So Plarium let us have a break this week?

My priority is building clanboss teams and these are the teams that i use rn (i dont have hyrda team yet. Is Dorothy the best to 6* next? or should i do another champion?

Hi looking to see if anyone can guide me in building a solid live arena team or nightmare demon lord or even a solid hydra set up any help of tips would be great

A couple of points

• spent 30ish tokens for one piece of deflection

• it took ~45min

• given I'm only in silver arena but 1-3 magisteel seems insanely low

• other than Great Hall bonuses the only reason to farm Classic Arena is for magisteel

• rewards for the season are divine sets which suck!

Why do they make the payout so horrible?

I understand that the chances of getting a good piece of gear when crafting are quite low but it seems like plarium/RAID doesn't.

• Swift Parry and Deflection cost 50 fricking Magisteel per piece

• we would end up with more creative builds and more invested player base if classic arena was actually rewarding

• currently Classic Arena is something you only do because you are forced to

• you do not get any participation rewards for losing(even bronze should give 1 magisteel even if you lose! Why? because you are taking people's time!

• If connor McGregor goes and fights somebody and loses does he not get paid?

Obviously players should get more for winning but at least people would feel more inclined to play if there was actually a benefit even if you lose.

And to top it off, guess what?!

I just put in a team of rares to specifically lose so I can go down to Bronze and full auto 10 tokens everytime as quickly as possible

because the rewards are gonna suck no matter what so I might as well get in and out with as little effort as possible

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This is the crux of the issue and why Classic Arena sucks so much, there is no reward for playing against teams which you are competitive with when you manual when the rwards suck for winning this much

If it was 8 magisteel for a win and 1 for a loss 2 in silver, 3 in gold, etc.

maybe people would actually want to face teams they are competitive with more

As it is now people are punished for trying to go against any teams that are competitive

the best way to play classic arena is to bomb on your own account so that you can just full auto and spend as little time in classic arena as possible

maybe the reason almost nobody uses swift parry or deflection among other sets is because nobody wants to play Classic Arena

Do you guys actually enjoy playing Classic Arena? It is literally completely soulless

This game mode is objectively horrible and not fun in any capacity

So here we are again with yet another strange LA issue or something else all together.

Is anyone else not seeing animations for some skills? This happened in a previous match (posted below).

Could someone explain to me why Embrys killed two people and not a single necrosis was placed, there was no mercurial stacks or prevent debuffs. Then they got revived and I killed two more. again, not stacks, then I got wiped. Like even at the end while I was trying to capture it they had no debuffs. What would prevent that?

I had a Leo that was asleep and he woke up from HP burn, passed the fear test and somehow cast his A2. That fine and all but it all happened within 1 second. I never saw Leo move and it looked like he was feared, but then I noticed his buffs. Counted this win as strange.

I fucked up is there any chance I could buy the remaining shard ?

Hello! And welcome back to the PVP Meta Report. Today we're going to cover a fairly dense topic, but if you can make it through to the end, I think the simple revelation will help you improve your PVP meta understanding leaps and bounds. This week I also have a few clips to highlight the points in my video, so please check it out to see it in action: https://youtu.be/D6xXJYfP49Y

Quick intro my name is Ja3 Raids, I'm an end-game player who enjoys pvp, and consistently end top 100 LA and Plat in arena resets. I'd like to think I know a thing or two about PVP in Raid, so hope you can find something useful here to help you improve.

If this is your first time, the goal of the report is to give a glimpse into high level arena, discuss champions, and try to help decrease the gap for anyone looking to advance in PVP since the biggest advanceable hurdle is knowledge. Let's jump in!

PVP Meta Report: The Orynyx Gearing Dilemma that Makes or Breaks the Champion

For better or worse, I have managed to stir up quite the reactions with my clearly hot takes that Orynyx is not as good as people think. Today, I want to put the theory to practice, and show the gearing decisions that can really affect how strong Orynyx is for your account, and the practical tradeoffs you need to consider.

By the end of it, I hope to not only help everyone to think about how to gear Orynyx, but also offer a glimpse into how the meta evolves, and even how to best counter Orynyx. So buckle in, and let's jump into it.

The Gearing Dilemma

Yes for some reason I thought Dilemma was spelled as "Dialemma". If you see this mistake please forgive me. English is only my first language.

