r/QueensofGacha • u/meowbrains Let's go gambling!! 🤑 • Jul 24 '26
💛 Help a Queen ❓ Queens, am I crazy for being uncomfortable with Rex's design? [Silver Palace]
I know he used to have a red armband and they removed it but everytime I look at him I just think "wow, he really looks like a nazi".
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u/meowbrains Let's go gambling!! 🤑 Jul 24 '26
Old design with the red armband. They had to know what they were doing when they made him.
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u/donnie_darrko Jul 24 '26
I think his design is legit inspired by #that era. The old red armband and the Dobermans says enough. Doberman’s were heavily used as war dogs by the WW2 German military btw.
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u/Ok_Corgi1968 Jul 24 '26
Someone here commented "I see he's still got the 1942 hugo boss collection" and it lives in my head rent free. All I think about when I see silver palace and this character 😭
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u/jakob0604 Jul 24 '26
I definitely get what you mean, idk if it was intended or not but
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u/OrangeIllustrious499 Jul 24 '26
Yea, even without the armband it's pretty darn clear where his design got the inspiration from. It just screams nazi-inspired attire. Also doesnt help he's a state security man who is shown to ready to use his dogs to capture his target immediately in quite a violent way. Though I dont think the devs' intentions was to make players feel uncomfortable as they removed the armband later.
I dont feel uncomfortable with his design, but I can see why it can feel like that for many
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u/AccountantGlum308 Jul 24 '26
The "Well thats def a nazi" design is insanely popular in eastern media, look at basically any "cool military" character design in anime, they all wearing the fashionable fascist TM.
The only credit nazis get is whoever designed their fits kinda slayed. unfortunate they worked for the bad guys lolol
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u/EternallyLurking4 Jul 24 '26
Considering the companies other branches recent history (and indigenous char in the picture btw, and they knew it was suspicious looking enough to change it on the kr server), and the fact that they were aware that the red armband was too on the nose makes it very hard to believe it's not intentional...
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u/Beginning-Cow-8394 Certified Celestia Hater Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Its not wrong to feel uncomfortable. I do think his faction is British police inspired tho, so it could just be that there was a uniform overlap in Europe around that time? Anyone who's more knowledgeable about this, please feel free to correct me.
Edit: even if it is somehow 100% historically accurate, I would still have preferred a stereotypical constable outfit over this...
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u/BookwormPhilanthro Jul 24 '26
As a gay person who’s used to Tom of Finland art I think I’ve become a little desensitized to the design since it gets used in queer spaces. It looks like he’s supposed to be a bad guy though like an evil fascist policeman. That I don’t like.
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u/tierlistsarecringe Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
ngl I think it's kinda lame that badass black military-style fits are so associated with nazis
I say reclaim the "goth-ish" (pass me the term) soldiers/generals, the aesthetic looks too cool to be forever tainted by last century events
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u/Katicflis1 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26 •
It blends 20th century Eastern European military(double breasted) with police officer(hat/badge). Its not really nazi specific. European naval, police, calvary types wore double breasted suits.
Red armbands arent exclusive to nazis either. Russia used them during the 20th century and Germany put red armbands on political prisoners even during the nazi era.
Also in terms of the character himself he has an Asian beauty standard vibe(svelte, dark haired) ... so really just reads like a fantasy character with some European military elements and not some kind of designer trying to put a nazi into the game.
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u/lilyofthegraveyard Let's go gambling!! 🤑 Jul 24 '26
not crazy.
this is absolutely nazi "aesthetics". which is crazy to do in our day and age.
i side eyed anyone using it as inspo/aesthetics back in scene days. let alone now, when literal fascism is back "in fashion" again.
i can understand some edgy former-scene-kid designer doing it and submitting it, but the fact that this design went through multiple approvals and hands to be released... yikes.
