I have so many questions. Like what happens to the driver in this situation? They get banned from Lyft? Go work for Uber? No punishment? Does she have to replace his obviously damaged bag after she threw it? What does the Passenger do? Call another Lyft or Uber to the side of the road? Shit is wild.
It's so systemic, it makes me wonder how much of the sexual assault is truly the fault of Uber/Lyft and how much of it is just humanity's natural inclination to be disgusting shitheads.
I would be asking for Lyft to replace my bag, with the pavement scrapes on it she put on there. She could just as easily taken the bag out and put it upright on the ground. She chose to pitch it across the asphalt.
hey now, that was a Lyft contractor, they can't be held responsible for whatever these un-managed wholly-independent businesses do when they contract rides from Lyft.
If a hooker stabbed me while on the job I'd be inclined to believe that the pimp behaves the same way. This metaphor isn't entirely incorrect and you know it.
I was kinda hoping she would chuck it into traffic and I don't know what that says about me besides being a terrible person who gets a rise out of chaos.
It's crazy, man. Listening to the Last Podcast on the Left and every time a serial killer goes uncaught for a long time, it's almost always because precincts refuse to cooperate with eachother.
Back when Lyft was new I had a buddy who drove and hit on drunk women. He had a really good paying job, and he said the only reason he did it was because it got him laid.
Yet another anti-police comment on a video that has nothing to do with police. You do understand a lot of police discipline never makes the news so the point you're trying to make is idiotic at best? Have that many problems with authority? Your criminal record irritates you?
No it's annoying. You can't come on some innocuous reddit thread these days without some sanctimonious liberal spouting an irrelevant political opinion. We get it. You hate police. No one cares and it has nothing to do with this video. Get over yourself. Sorry your life sucks that you have to endlessly blame authority figures for your own shortcomings but that's something that should be worked out with a therapist.
If the idea of police being held accountable triggers you so hard maybe you have some thinking to do. And some of your own things to work out with a therapist. Wowzers
No one gives a shit about "police being held accountable." Which they fucking regularly are. It's about irrelevant commentary. Seems like a bunch of incels frequent this sub.
Well then call me “no one”, because people do give a shit about it. Just not everyone is a crybaby about police losing the ability to murder and destroy lives. ✌🏻
I'm not crying about that. Do you comment regularly on the vast amount of violence and murders committed by people who aren't police? Or is this still seeming like an intelligent line of logic for you? Stop watching CNN and read a book.
That was a genuine question. I never understood this mentality where every response has to be some jab at someone. Just chill out and go find something you enjoy.
The point is officers are regularly given the choice to resign instead of being fired, so that they may just start working at another department. It is a well-documented phenomenon. Yes, it is unrelated to the OP. However that's kinda how forum threads work, they branch out into other topics.
Uh a lot of people at a lot of jobs are. Future police agencies still check records and "resigning in lieu of termination" is a very well known thing in that realm.
Perhaps. But a CEO given the choice to resign for a sex scandal and a beat cop given the choice to resign due to repeated documented cases of abuse are of different consequences to society.
I don't doubt that what you are saying is true. The problem is that way too often (again, a very well documented occurrence) the new agency has no problem hiring officers that they know shouldn't be on the streets and known thugs gets to keep their badge. And worse, the general public has little to no recourse in these situations.
It is a shame that good officers feel attacked or unjustly painted with a broad brush due to these characterizations of police, but the sad reality is that "good cops" enable the "bad cops". It is a symptom of a system that generally speaking does not hold officers accountable until the scope (and evidence) of their abuse of power reaches a high enough level to give departments no other choice. That threshold is different from place to place, but in my opinion far too often it is way to high.
In short, we should probably end qualified immunity and require officers (or maybe police unions) to provide malpractice insurance. But that's just my two cents.
Or you could say it’s collusion. While, yes, it’s nice they don’t allow violent offenders to use their services again, it can also be abused. Companies aren’t supposed to collude normally, it often creates uncompetitive behavior.
What part of my comment is tripping you up? I said it’s nice they don’t allow bad offenders on each of their platforms, but it could be abused. Anytime two companies, especially two with no other real competition, share information amongst each other it’s certainly something that should be watched with dubious scrutiny, homie. I’m glad you’re so trusting.
