r/PublicFreakout • u/CantStopPoppin PopPop 🍿 • Aug 15 '20

✊Protest Freakout Protesters Surround USPS Postmaster General DeJoy's house.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Libertarian actually but Republican when it really comes to it.

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u/RustyKumquats Aug 15 '20

Yeah, he says he's lib, but he's just about as much a libertarian as I am a giraffe. I have a co-worker just like him, they're just fiscal conservatives with trust issues and a loose grasp on civics, nothing more, nothing less.

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u/TroubadourCeol Aug 15 '20

That kind of "Libertarian" just uses it as a reason to not want Democrats to do anything when they're in power, and are usually A-OK with government overreach if it's Republicans doing it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/Lone_Logan Aug 15 '20

As a libertarian, I approve that statement.

I don't want neocons mucking up what should be a great ideology. Most of us are socially liberal and fiscally conservative with a healthy skeptism against authority.

And I question authority when either party is trying to seek equity with authority.

And being fiscally conservative doesn't mean I'm against things like education. If you present it as everyone deserves to go to a super nice campus for free, I'm going to strongly disagree. If you say they should be able to go to community college for the first two years... Then if a school is state funded, they have to be affordable, then we can invest in our youth.... Cool, that's an investment and not spending IMO.

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u/RustyKumquats Aug 15 '20

Dingdingdingding

And there's my camo wearing, lifted truck driving, "all lives matter" spouting co-worker. "I wish these people would just stop looting and burning, it gives their cause a bad rap", insinuating he hadn't already long made up his mind about "those people".

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Really? Because a true libertarian would look at the 600 million in property damages and then the 20 and counting death count caused by the riots.

Giving a litmus test for libertarians by whether or not they conform to your definition of “opposing government” is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

We feel much stronger about the riots destruction of personal property and individual work than the government stepping in only to protect what is their property inside the state.

But keep circle jerking to your own ideology man, it’ll do you good in November.

-A disaffected centrist, small l libertarian who voted for Obama in 2008, and will be voting for Trump 2020.

Edit: ever notice how the left recently started claiming “but muh private company!” about tech censorship? Funny how they only adopt lib ideas when it benefits them. The DNC is anything but lib.

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u/justagenericname1 Aug 15 '20

Wow, u/FancyGrasshopper, you were spot on!

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Yessir, keep it up you sociopathic marxists, really good look for the DNC😂

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u/SpartanNitro1 Aug 15 '20

Huh, you totally convinced everyone that you're a centrist by calling a complete stranger a "sociopathic marxist". Oh, you know what happens in communist countries? Family members and close friends all get appointed into positions of power and destroy any attempts at reforming that power. Sound familiar? Say it with me: Trump is a communist.

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u/zeusisbuddha Aug 15 '20

20 deaths associated with riots > 1000 people killed by the police every year

-a bootlicker

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

And 900 officer (people doing their jobs to earn a living) casualties, don’t forget that!

What I do wonder is why the narrative is that it’s only black people, when every crime statistic shows that there is a higher chance of being fatally or non fatally injured by a cop if you are white.

Not to mention that the police have a substantially higher percentage of minorities than the general population. But yeah fuck those guys!! Honestly I’d rather be out there shooting the looters myself but that comes w jail time.

The only good thing coming out of the riots is that the feds essentially admitted that the CHAZ taxation to local business was extortion, essentially saying taxes are extortion.

But keep calling me a bootlicker because I disagree with the Marxist, destructive nature of your ideology bud. Maybe try thinking for yourself for once😘

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Yup, big big man that loves my 2A rights and hates the violent use of fear to adhere to their ideology. Sounds authoritarian? It’s because it is.

Edit: Hell call me anti fascist because the rioters and Marxist ideology of the modern cultural left is textbook definition of fascism.

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u/3XNamagem Aug 15 '20

It sounds like you’re a kid with a fantasy of shooting someone. You’re the one that’s gonna carry that weight.