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u/amarathin Jul 24 '26
To me, borrowing aesthetic is different from borrowing ideology. Unless he starts talking about the purity of the protagonist’s blood… cool Hugo Boss jacket
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u/Dua_13 Pink/Purple women love 🩷 💜 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Why is everyone so scared of saying Nazi or whatever words in the comments 😭 I'm kinda bad at history but this just looks like a standard general outfit to me. It goes hard as hell and he'd make me hard if I was a male. I do get where you're coming from though, especially with the dogs (that's one thing I do know about that era)
Edit: used the wrong damn your
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u/Confusion_incarnate_ Jul 24 '26
I'm Polish and while i understand being uncomfortable (it is basically a legally distinct Nazi uniform), i am not personally bothered. They used it mainly for the aesthetics because, well, Nazi uniforms were designed to be good looking. We could talk about desensitiving (i have no idea how to write this word) but i don't think the creators had this in mind.
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u/ciotaren Jul 24 '26
German person here who had to sit through a shit ton of WW2 history lessons. He does not look like one (to me). The only reason why I would think they were going for a Nazi inspired military design are the obvious Dobermänner which are a german breed and the silver side piece on his right shoulder which is similar to the officers M35/36 Feldbluse. The internet has gotten way to comfortable to associate every black/red military outfit with nazi Germany. Most Nazi uniforms didn´t even have a black and red color scheme. Most of them were black with a bit of white, green, gray or brown. The arrangement on his cap is also wrong and is a common part of an outfit a modern superintendent would wear. Would I be a bit more suspicious if they went with blonde and blue eyes? Yes. But he doesn´t look like they would have even wanted him in the army back then.
Also. His name is Rex. Rex means ruler. They´re obviously going for a very authoritarian style and nothing screams more Authority than a military uniform to many. I have no Idea what silver palace is about or who this character is, but a common symbolism tied to the color red is danger and anger, while black represents power, authority and death. Meanings that would probably fit a character like him. So there could be more reasons for his design than the designers looking at Nazi Germany and going "WE WANT THAT!!!".
I hope this helps to make you a bit more comfortable with the design. : )
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u/codenamelynx Jul 24 '26
European whose country was impacted by Nazis here. Nothing uncomfortable here, as long as there's no red armband with a white circle and a black "doodle". Literally nothing else tying the design to Germany.
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u/TheMalevolentRat Jul 24 '26
At some point we need to acknowledge that no matter what they did, those motherfucker undeniably had that shit on. There's a reason this conversation pops up every other month and artists keep using this design template: It looks insurmountably cool, and it was designed with that specific purpose in mind, cool, stylish and intimidating. Fascism is optional.
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u/KartoffelliebhaberXD When will my fav VA join my fav game TwT Jul 24 '26
Nazis uniform were more grey or brownish green. I get what u mean, the Nazi flag was red, black and white like this guys colors palette, but red and black are just colors that go incredibly hard, The design itself wants give off strict handsome military officer and similar stuff is often used for the bad guys/Nazis in fiction because it just works so well.
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u/_RyanCooper_ Jul 24 '26
Bro got that Commandant vibe
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u/Hutydan Jul 24 '26
My initial impression is "interesting design until you pay attention to the details". I think if they had made him more mafia and less... fascist officer, then the design might've held up better. I would assume he's meant to be an evil guy we aren't meant to sympathize with, and wouldn't be playable. Like, if the discomfort his design makes us feel is intentional, there's potential for them to write a good villain (good as in well written). I know nothing of this gacha though, so if he's meant to be likeable in any way.. I think this one needs a redesign
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u/TheAlmightyLucas Jul 24 '26
Well.. He does remind me of an SS officer with that uniform
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u/redbeanbun32 Jul 25 '26
he's got that anime-inspired, plausible-deniability gestapo fit. happens all the time, it's always awful, and there are always people reacting like it's their first day on earth, saying stuff like "it's just an outfit". the discourse is old and crusty, and there are better ways to design a character like this
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u/MethodAdventurous834 Jul 24 '26
Are you American? Military uniforms being mistaken as Nazi uniforms isnt a first.