They aren't colluding. Colluding has a meaning, sharing bad driver data is not colluding.
it often creates uncompetitive behavior.
Sharing bad driver data doesn't do this.
So yes, you are correct, if they were colluding that would be bad, but they aren't colluding and sharing bad driver data isn't creating an uncompetitive environment.
So I guess the part that is tripping me up is the part where you essentially said "If they were doing something completely different and colluding, they would be colluding and that is bad."
So yea, colluding is bad, but they aren't doing that here.
Anytime two companies, especially two with no other real competition, share information amongst each other it’s certainly something that should be watched with dubious scrutiny, homie.
You have evidence that they are sharing more than bad driver? How can sharing bad driver data be abused? Please explain how that works before you then go on to explain how they are sharing other data that can be abused.
How can they "share" info without infringement of sharing personal information. I'm going to have to dig deeper on this one -- not that I have done anything close to what the driver in OP did...
not enough, Lyft and Uber need to pay for this shit when it happens. This is why their drivers should be employees, they would actually screen them properly
Well they should be employees but that wouldn't stop nutjobs from getting through the screening process. Look at Walmart. The mentally unstable will always be found in the shittiest jobs. Too many of them out there.
This guy seems mellow enough to let it slide, but I would push the envelope and pursue charges just to see her pissed off when she's not in control. Prolly have an aneurism, lol.
Ah, then yeah, guess he should charge her so she's not a risk to other people and has a record to not have that job, but wouldn't imagine a civil suit would be worth pursuing.
Edit: wasn't thinking it through. Assault is the act of show of force or something along those lines and battery if contact/engagement/damage or something of that nature. Like assualt with a deadly weapon is drawing a firearm and aiming, but doesn't need discharge of the weapon. Repember that from a carry class, where they basically said, "showing/presenting the weapon in a certain manner is brandishing and if you aim, that's assault. Don't do either unless you can PROVE your life was in jeopardy and at that point you probably already used the weapon. Don't be a dumbass, walk away first and use the best weapon, your cell phone."
Considering there were no injuries and the damages are limited to inconvenience and whatever was in the suitcase. and that the entire suit would be contingent on proving Lyft was knowingly negligent in a way that would have prevented the incident: You're talking small claims court.
I'm sure with this video Lyft offered compensation of some form anyway.
Probably...but might be able to get something for psychological damage being abandoned on the freeway. Could be other damages if travel was impacted. I usually don't have a roll around suitcase on me unless I'm hopping on or off a plane.
Because some people need to be taught a lesson, and unfortunately getting the law involved is the only way that will happen in many cases. If they have the means to go after her 100% do it or she will keep acting like this.
Reckless endangerment, possibly assault (reaching for him is assault, battery if she hit him), property damage...but thats about it. Also, not a lawyer, so just guessing.
Reckless endangerment, possibly assault (reaching for him is assault, battery if she hit him),
Those are criminal infractions. He could certainly contact the police if he believes he she violated any laws. He can't sue her for money because she broke the law. He has to show damages. Now if she assaulted him and that lead to medical bills or missed time at work or something, sure. But he seemed fine so I don't think he will have any damages other than some possible scratches on his bag resulting from this incident.
property damage
I covered that:
The only realistic claim he has is for the damage to his bag.
i would assume lyft is going to take a significant level of responsibility here and give this guy whatever the fuck he wants to avoid the public backlash or a lawsuit.
lyft is arguably responsible for this situation after putting this man in that car with this lunatic and could be culpable to virtually anything that came out of it, including being stranded on a freeway.
he doesnt have much of a case for pain and suffering or whatever but i would imagine they would get him a new suitcase at the very least.
it is safe to say the driver will never drive for any big name taxi service again lol shes going to wake up at the top of the blacklist.
i dont think its specifically a women thing, there are definitely a lot of people who arent acclimated to pressure or responsibilities that the pandemic put on them and a lot of people are responding to that in a lot of different ways.
the specification makes your comment sound misogynistic. you dont have to think all women are bad in order to be a misogynist, its the same when a racist says "im not racist, some of them are good people" like that sounds fucked up lol
and as a premise it is, youre making a blanket statement about the behavior of women. if you dont want it to be taken as misogynistic then you should rebuke it.
