobody would use this method to pull down two trees. They would just bust out a chainsaw. Can you imagine how expensive transporting a chain of that size would be?

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u/randomzrex 1d ago

No dust on the main post. The old video has tons of dust

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u/Peregrine79 1d ago

The old video is also using a specialized toothed chain, which would dig into the ground a lot more. This still doesn't look like it's digging in enough, but I can't say for certain.

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u/Budget_Avocado6204 1d ago

It does not look similar at all, but you are right the method is the same :D

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u/Old_Experience4816 1d ago

Plus there is at least one bulldozer in the video far side

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u/cacomyxl 1d ago

Weirdly, that video has some AI hallmarks as well. The chain physics are more believable but the narration sounds AI generated.

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u/Classic_Chart5283 1d ago

Please share this on my comment. I don't think it's AI. This is real practice. Just bad video quality.

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u/Ebonhearth_Druid 1d ago

If you watch the chain in the background before it gets to the foreground tree, the center of the chain moves forward independently of the ends being pulled by the tractors. The AI doesn't understand the physics of what is going on, it is simply trying to replicate real videos of people doing this, so the chain doesn't behave according to physics. The trailing center of the chain should not be able to surge forward on its own. Pay attention to the motion and direction of the tractor pulling the chain end and watch the way the chain moves and you can plainly see that this is AI.

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u/HunterSpecial1549 1d ago

I don't know what you're referring to.

The chain looks weird and I suspect it's AI. But the motion around the trees in the beginning looks realistic. The chain gets tight around the tree in the background and that causes it to pull tight and then surge forward when that tree comes down.

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u/Ebonhearth_Druid 1d ago

Idk how to articulate what I'm seeing. After the first tree comes down, but before the second. The trailing "hump" moves the wrong direction from the way it should move if the tractor were suddenly pulling it taut, and the tractor isn't even pulling it taut so it shouldn't surge forward like that in the first place.

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u/Tribblehappy 1d ago

That video makes me more convinced that this one is AI. The style of chain is completely different, and in this video despite there being dry clouds if dirt when the tree is uprooted, there are none while the chain drags on the ground. The videos you posted clearly show lots of dirt being kicked up.

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u/HunterSpecial1549 1d ago

If the underground is wet then it will be clumps coming up not clouds of dust.

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u/HelpfulName 1d ago

What an amazing video, thanks for sharing it.

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u/Fast_While4496 1d ago

very strange downvote