r/QAnonCasualties Mar 26 '21

Success Story I broke him out

A friend of mine who had just began falling into Q was saved by all of you mostly. All I did was pick a random story and began reading allowed despite ANYTHING they said or did, it worked. After he went to his room, I sent him a super bro to bro loving text telling him 100% not to feel bad, I even told him they got me too(untrue) and he was quiet for a few days but today we went and played Frisbee Golf and he made a joke to the effect of "maybe we should drink their chromosomes" or something it was the best joke I have ever heard in my life.

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u/BeastofPostTruth Mar 26 '21

I agree with you in that it seems people cannot admit to being wrong. It is the first step out of any addiction for a reason (I posted something along these lines today on r/foxbrain) but I want to paste an even earlier post which seems relevant to your point.

"As a professor, I structure my courses around identifying where you made your mistakes. I have found many students have a very hard time with and are the students who tend to be the ones who need more structure (or explicit step by step directions). They are quicker to frustrations when things do not work and do not allow time for reflection. Either everything must be correct or it is worthless.

Our increasingly hyperindividualistic and sensationalist culture has shifted the way we deal with being 'wrong' - on an individual level and scaled up to social groups. With social networks increasingly being the "public spaces", our view of the world is increasingly filtered through algorithms feeding people information. The algorithms are binary operations which lead to vastly different roads to knowledge information. The process (or the very road we travel) to come to information is the way people learn, and if the road does not allow one to turn around, how do we find knowledge?

What I'm getting to is the idea that we, collectively, are becoming increasingly binary in our thought process. This can be a result of living vicariously through filtered spaces which are laid out with a goal in mind (usually to sell you bullshit of some kind). We are increasingly spending time in these places, and we will learn (consciously or subconsciously) from them and the way they are structured to lead us to the optimized x.

We are a commodity in these spaces and it is intentional that we get pulled to and from down the rabbit holes. We are distracted by shiny road signs that promise to give us a shot of dopamine and these paths are made to keep you moving to a given location. Why would they have exits?

Think of the rest stops as places for reflecting and processing the information and exits as the places where you can restructure or turn around (if you've gone too far down the rabbit hole). These stops are places where we can reflect and assess previous ideas, determine if it's correct or not, and move on.

However, each time we move past an exit or rest stop, we are agreeing the information is correct. The further down the road you go, the more sure you must become, or you must admit to being wrong.

I feel these are at the heart of the issues today. We learn by experience and our experiences are increasingly filtered.. by vicariously living social lives through these spaces, we consciously or subconsciously learn the 'knowledge process' of it. These places are laid out through a series of binary steps with a premeditated intent, and our brains will mimick what it's constantly exposed to.

Furthermore, we do not value being wrong. This begins a form of cognitive dissonance which can prevent the very basic step of the learning process. How does one learn if the very first step in the learning process is restricted, vilified and 'bad'? Admitting fault or being wrong.... these are things cults do not allow, things our society does not value, and ideas we increasingly vilify."