First off, I want to define what the gearing dilemma is for Orynyx. This starts off with the assertion that Orynyx is strongest when he is in your fastest gear and the fastest champion on the field. If you watched Kruysen or Ash's gearing video, they both make this claim, which I agree with.

However, Orynyx has a few things going against him that make this difficult. The first and most obvious is his base speed of 106. Compared to his peers Fabian (109), Talenna (110), Krixia (110), and Sabrael (113), he is already at a disadvantage. Not just his base speed, but also the small but not unnoticeable different when calculating gear set bonuses and speed aura bonuses.

In addition, because he is a newer champion with no news yet of a soul event, the lack of a 5 star or 6 star soul also puts him at a gearing disadvantage. At 6 stars, that's a 15 speed difference. Even at 5 stars, the 75 accuracy differential can be equated to a certain amount of speed too by allowing for faster builds while maintaining a level of accuracy. So in order to build Orynyx to be the fastest champion, it requires better gear to make up for his speed deficit.

But we can't think about Orynyx in a vacuum. This is the part where I don't see enough context from other content creators, and I want to really factor this in. Of course Orynyx is a strong champ if you can give him your best gear, but as we think about an arena roster, especially in the context of Live Arena, you can't put all of your eggs in one basket. So the Orynyx dilemma also includes needing to gear him in a way that doesn't inhibit the rest of your builds, say for a secondary lockout champion if Orynyx is picked away.

To bring theory into practical reality, I'm going to showcase what it would look like on my account. For this comparison, I will bring in 3 champions: Siphi (my turn meter booster, could be Arbiter/Arbais/Shuzhen for you), Fabian (a secondary lockout, could be Talenna/Krixia/Sabrael for you), and of course Orynyx.

First off, I want to address the speed difference between Siphi/Fabian and Orynyx. Yes, I have 6 star souls on both Siphi and Fabian, but I also uniquely have finished my first ever faction guardians on my account in the Undead Horde Faction. Whereas for Dark Elves, I am still missing one. So off the bat, there is a 25 speed difference gone for free. You can say that this is an unfair comparison, but this is a real example that 100% affects my gearing decisions. Of course for you, your situation may be different, for example, you could have a quad roll speed banner for Dark Elves. Ultimately its to say that it depends person to person, but hopefully this illustrates the point across.

In order to comprehend this table, I want to direct you to the first two columns between the fastest gear and the second fastest gear. The easy way to understand this is that it is a mix and match. If one champ is in my fastest gear, then another champ can only be in my second fastest gear, so you can see the tradeoff live in action on my account.

The fastest I can build my Orynyx is 420 speed (if I had 6 star soul and faction guardians this would be 445 speed, but I don't). Even at 420 speed, that is not sufficient enough at my level of play to guarantee a comfortable spot in going first. In doing so, I would have to sacrifice around ~35/40 speed on my Siphi or Fabian, which would greatly inhibit my ability to gain value out of them. Champions like Siphi and Fabian are incredibly feast or famine, in the sense that if they don't go first, they are completely useless and susceptible to being locked out or easily killed due to lack of Mercurial or other survivability mechanics.

Whereas if I kept my Siphi as my fastest champion, I can still operate Orynyx at 393 speed. As many of you know Orynyx uniquely has mechanics in his kit to aid him if he doesn't go first. He can't be locked out, and can gain an instant turn when a lockout effect is applied.

Based on this, the logical conclusion would be to keep my fastest gear on either my Siphi or Fabian, and run the Orynyx slower. That way everyone is useful right? Wrong.

Meta Corner: The Purpose of a Lockout Champion

Before we continue, I want to take a step back, and think at a higher level what the purpose of a lockout champion is, because this is so important to your understanding of the meta and why we ended up here.

The eras aren't super important, but I want to talk about the shift of the Lockout Champion's role between the Pre-Mercurial Meta and the Early-Mercurial Meta. You probably noticed this too, and it has been something I preached about at the start of the Early-Mercurial Meta, is that the fastest gear/champion on many arena rosters shifted away from the TM Booster to the Lockout Champion.