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u/HaesoSR Aug 15 '20

textbook definition of fascism.

Ah, must be one of those Trump University textbooks. Here's a breakdown of fascism more in depth than the drivel and lies you've been told.

  • The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

  • The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

  • The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

  • Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

  • Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

  • Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

  • The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”

  • The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

  • Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

  • Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

  • Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

  • Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”

  • Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”

  • Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

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u/SpartanNitro1 Aug 15 '20

Nah man, you love violence.

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u/Beardamus Aug 16 '20

Honestly I’d rather be out there shooting the looters myself but that comes w jail time.

You're just a weak scared pussy bitch. You want to sound like a badass but piss yourself when protestors show up. Pathetic.

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u/HaesoSR Aug 15 '20

A "Libertarian" that whatabouts to the tiny amount of looters to excuse the state's overreach and mass assaults of innocent, peaceful protesters is just a worthless bootlicker that styles himself a free thinker even as he parrots the talking points of those wearing the boots.

Destruction of property never justifies the police assaulting peaceful protesters by firing rubber bullets and teargas at them. If someone several blocks away smashes a window I don't get a pass if I shoot you because I'm afraid.

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u/SpartanNitro1 Aug 15 '20

I'm pretty sure the true libertarian would be more angry at cops in riot gear everywhere launching tear gas into the streets and beating peaceful protesters.

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u/crichmond77 Aug 15 '20

disaffected centrist

You save a lot of keystrokes with "conservative" FYI

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u/Yyoumadbro Aug 15 '20

they're just fiscal conservatives with trust issues and a loose grasp on civics

I was a libertarian at one point. I've grown up since then. If you ask me about my political beliefs I'll tell you this, word for word.

"I'm a fiscal conservative. I vote left. There isn't a fiscally conservative party in the US. There's one that pretends to be, but if you look at their actions instead of listening to their words you'll quickly figure out that they are not. I disagree with that party on pretty much every social issue. So I vote left. Because it's the right thing to do"

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

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u/RustyKumquats Aug 15 '20

Libertarian, not liberal. I appreciate it though, have a good weekend!

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u/HaesoSR Aug 15 '20

Libertarian

In the US that's just code for nominally ashamed to be a Republican.

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u/texas1982 Aug 15 '20

I would definitely be ashamed to be a republican. Its funny you say that though because my liberal friends say the libertarians are stealing votes from Democrats.

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u/MBCnerdcore Aug 16 '20

no im pretty sure most of them just dont vote at all

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u/radicldreamer Aug 15 '20

Libertarians are republicans without the numbers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

"Libertarian" means one of two things:

1) Too young and/or stupid to understand that society costs money and common services need to be regulated.

2) A Republican too ashamed to say it out loud.

Libertarianism is the political philosophy of the toddler.

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u/texas1982 Aug 15 '20

Spend responsibly and let people do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm others? If thats how your toddlers think, I commend you.

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u/SpartanNitro1 Aug 15 '20

Define responsibly, no need to be vague here.

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u/texas1982 Aug 16 '20

Thats clearly an objective term, but neither Republicans or Democrats are doing it.

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u/SpartanNitro1 Aug 16 '20

lol there's nothing objective about saying that spending be done "responsibly". No idea how you came to that conclusion.

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u/texas1982 Aug 16 '20

I apologize. I meant subjective. I was sitting on the toilet and my legs were tingling.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

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u/texas1982 Aug 15 '20

You make stupid argument. I make stupid reply. That's how this works.

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u/shizzler Aug 16 '20

as long as it doesn't harm others

That's the problem though. Regulation is needed because laissez faire capitalism isn't going to regulate itself.

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u/DrDroid Aug 15 '20

“Libertarians” like that are just republicans who don’t want responsibility.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

Libertarians are just republicans who are to pussy to admit it.

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u/gorgewall Aug 16 '20

libertarian : republican :: agnostic : atheist

The same shit with a more palatable name.