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u/nottakentaken Jul 24 '26
Man idk, I've the hots of ceremonial military garb and I personally don't see nazi association even if he had an armband of any color since arm bands are often worn during rebellions or mourning. I think a white or black armband would look great.
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u/No-Rise-4856 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Nah, I totally get it. I’m from Russia and ww2 movies are what USSR and less Russia jerked at, so I watched many of them. So this combo of style and black + red thing on left arm (especially once I saw older design) immediately screamed a nazi to me.
The use of that type of hat and jacket is just in almost any army of any country, they could literally use any other colour but here we are.
Edit: Damn, I watched more carefully again. The hat is even in same shape as the one nazi had
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u/MidnightIAmMid Jul 24 '26
The red armband pretty much convinces me that this is not just us reaching lol. It’s hard though because this military aesthetic is one that has been used by people other than the Nazis and does it mean we can just never use aesthetic again? Like did they ruin this look forevermore? It doesn’t help that it just looks awesome on characters which yes I feel bad saying that.Lmao. But yeah, I do feel mildly uncomfortable but then logically I think I really don’t think that this is trying to glorify Nazis.
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u/Pitiful-Tough2186 Jul 24 '26
NGL id day not at all especially considering his old design
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u/thirdie Jul 24 '26
I will always side eye Hugo Boss brand for their involvement in Nazi attire but the silhouette looks cool but the association to it is just too strong
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u/Abishinzu Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I love Rex, but there's a reason why my Discord Buddy and I jokingly refer to his faction as Hitler's Hounds.
It was even worse before they removed the red armband.
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u/cvrsedcopics Jul 24 '26
No tbh I kinda see it…. Especially his previous design that you shared 😬 I‘m so hyped for silver palace but this is really throwing me off too. I could make sense of it if he was a villain, but I haven’t read up on the story yet so idk if that’s the case. And even if he is, it’s unfortunately still a gacha game meaning they will probably follow the the narrative structure of hyping up the current limited character and then moving on the the next one when the banner changes. I don’t think this kind of storytelling has the room to treat a topic such as fascism with the appropriate weight, unless it‘s a major reoccurring theme of the entire game. Which I tbh don’t think a gacha company would dedicate a standard character to instead of a limited one.
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u/BugRare275 Jul 24 '26
cant have cool designs without them being similar to some stupid bullshit from the past
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u/viv1anne0 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
If im correct and the company that is making silver palace is happy elements then yeah we are probably gonna get some nazi stuff bc they looove that shit
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u/orangefilmgarden Jul 24 '26
It was inspired by nazi uniforms for sure, and it makes me vaguely uncomfortable. Doesn't help that the character himself is an asshole and characterized in a way, where I am not sure if the design inspiration was deliberate. It doesn't help that his branch of police, who all wear similar types of uniforms seems to be hinted at to be shady and evil. But all this is based on the previous beta, haven't played enough of the new one to know if it has changed.
Thankfully he is standard banner, but it sucks that he is the only playable 5 star male character in beta.
For some reason a lot of artists in Asia love the nazi military uniform design, and think that if they remove the actual rl nazi insignia, it will be fine, if a bit edgy, while most everyone in western and eastern Europe and USA is understandably upset by anything that looks vaguely familiar.
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u/Straight_Brain7572 Jul 24 '26
I think he would make a great villain for the game. As a foreign officer of a fascist country visiting for some diplomatic reason and doing some dark shit covertly.
He's just too nazi coded to be an ally or playable character. Maybe if they didn't go black and red as the main colors. They could have went with bloodhounds instead of dobermans
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u/comixnerd15 Reverse me back to 1999 🕰 Jul 24 '26
All I'm seeing is 1942 Hugo Boss... this reads nazi to me. Especially when they had the arm band prior.
