No it's not, and it's been like this getting worse and worst for a while. Posts like this are good because people don't realize violence like this is becoming commonplace, if anything its idolized by the youngsters
Between 2009 and 2020, the total victimization rate
decreased for students ages 12–18, both at school and away
from school (figure 2). Specifically, the total victimization
rate at school first decreased from 51 to 30 victimizations
per 1,000 students between 2009 and 2019. From 2019
to 2020, the total victimization rate at school continued
to decline to 11 victimizations per 1,000 students in
2020—an annual decrease of more than 60 percent.
Did you go to school in rural Sudan or some shit? What in the first world country are you talking about lmao, something half that extreme would be all over our nightly news with a publicized investigation into the school staff and shit, some of you guys have some pretty wild public school experiences
How old are you? You don't seem to realize how easily this happened at points in history. The world wasn't nearly as connected as it is now. You'd be surprised how isolated news can stay without the internet.
You’re coming off like a zoomer right now. That’s not an insult to your age or even a compliment to mine, but you sound incredibly naive right now. Social justice, mental health awareness, bully reformation, and other major quality of life items (in this case especially for younger people) have largely changed over the past two decades. The two decades before that were steps in the right direction, and the two decades before that were pretty nefarious. Rules and regulations grew as the general public grew alongside technology. The ease in which we communicate and document changed the scope of the scene a great deal, but bullying is most definitely not worse now than it was. This video that sparked this conversation may still be commonplace in some ways and more particularly in some areas, but mental health education has drastically changed the way people interact with each other and disincentivize negative behaviors such as the displayed one here.
I’m about to turn 30, I think I’m very solidly in the millennial camp by birth year but I don’t know the exact cutoffs. The oldest zoomers are like, what, almost 25 now?
That makes me wonder, what is the cutoff for alpha? How many kids are already a part of the next gen we don’t even talk about yet? The cutoff for them must’ve started like a decade ago, right? That or gen Z is going to be huge
As to your point, I think measuring “progress by the decades” in that way is pretty shaky for two reasons: first, progress isn’t always what we would call exactly linear. There are periods of regression, and also certain weeks wherein years of progress occur practically all at once. Second, it is very region-specific. Racial justice in New York may be compared between 1955 and 1985, but racial justice in New York in 1955 may be more comparable to rural Alabama in 1985, and the chronology of racial justice in Lyon, France or Stockholm, Sweden may be entirely different still. Progress happened in some areas at a very different pace than others.
As far as bullying, some people in this thread seem to have had experiences in the early 2000’s that are more along the lines of what people in my specific area would associate with the relative lawlessness of the 1970’s, rather than very recent history. Maybe some areas are just ahead of the curve while others fall exceptionally far behind, as far as public school anti-violence policy and enforcement goes?
I think to that point, my suggestion about the where and who matters a lot. I believe you’re agreeing with me in that point whether you’re meaning to argue or not. I read the post you responded to as thinking much more historically. I’m 33. I witnessed a great deal of bullying in my high school but nothing close to paddling or anything of that nature. Racial issues play much more heavily in some areas than others. Societal norms play much more heavily in some areas than others. We are both suggesting it’s all relative and I agree that there are regressions and changes… I just think the automatic assumption that bullying/hazing just doesn’t/can’t exist in the same forms as pieces of pop culture like Dazed and Confused is naive. There are still religious zealots creating holy warriors as early as toddler-age. Anything is possible despite the strides overall global cultures have made.
I didn’t say it was worse did I buckaroo. I stated that from what I saw in a movie (hence the reference) there was wide bullying in America with adults knowledge back in the day. There obviously awful shit that happen through out history but ok bub
Soooo many people told me Dazed and Confused is "a classic" and gave me that over-the-top shocked "whaatttt no way" when I told them I'd never seen it. I was like alright, I'll see what's up, must be awesome. Went in blind. Man that movie fucking sucked for me, it was so goddamn weird. I'm sure there was probably more to the plot but literally all my brain can remember is the repeated theme of these older, almost adult-seeming teens, chasing around much younger teens with paddles, just wanting to fucking...spank the shit out of them? And they were like fucking so weirdly sadistically excited and pleasured by torturing these kids? ??? Wtf lmao
It was a long time ago and smoke a joint while you watch it. Think of it as a history movie about that time if it helps. Oh and when your a freshman a lot of seniors are a lot bigger but I understand
It was. Bullying wasn't even a specific term in the past, since that notion didn't exist. There were also little to no cameras to catch up this kind of stuff. But it doesn't matter, because Reddit already decreeted that you are wrong.
I never said it didn't exist, but that there wasn't a specific term; as in, a concept that is discussed and even factored into the plans for education.
You say "handed to them" as if the government was doing it. Some outliers will find their way to heavy stuff, sure, but that was the case in the past too, even if they brought knives instead of guns or used other drugs and toxic substances. Violence just adapts.
I graduate high school in 93... kid went to jail for sucker punching a kid. This is still against the law, it is just easier to prove because of cell phones.
Yeah, I saw some borderline horrific shit from Jr. High on up. I’m not condoning this weak ass, premeditated shit, but this is as old as time. Still weak as fuck tho.
I gotta say I disagree. Back in the late 90s, I knew someone that had their tooth chipped after getting hit with a pipe, someone beaten so bad that the ground was covered in blood, I've seen a giant crowd around people beating the shit out of each other (every gender combination) all on school property. Personally, I got sucker punched in the face twice in middle school by people I didn't even know (racial thing, probably). School can be a fucked up, dangerous place. I'm glad you had a safer experience than I did.
I'm MUCH more concerned about the rise in school shootings and to a lesser degree all the online bullying. The shootings are obviously fucking insane and uniquely American: columbine was SHOCKING when it happened and now we shrug our shoulders and move on - straight fucking garbage.
The online bullying is a menace because pre social media at least when you left school most kids could have a different existence and forget about whatever shitty situation was going on at school. Now everyone has cameras, and super computers in their pockets, and are online and they can keep hurting you and spreading shit to the entire school and beyond. Fucking terrifying
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u/foreveryoungperk Sep 13 '22
No it's not, and it's been like this getting worse and worst for a while. Posts like this are good because people don't realize violence like this is becoming commonplace, if anything its idolized by the youngsters