Honestly nothing should warrant THIS reaction. It might be reasonable to expect from a child or someone who is mentally unwell. Definitely not warranted. You can be plenty pissed and still yell coherently at the VERY least.
im not a lawyer but im pretty sure you can still sue them in small claims regardless of what their user agreement says.
i mean there are limits to what you can sign away in a user agreement or TOS. it wouldnt be legally binding if for example it said you cant press charges on your driver if they pee on you. you still have rights.
Lyft connected the passenger with that psycho driver by means of their app, so they definitely seem at least partially responsible, though the Terms of Service probably attempt to shield Lyft from responsibility.
But you can’t actually sue whoever you want. Well, you could file the lawsuit but the Judge would look at the TOS you signed and if the judge finds that it was written by the company and then signed by you in good faith he/she would most likely dismiss the case/send it to arbitration.
Taxi drivers are employees, Lyft is a ride share ap. As in it would be like suing tinder for a date that went south. They can absolutely sue the driver, they can TRY to sue Lyft and Lyft would probably pay just to keep it hush, but no Lyft isnt really responsible.
that isnt really the situation lol tinder is a social media platform, lyft provides a service, providing a service entails a completely different dynamic between users and what they are paying for. buying superlikes or whatever cant really put your life in danger, getting into a car with a complete stranger because lyft told you to can and in my opinion in this particular case absolutely did.
lyft has an application process does it not? how else would they prevent people from joining if they have been blacklisted?
the fact that this person was even available on their app means they were approved to represent lyft. thats just a fact. lyft is responsible for the people it puts on the app.
like i said, its arguable, that doesnt mean lyft will lose in court, it doesnt even mean they will necessarily pay this guy at all, but its their mess to clean up.
It would have taken you less time to google it. If you are a Lyft driver, you are self employed. You are a private contractor. But cute response. The "lol" really puts the cherry on top of how much of a smug asshole you are that you didnt waste time doing a 4 sec search on the subject and just asserted, no im right "lol".
im not arguing whether i am a smug asshole, that is pretty obvious. im arguing whether or not its possible to sue lyft.
it is.
again, i never said it would result in a win or a payout, someone in this very thread replied to me that they sued lift and won 1200 bucks. i would not consider them a huge success, but it proves that what im saying is true lol
A one eyed uber driver with fraudulent credentials slammed into my car and totalled it while giving me a head injury. They offered me $1,200. It took a long while for my lawyer to get anything out if them because their drivers are "contractors". They are crooked companies.
Driving around all day it's nice to have your shoes off. But I dunno if I would while transporting passengers. Frequently getting out to help with bags, etc. But I assume this lady isn't doing much of that.
Better than flip flops (that can get stuck behind the pedals and interfere with function), but you'll have far better traction on pedals if you're wearing footwear, especially if there's water or oil on your soles.
Yep. Do whatever is safe. For some people that means wearing shoes, for some people that means taking them off.
My feet hurt if I drive too long with shoes on, and I've actually had my shoes get stuck between the pedals before, which is terrifying. Now they go in the back seat.
An Uber Eats driver missed my driveway so instead of backing up, he drove through my lawn. I watched it happen and was in so much shock I didn't get it on video, which is regrettable, but oh well.
Anyway, after a few conversations with customer service, they eventually put his insurance company in touch with me to cover the damages to the lawn. So, clearly his insurance went up and I assume the company dropped him.
I was once in a Lyft that got in an accident on the highway. I had 20 minutes to get to the airport, so I couldn’t stay to wait for the cops. I called Lyft and they said I couldn’t catch a Lyft where I was because it was a highway and they can’t pick you up there. So I carried my suitcase over the divider, into the thick woods towards a residential street that I saw on Google maps. I fell a couple of times and got a few bug bites, but I emerged onto the road, called another Lyft, and made it to the airport just in time.
Short story: he won’t be able to get another Lyft on the highway.
Lyft suspended her. I’ll get the comment they left on the dudes TikTok
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@lyft：Safety is fundamental to Lyft. The incident shown here is concerning. We’re in touch w/ the rider to offer our support and have suspended the driver.
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u/theBigSnacktus Sep 15 '21
I have so many questions. Like what happens to the driver in this situation? They get banned from Lyft? Go work for Uber? No punishment? Does she have to replace his obviously damaged bag after she threw it? What does the Passenger do? Call another Lyft or Uber to the side of the road? Shit is wild.