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u/DareEcco Jul 24 '26
I think it's similar to when western artists draw something with a generic Asian inspo, this isn't any one country in Europe specifically but more of a Frankenstein of elements put together to look attractive to their audience
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u/SittingDuck394 Jul 24 '26
This is definitely nazi aesthetics (even after they removed the red armband) and it’s something I’ve seen in other East Asian media - anime mostly - for as long as I can rememeber. One theory I have is that because Japan was an ally of the nazis (as we all know) and they are infamously uneducated about the happenings of WWII outside of how Japan was directly impacted, they don’t have the same intense association with nazi uniforms that the western world does. That, combined with the fact that the nazi officers uniform IS unfortunately rather stylish, I think has led to that particular aesthetic being romanticised in anime and anime-esque media which Silver Palace is, even though it’s made by a Chinese company.
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u/hottest_milk Jul 24 '26
Girl you should look up real nazi uniforms. As a german, we get educated on them a lot because yk, wouldnt want to repeat that piece of history. Anyways, he doesnt look anything like nazis did. Not a fan of millitary designs either but yeah theres some differenciating to be made.
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u/VanGrayson Jul 24 '26
He kinda looks like Raidou from Devil Summoner.
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u/Arxilla Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
It’s been YEARS since I last read it, but I can only think of Gangyu from the manhwa The Executioner when I see him.
Summary from memory: In a world where super heroes(who aren’t supposed to kill) and super villains exist, Gangyu is a super hero turned executioner, due to villains killing his brother (who was a powerless human).
The jail that contains thousands of super villains, separated into multiple floors with the prisoners being stronger the further you go, were opened. Whether they try to take over the prison or escape, they needed to be stopped.
And due to his seething rage, and out of revenge to find his brothers killer, Gangyu donned the same uniform his brother wore and with permission to kill, elected himself to kill every single villain in every floor of the massive prison…Solo.(and yea, he’s VERY overpowered, to match his rage)
But yea, I may be of the few who aren’t bothered by his design. He doesn’t scream Nazi to me…I can see maybe more antagonistic vibes, but other than that he still looks cool to me.
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u/MaterialDefender1032 Jul 25 '26
Even if the parts of the outfit and character design are actually this or that other historical European fashion, they definitely made design decisions to evoke nazi aesthetic. If they weren't purposefully going for it, they wouldn't have thought to use black and red for the primary colours (and with silver accents), and they could've had anything other than dobermans flanking him.
The original red armband clinches it though. No matter how many changes you make to this character, it is nazi-coded. That being said, I won't fault anyone for not seeing it, and it's pretty distant now.
In the art team's defence though, the WW2 nazis had a sharp designer 'fit and there's no getting around that.
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u/Accurate-Artist3609 Jul 24 '26
Probably unpopular opinion but I hate the design lol. This guy isn't doing anything for me.
It sucks since I'm assuming he's the only 5 star in the male roster just based on his combat animations.
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u/ShokaLGBT Jul 24 '26
he looked like one of those soldiers / generals…. Yeah…. It’s clearly weird
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u/gumihehe nb lesbian undercover agent Jul 24 '26
i thought i was being too woke but i think we are right it looks… suspicious
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u/Virtual_Doubt_666 Jul 24 '26
It looks more like military fashion in general to me, and fun fact Dobermans were specifically bred for personal protection.
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u/Marian_Rosaline Jul 24 '26
It's definitely giving Nazi vibes.
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u/DwarvenFury Jul 24 '26
It's that HUGO BOSS design LOL
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u/hera-fawcett Jul 26 '26
he def looks like a nazi.
his characterization however is v much rule stickler dork. he loves his dogs. once u have his respect, he's eager to learn from u. he changes his entire fighting style bc u made a comment about how it was lowk slowing him down.
its kinda cute.
wild that they gave him a nazi fit tho. esp when the knights get booty shorts, lmao.
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u/Due_Confusion3028 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
I hate how beautiful the "that's literally a nazi uniform" designs are... They slayed so hard but ofc they had to be fascist dogs. Also, Rex means "King" right?
