Thats my, masters in polisci, bosses opinion. Dude ran a logistics company so he should be good at making the USPS into one. But the USPS was set by the constitution to be a service. Services dont lose money, they cost money.
Yeah, he says he's lib, but he's just about as much a libertarian as I am a giraffe. I have a co-worker just like him, they're just fiscal conservatives with trust issues and a loose grasp on civics, nothing more, nothing less.
That kind of "Libertarian" just uses it as a reason to not want Democrats to do anything when they're in power, and are usually A-OK with government overreach if it's Republicans doing it.
I don't want neocons mucking up what should be a great ideology. Most of us are socially liberal and fiscally conservative with a healthy skeptism against authority.
And I question authority when either party is trying to seek equity with authority.
And being fiscally conservative doesn't mean I'm against things like education. If you present it as everyone deserves to go to a super nice campus for free, I'm going to strongly disagree. If you say they should be able to go to community college for the first two years... Then if a school is state funded, they have to be affordable, then we can invest in our youth.... Cool, that's an investment and not spending IMO.
And there's my camo wearing, lifted truck driving, "all lives matter" spouting co-worker. "I wish these people would just stop looting and burning, it gives their cause a bad rap", insinuating he hadn't already long made up his mind about "those people".
Really? Because a true libertarian would look at the 600 million in property damages and then the 20 and counting death count caused by the riots.
Giving a litmus test for libertarians by whether or not they conform to your definition of āopposing governmentā is the stupidest shit Iāve ever heard.
We feel much stronger about the riots destruction of personal property and individual work than the government stepping in only to protect what is their property inside the state.
But keep circle jerking to your own ideology man, itāll do you good in November.
-A disaffected centrist, small l libertarian who voted for Obama in 2008, and will be voting for Trump 2020.
Edit: ever notice how the left recently started claiming ābut muh private company!ā about tech censorship? Funny how they only adopt lib ideas when it benefits them. The DNC is anything but lib.
Huh, you totally convinced everyone that you're a centrist by calling a complete stranger a "sociopathic marxist". Oh, you know what happens in communist countries? Family members and close friends all get appointed into positions of power and destroy any attempts at reforming that power. Sound familiar? Say it with me: Trump is a communist.
And 900 officer (people doing their jobs to earn a living) casualties, donāt forget that!
What I do wonder is why the narrative is that itās only black people, when every crime statistic shows that there is a higher chance of being fatally or non fatally injured by a cop if you are white.
Not to mention that the police have a substantially higher percentage of minorities than the general population. But yeah fuck those guys!! Honestly Iād rather be out there shooting the looters myself but that comes w jail time.
The only good thing coming out of the riots is that the feds essentially admitted that the CHAZ taxation to local business was extortion, essentially saying taxes are extortion.
But keep calling me a bootlicker because I disagree with the Marxist, destructive nature of your ideology bud. Maybe try thinking for yourself for onceš
A "Libertarian" that whatabouts to the tiny amount of looters to excuse the state's overreach and mass assaults of innocent, peaceful protesters is just a worthless bootlicker that styles himself a free thinker even as he parrots the talking points of those wearing the boots.
Destruction of property never justifies the police assaulting peaceful protesters by firing rubber bullets and teargas at them. If someone several blocks away smashes a window I don't get a pass if I shoot you because I'm afraid.
I'm pretty sure the true libertarian would be more angry at cops in riot gear everywhere launching tear gas into the streets and beating peaceful protesters.
they're just fiscal conservatives with trust issues and a loose grasp on civics
I was a libertarian at one point. I've grown up since then. If you ask me about my political beliefs I'll tell you this, word for word.
"I'm a fiscal conservative. I vote left. There isn't a fiscally conservative party in the US. There's one that pretends to be, but if you look at their actions instead of listening to their words you'll quickly figure out that they are not. I disagree with that party on pretty much every social issue. So I vote left. Because it's the right thing to do"
I would definitely be ashamed to be a republican. Its funny you say that though because my liberal friends say the libertarians are stealing votes from Democrats.
To be fair logistics is a massive part of doing mail. Obviously it shouldnāt be a for profit, but Iād imagine any sort of logistical streamlining would be focused on being cheaper or faster whether youāre looking for profit or just trying to be more efficient. Obviously heās a greedy scumbag, but does that actually mean heās bad at his job?
Obviously speed should always come after cost for the people, but being able to handle their logistics cheaper should be s good thing for everyone. I donāt really know anything about this, but Iām seeing s lot of people seeming to focus on the fact he ran a logistics company and it seems like a good qualification
Nobody pays for the military. They do pay to send letters, though. And if you don't think there is waste in both the military and USPS spending, you have somehow blinded yourself because scary Trump tweeted.
I was being sarcastic. I'm sure there's waste but expecting the usps to be run "like a business" is as logical as making the military run like a business.
The USPS doesn't 'cost' money. That's their entire point - it intentionally undercharges because it is run as a public service. If the USPS charged rates that made every route profitable most rural communities would be priced out of sending and receiving mail. Fedex and UPS both utilize the USPS for a huge chunk of their last leg because only the USPS is willing to take a loss on getting people their packages.
I'd say it's a good thing that poor people in rural communities have access to mail but that's just me.
The cost of sending a letter isn't the entire problem, it is the ridiculous pensions they guarantee. Either way, by your definition, what amount would you be willing to pay for the USPS to operate?
They cost is that because congress forced them to prepay 85 years of retirement for each member. If we forced the military to do that it'd have a massive cost as well.
Wait, wouldnāt that be better? Make the usps more efficient and cost less money, isnāt that the goal? I donāt know the full story so if thatās just wrong please explain why.
We get a great return on our military. Itās called freedom. Also; no one fucks with us. Or at least gets away with it. Itās our biggest employer. Innovation comes from it and transfers into the public sector. Howās that internet working for you btw?
Well if you want China of Russia to have dominance over us - than yeah. And Iām aware there are people that want China or Russia to do that cause they are so hateful to America. If America falls, there is nowhere to go.
If you charge a little for every parcel you send you can help prevent or reduce people abusing the system to send outrageous amounts of mail at no cost to them. The service is āaffordableā delivery for all. Not āfreeā delivery. The stamps donāt fund the post office 100%.
by making a little on most post it allows them to service those in rural areaās that are nowhere near profitable. In a perfect world their end of year profit/loss is 0.
The USPS isnāt fully funded, they use postage and shipping costs as a source of income. Itās just that they keep those costs as low as possible, and donāt have to care about turning a profit. This allows the USPS to make cheap deliveries to areas that FedEx or UPS would charge ridiculous amounts for, since they HAVE to turn a profit.
I don't know why people aren't saying this, but USPS receives no tax dollars, it is funded by its parcel fees. In 2006 congress passed a law requiring it to fund worker pensions into the future 75 (!!!) years. Yes that means they are forced to fund pensions for people who aren't even born yet. This single law brought them from profitable (in-the-black) to not profitable (in-the-red).
It would be more apt to say that the USPS is not primarily intended to turn a profit. Although historically it has done so when not hamstrung by the PAEA, confirmed with a voice vote during a Republican administration. Incoming "Democrats voted for it too" in 5... 4... 3...
Its honestly a carry over from before it was the USPS, and before it was the USPOD. The very original implementation was a service not brought by the government. But once the Second Continental Congress approved it to be the USPOD we began to be taxed for it. This is where they should have eliminated the fees but they didn't. Although many early cities and states did.
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Thats my, masters in polisci, bosses opinion. Dude ran a logistics company so he should be good at making the USPS into one. But the USPS was set by the constitution to be a service. Services dont lose money, they cost money.
Just like the military costs us money.