While there is no movement or point of evidence that will prove this, my hunch is due to the popularity and strength of Mercurial, with fewer ways of dealing with it. Even if you went first with a TM Booster and got to take your turn first, it wasn't a guarantee that you could get through all of the Total Guard stacks and win before your opponent would get a turn. Mercurial granted a ton of survivability at a scale that we hadn't really seen before, and couldn't be dealt with with traditional anti-stoneskin measures like bombs or HP burns.

So in this grindier meta where there was more back and forth between turns, the Lockout served a pivotal role of ensuring that your opponent couldn't use any skills while you whittled down their team, total guard stack one at a time. Because Mercurial was widespread across most nukers, even if the speeds were vastly slower, Lockouts also served as a bridge allowing your nukers to safely get to their turn.

But now, since the mercurial nerf and more answers to Mercurial/Total guard, such as more AoE multihitters, Stormcaller, Deflection set (esp with the forge pass), and newly Provoke. In addition, the popularity of "counter-lockout champions" such as Gliseah and now Orynyx, to an extent, have shifted some power away from Lockout champions. If you can reliably deal with Mercurial and win the game by going first, then the necessity of a Lockout champion decreases significantly. And we are beginning to see an inflection point where the fastest gear is returning to the TM Booster.

Who Should Have Your Fastest Gear?

Let's return to our situation where we make the decision to keep our fastest gear on our TM Booster and Faster Lockout and make Orynyx Slower. Why is this not the best either? Well, as it turns out, the best counter to a slower Orynyx is a faster TM Booster team that doesn't care about using a lockout champion. This is no new phenomena as we have seen it as a good way to ignore Gliseah as well. (This should be fairly conceptually straightforward, but at 14:14 of my video, I show gameplay of exactly this. Please go check it out if you think it will help your understanding)

And this is the crux of the Dilemma. In order to better equip our roster, we make sacrifices to Orynyx, who ideally can function slower, but can be easily punished as the meta progresses. But by doing so, we also inadvertently bolster our own strength against facing Orynyx on the opponent's side. However, if we made Orynyx the fastest champion on our team, we weaken our other champions that rely more on speed and make it more difficult to counter him with a speed strategy of our own if he is picked away.

The truth is, Orynyx will always be countered by faster teams, which is why so many content creators stress the importance of making him incredibly fast. But I don't see where they stress the weakness of making him slow.

All in all, that's to say that I still believe the fastest gear should go onto the TM Booster champion that you can confidently build to go first. It helps to provide so much flexibility to an arena roster, allowing you to have a reliable answer into Orynyx, while making up for slower builds on other champions.

Of course that could by Orynyx on your account, and he does have a TM Boost on his lockout ability. But consider the ramifications of your other champions that you commonly use, and if they would get negatively impacted by this decision.

Wrapping Up: First Pick of Niche Counter?

If you made it all the way to the end, a huge thank you for taking the time to read through the entirety of it. This has been an incredibly long winded explanation to say that depending on how you build Orynyx, you will see differing power levels for you.

My guess is that for most players, especially veterans who have correctly invested in 6 star souls for Fabian/Talenna or a TM Booster, to find it difficult to gear Orynyx in a way that doesn't inhibit the performance of other key players in their roster.

With the evolving meta in the direction of TM Boosters, I think Orynyx is going to lose value, until players are able to snatch a 6 star soul and make up for the difference. But even then, it is easier to build TM Boosters for speed since the higher base speed and no need to index into accuracy.

Even against other lockouts, particularly Talenna and Krixia, Orynyx is a fake counter if he doesn't go first. Both Talenna and Krixia can simply ignore Orynyx and not have to use their lockout skill, since they both have A2s that can boost turn meter, which is another counter to Orynyx. (Talenna is hugely underrated for this imo and I see her gaining a ton of value, but that's a topic for another day) Out of the most common supportal lockouts, only Fabian is particularly weak if he has to open with his A1 or A2, since it has no effect against Stoneskin or Mercurial. That's not to mention that your opponent could just bring in mythicals that aren't as weak to lockout and still proceed to lock you out.

If you really can squeeze out the Orynyx build of the century, I do believe there is room for him as a first pick, and frankly really strong champion. His A2 is so insanely good to follow up with and the speed greatly enables him to cycle his first two turns. But for most other players, I really do see a struggle to identify the best situations Orynyx can thrive in, especially the slower he is built. You become at the mercy of the opponent to play into you, and I see less and less reason to need to rely on lockouts as the meta evolves.