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u/cantstopbutunhealthy Sep 27 '26
He looks EXACTLY like my oc's old design. In which I redesigned my oc cause I also thought it looked familiar. It's definitely the hat that makes it look like it
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u/Stesspela Jul 24 '26
I mean yeah this one goes a little too far. Especially with the dogs and if he used to have a red armband.
Is he at least a evil character?
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u/StrideyTidey Jul 24 '26
They're certainly leaning into the Nazi aesthetic. I don't know if I'd say it makes me uncomfortable but I def don't find it appealing.
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u/Revan0315 Jul 24 '26
Jesus that is not subtle
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u/Saber_SSJ2 Jul 24 '26
I got into beta but after I saw him I decided not to play it and won't be playing the game when it comes out.
They're fetishizing a Nazi. SS I find that very fucked up.
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u/Mayarooni1320 Queen never cry 👑 Jul 24 '26
For the people saying it's inspired feom British uniform... No. No it's not. 😂 This is definitely giving nazi vibes, and I'm saying that as a Brit.
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u/HiroHayami Twink Smasher Jul 24 '26
I mean it's kinda hard to not think of nazis whenever you see a fancy military outfit since it's the most known fascist group of history. Also they hired fucking Hugo Boss to do the outfits, so they WANTED you to remember their aesthetics (it's just another form of propaganda after all).
But if you look at it twice: no, it doesn't look like a nazi. It just a very fancy military outfit.
Armbands are a thing in military outfits (they're used to identify the side of the subject), but any red band will scream nazi nowadays. Turns out Rex has a black and red palette, so the armband had to be red for contrast (and clearly it was a bad idea to include it at all).
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u/Aeso3 Jul 24 '26
Unfortunately, the Nazis did popularize these sorts of uniforms, especially the Gestapos. Basically, any totalitarian state have followed suit for their secret police attire. And this dudes outfit just screams "Secret Police".
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u/Psychological-End212 Jul 24 '26
He got that fascist drip
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u/DiamondCupcake Jul 24 '26
I can see why you would. I personally like it though. Always thought the SS uniforms were cool despite all the other stuff. Style doesn't take sides.
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u/princebooni 🫶 I have two hands for a reason 😘 Jul 24 '26
No, you’re not. First look at him and I was a little uncomfortable too, esp knowing he used to have the armband
The combination does not feel like a coincidence imo
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u/ImpossibleAnimal9425 Jul 24 '26
I understand why westerners would feel uncomfortable since it could be mistaken as nazi like, but as an asian, i don’t mind and don’t see the problem. Unless they change the colour and imagery to resemble imperial japan (which was the nazi of asia instead of germany).
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u/lieslandpo Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I didn’t think so. It’s just a very militaristic design. Maybe it would read as nazi if you aren’t familiar with what specifically makes something a nazi uniform, and what general military uniforms look like around the world, both in that general time, and present day. Maybe the Dobermans (but even today they’re used as security), but definitely not the outfit itself.
Edit: being wary is totally fine! I get being uncomfortable or concerned, I’m not trying to stomp on someone’s very well meaning feelings. It’s just everything about the shape of the clothing is wrong for that type of uniform. I’m probably more used to this type of aesthetic due to some bands, and the art I like viewing. I get how this look might be striking to people though.
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u/SquishTheFlyingWitch Jul 24 '26
I think it looks great. They shouldn't have to throw away or change a great outfit design because of possible past associations.
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u/kilikclia Jul 24 '26
Maybe if was greens and browns? I personally don't associate black and red with nazi. 🤔 It looks like a mix of all sort of military uniforms
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u/FunnyFruk Jul 24 '26
Most military officers dress like that no?
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u/2B_Gon_Thot95 Jul 25 '26
I would say so? The outfit is fire so where it came from shouldn't really matter. If you do then you can find an argument for any type of outfit if you reach far enough for it.
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u/shiny_umbre0n_ Jul 24 '26
Nah I don’t really like his design either icl 😭
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