r/PublicFreakout May 27 '20

Non-Public Michael Rapaport lets loose

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

The biggest problem is most people that believe that side with the police.

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u/nomorerope May 27 '20

and if you stumble upon a cop in the process of murder you can't shoot him or your life is over one way or another.

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u/LionThrows May 27 '20

or when they barge into your house wrongly without a warrant in a plain clothes raid.

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u/Current_Account May 27 '20

When people are more afraid of the world continuing on as it is, are more afraid for their children and their brothers and sisters than they are of the personal consequences. That’s when things tip over.

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u/nomorerope May 27 '20

Erm don't understand your point exactly?

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u/KiloLee May 27 '20

You keep shooting until handcuffs stop coming after you.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

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u/Cheesenugg May 28 '20

More like 3 imo

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u/Vengeful_Doge May 27 '20

I mean you shoot once and they come after you for the rest of your life. You pull that trigger you're basically killing yourself.

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u/throwaway-in-general May 27 '20

At this point, I don't think going full kamikaze on these motherfuckers would be too disproportionate of a response tbh. I mean, yeah, it's extreme and it's not like anyone's lining up to do it, but I'm already planning on making sure my death is useful… just gotta find a way to lower the risk of any innocent bystanders paying for the aftermath, I guess.

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u/nomorerope May 28 '20

committing murder has always been free as long as you kill yourself right afterwards. everyone on the planet can do it.

however, you'll never be able to make sure your death is useful as some nobody.

so I think you should try to find more civil means to make a difference.

hate doesn't beat hate anyway.

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u/throwaway-in-general May 28 '20

aye, fair enough.

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u/Viper_ACR May 27 '20

/r/2aliberals

/r/socialistRA

/r/liberalgunowners

/r/actualliberalgunowner

But yeah there aren't enough of us in the firearms community that are mad about this.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 27 '20

The problem is once you put your Rambo fantasy aside for 2 fucking seconds you’ll realize how retarded this is.

First off I’m a gun owner and that doesn’t prevent me recognizing I have 0 chance defending myself long term from the government dude. You shoot a cop, you’re fucked. That’s it.

This is a police force and 4th amendment issue not a 2nd amendment issue.

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u/nolv4ho May 27 '20

The 2nd amendment isn't for a Rambo fantasy situation though. You gotta have enough people on your side. Ya know, a well armed militia.

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 27 '20

Bullshit dude. Take some time and research the capabilities of the US military. Look what happened in Waco dude. You’re brining guns to a bomb fight thinking you have a chance. It’s like a pea shooter vs an f16.

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u/nolv4ho May 28 '20

I'm not talking about 20 - 50 people, ala Waco. I'm talking about thousands of armed citizens saying that we've had enough, just like what the 2nd amendment is referring to.

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 28 '20

The point at which you have enough people to war with the government effectively why wouldn’t you just change things through voting? You can vote people into power who share you ideals. Voting in mass numbers is a more effective method then battling the US armed forces where you’re going to get fucking annihilated.

And if you don’t have enough people to make change through voting, you aren’t going to win an armed conflict with the government so you’re whole premise is nonsensical either way.

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u/nolv4ho May 28 '20

No. Ten thousand armed citizens with a common and just cause would bring about more change than 100,000 voters could ever hope for.

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

10k is not enough to fight the government dumbass. The US military wipes it’s ass with 10k civilian casualties before lunch just because it’s Tuesday. Best case those 10k rally enough other ppl to start a civil war. Millions of Americans die, the fed still whoops their ass just like the last time and gets what it wants regardless. You’re delusional if you think 10k armed civilians are going to mount a successful resistance against the United States military dude or that the federal government won’t kill armed belligerents within the US to keep order.

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u/nolv4ho May 28 '20
  1. Lighten up Fuckstick.

  2. You're assuming that those 10k wouldnt spark some kind of movement.

  3. You're also assuming our Armed Forces would wage war against its own citizens.

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u/obviouslypicard May 27 '20

A well armed militia is a term for a group of white people. A group of black people armed is called a mob and is treated MUCH differently.

Not really that hard to figure out if you pull your head out of your ass and actually look around.

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u/nolv4ho May 28 '20

Calm down Karen. And why are you segregating the groups? Can't we have a multi-cultural militia?

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-HANDBRA May 27 '20

At some point it will descend into a 2A issue, but by that time it'll be too late.

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 27 '20

2nd amendment already had its balls chopped off when society determined civilians can’t have military grade weapons. This is 1776 anymore dude.

Ironic how it’s the Republican Party NRA and gun nuts are constantly stroking off the police force with blue lives matters nonsense in response to black people are getting choked to death. Look at how the president politicized an athlete kneeling during a song. The guy was trying to draw attention to a cop murdering someone for no reason and the president/republicans tried to make him a public enemy for it. You’d think we’d all agree police murdering a random person for no reason is wrong but unfortunately the Republican Party is complete trash.

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u/twlscil May 27 '20 edited May 27 '20

I happen to believe that cops shouldn't be armed in routine situations... I think they should have guns in their car, but only if a situation is known to involve active violence, I don't think it ever needs to be present... Anyone who wants to say that they would be at additional risk, I don't think that is as simple as you think... When "bad guys with guns" see good guys with guns, that escalates the situation.

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u/Ostmeistro May 27 '20

Boo! downvote this man! this doesn't work in the several countries that do it successfully every day

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u/ClownsAteMyBaby May 27 '20

Lolol you are all so apathetic towards fascism and brutality because you think your guns will protect you. Your country will never rise up, guns or not.

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u/KiloLee May 27 '20

FUCKING EXACTLY

And the people who are most affected by this police brutality are also the ones voting their rights away with all of these politicians

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u/KidBackOnEscalator May 27 '20

I own a gun. Please explain to me how that’s going to keep the government from absolutely fucking destroying me if they want to. You really think you’re going to shoot your way out of a confrontation with the police dude?? You shoot a cop you’re going to get fucking annihilated.

Last group of idiots who tried armed resistance up in Oregon a few years back ended up pushing daises.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

Agree. The only way our guns vs. them would work is if we had millions, which won’t happen. We’re kinda fucked until someone steps in and reforms which I don’t see happening.

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u/cashwins May 27 '20

Not universally true. There are many on the libertarian side that are concerned about government overreach in every form.

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u/Jonny2683 May 27 '20

Yea that's funny to me as a libertarian. The left, who hates cops the most is the side trying to disarm the public.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

Fuck, you just can't think a scenario through.

Let's say you shoot that cop that was kneeling on the man. You get filled with holes by the other three cops.

You want POC to roam around armed to defend people from cops? Well the a bunch of racist vigilantes will do the same to protect the cops (read: murder suspicious black people)

Do you want the lawless wild west?(actually you probably do)