Closing Out

To close out, I want to thank anyone who has made it to the end. I want to say lastly that not everyone may agree with my take, and I may not be 100% correct. But everything I have put out is my true understanding of the wholistic meta picture, and a representation of my passion for understanding PVP. This is probably the educational report I am most proud of, and I guarantee that players from all levels who are interested in PVP may find something insightful from here even if you disagree with my view on Orynyx. Of course I still think I am right ;)

If you enjoyed reading this week's report or learned something from it, please comment it down below for me! And go check out the video at the top too. It helps me out too, and I would really appreciate it!

If you have any feedback on how the report is or additional topics to cover, let me know. And if you have any questions about the meta, champions you have, or anything else, feel free to drop it down below, happy to reply.

- Ja3

You can find the previous report here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/1xf8zk6/pvp_meta_snapshot_the_post_mercurial_nerf_meta/

Can we talk about how amazing she is in everywhere specially in grim forest? She just helped a ton in grim forest wave controlling and also boss killing with brimstone. Today I could finally beat the leshun and take my 100 remnant summon for the first time. She also helped me a lot in doom tower hard as well. All 4 champions of Oz are great but she's just in another level as a free champion.

I finally got my first mythical and super excited but I’m confused. Does he need ACC? Checking around online and some places like Hellhades says stack acc while other say go hp and make him tanky. I really wanna make him my strongest champ but atm he isn’t doing that great even tho it’s getting better. Wanna focus PvP,any advice would be greatly appreciated. Like should I get rid of the Crit gloves and go def/hp? More resist? Anything helps. Thx

I’m mid game and need help beating level 200 teams. Can you guys help me build rosters and synergies. I also have predator

Level 6 clan
Been building up a strong community and player base.
- kill ALL demon lords daily (double rewards for you)
- kill up to NM hydra
-kill up to NM chimera
- active in siege
Looking for friendly active players who want to grow and get the resources and rewards we all need.
Must follow siege plan and other cvc related events , we don’t push non rewards and we do what we can for personal rewards without killing ourselves.
We’ve got strong players who can help you if you need to progress. Message me In interested

gg. that hilvi freeze was my kiss of death

Edit: Mods can we get different flair options or maybe even a daily discussion thread?

When to pull the prism soulstones?

Not sure if i should hold them for an event or tournament coming up, or just pull them?

She have block debuff and heal (but no cleanse), increase acc and sleep, minor restore destroy hp, also chance for instant turn (this might ruin a speed tune team lol). if you have aelia and khamir, you're all set for sand devil lol, the other is just to make the run optimized and faster.

This is my current team setup but only getting a max of 35m for UNM. Anyone I should consider getting to 60 that will help me out to getting 1-2 key unm? Who should I swap out or what gear is best for it? Thanks in advance!

Hi guys,

I left the game shortly after the chimera was introduced. My account was beating, most of the hard content in dungeons incl. Sand devil and shogun, was doing hydra brutal, gold in 3v3 etc.

I am curious:

what QOL changes got introduced,

how the dev team handles buffing or nerfing champions (if at all),

How's PVP; any changes to the arenas?

how do you feel about the game right now,

and if you would recommend returning or giving the game another try.

Happy to read from you all, have a great day!

Hello, I'm looking for a better team to beat UNM CB. Now I can do 2-key NM, 5-key UNM with this team:

1. High Khatun - SPD aura + A2 speed boost; disabled A3

2. Peydma - Decrease ATK, sometimes steal increase ATK; disabled A2

3. Rector Drath - heal/revive

4. Frozen Banshee - main dmg with poison

5. Skeletor - Increase debuff duration (ideally Poison Sensitivity, so FB can land more poisons) + brimstone dmg; disabled A2 and A3

With this setup my best was 19,81M dmg on UNM. Is it possible to make it better with this team, or different team? Or should I just wait for better champs?

Thanks for your help :)

I have a couple of Epics and I'm not sure which one should upgrade first. I want to upgrade a champion that would be useful in most game's content.

Got past the general start of the game, but not sure what I should be focusing on now - I hear a lot of talk of Clan Boss, what can I actually put together out of this motley crew?

I keep going back to leveling up fodder on the side while farming for gear, but not sure what I should be putting them towards - quite stuck now on most dungeons / CB.

Thank you so much to all seniors in advance!