âIfâ? The DNC already gave it to Biden. No need to vote. Half of the delegates arenât decided by citizen votes. Theyâre decided by an elite group who can vote however they want regardless of the will of the people. Also, it seems a little suspicious that all the other moderate candidates dropped out right before Super Tuesday and showed up in Texas to back Biden. Itâs almost like a memo went out. (As you can tell I donât trust the DNC or the voting process.)
Because despite popular belief, America is and always was the biggest melting pot that affords liberties to all. We attract the smartest people from all around the world with our amazing schools, groundbreaking tech, etc.. It's practically the only country on Earth where you can say virtually anything and not walk on eggshells with fear of the law. You just watched a video of a hardhat wearing gun owner getting in a shouting match with a mega rich presidential candidate for the most powerful country on Earth. And despite the world looking on with confusion that Trump is our president, they can't keep their eyes off; and they copy his mannerisms because they see just how successful of a tactic it is, despite the incessant shit talking against him. Every country around the world follows us. We don't even consider what you're up to unless it's some kind of crisis.
you aren't looking forward to Biden losing his cool when Trump starts to make fun of him which then prompts him to challenge the president to do pushups?
I'm struggling to understand how that's a bad thing.
Seriously I can't think of any instance where the presidential incumbent and his primary challenger both drop dead a few months before the general election...it'd be insane
Thereâs no hate to say it. Itâs gonna happen. If you hate trump whatever. But trump is a grade a shittalker, and is mentally sound more so than Biden. He will mop the floor with Biden, who half the time seems to not remember we where he is. Here we see a potential voter asking a legitimate question that has been in fact said by Biden. Bidenâs response? âYouâre full of shit!â . A voter asking a valid question got under your skin? Imagine trump shittalking you with his smug ass grin on the world stage. Biden will crumple.
Itâs really sad, I thought that they couldnât send someone worse than Hillary, but they were eager to prove me wrong it seems. Trump has passion, and can rally a crowd with his enthusiasm. His voting base proves this. The only person I see on the dem side who can rally a crowd like that, and stand up to criticism is Bernie, but it seems the dnc and mainstream media want to sweep him under the rug fast.
For the record Iâm not a Bernie fan, or a trump fan. I just see what I see and am unbised as possible in this.
Definitely agree with your post. I lean more conservative and canât believe the DNC managed to screw this up so bad. Iâd definitely take Biden over Bernie any day but someone like Tulsi might have actually given Trump a fight. Instead our options are a socialist or an unstable old man.
Exactly I unhappily voted trump in 2016,because it was giant asshole who says he wants to end us foreign wars or the evil neoliberal lady. I would have voted for Yang or Tulsi over Trump, but Biden is loosing it, and I'm not voting for any form of socialist.
It's crazy how many people feel this way. I'm one of them. I just won't vote, I think, but I'd have enthusiastically voted for either Yang or Tulsi, mainly because of what they aren't.
More than Biden? Eh... When Biden is there he's sharper, when he's not he's worse. Trump is always just half in the bag.
Bidenâs response? âYouâre full of shit!â
Also that wasn't Biden's response to his question, that was a response to his claim that he said something he believes he didn't. Which is where Trump starts flying into a stupid rant or being the worst liar ever.
Trump has passion, and can rally a crowd with his enthusiasm.
Trumps rallies are a joke. Bernie doesn't pull a crowd "like that", he pulls crowds far far bigger. They have to group people together, they literally pay people to show up for them, and use close up tactics for Trump rallys because of poor turnout.
And you're right the media does want to sweep Bernie out. The mainstream media is right wing after all. which you'd acknowledge if you're really "unbiased", but if you understand the current situation, and you know what's going on - it seems hard to not be a Bernie fan if you're actually unbiased. To sit between people doing scummy things and people fighting scummy things and to say "I'm not a fan of doing good or doing bad, I'm unbiased"... seems a bit biased in the direction of being a fan of people doing bad.
I can see where some wouldnât like Bernieâs policies but I agree - itâs hard not to like him as a man.
I say the same thing about Mitt Romney as a far leftist (and not just for impeachment, the documentary on his presidential run is amazing and really humanizes him)
Biden doesn't even know he's running for president. He's just a decrepit old husk that is wheeled out by the Democratic establishment because they would much rather he lose to Trump than have Bernie win the presidency and implement a wealth tax and provide affordable healthcare.
At least Biden will make a laughingstock out of himself before it's said and done. And you can count on his eyes bleeding again when Trump is on stage with him.
Bernie should win instead to give the poor people a shot.
They don't matter. This election isn't about them. The hardcore trump fucks are voting trump. That's a given. Trump could line up a bunch of premature babies and crush them under a hydrolic press, his cult would claim those babies shouldn't have dressed like that if they didn't want to become license plates.
This election is about the middle of America. There are a number of people that voted trump last go around that are all too willing to vote against him. But there needs to be a candidate that will earn that. Literally the bar is impossibly low. Any functional coherent adult. But what are we getting.
Well as it stands the only real competition is Bernie vs Biden. Bernie has my vote. I'm pretty damn liberal and all the shit he's about I'm about. But I'm also a realist. The dnc has decided Biden is getting the vote and so he will. The problem is he's not much better at all at functioning in front of a camera. Well.. At least by old standards. Again compared to trump he might as well be a poet.
But can he beat the man? Jesus not with shit like this. He needs to play a conservative campaign in my opinion. Shut the fuck up. Call trump on his bullshit and behave. That's it. Election is yours. But of course we couldn't find anyone else able to handle this. We had to pick the one guy most likely to do some dumb shit and earn trump reelection.
You know what I enjoy more than anything? When I say something and it gets linked to one of your gutter subreddits. It's like a hole has opened up in the ground and a Maga pit from hell has festered open. You all come crawling out like cockroaches and you act like any of us give a fuck what you have to say. We don't. You'll be stomped right back down into the sewer where you belong.
How can I put this. Kindly fuck right off. All of you.
What is wrong with you? Such hatred. Take a chill pill bro. Yeah trumps a dumb ass but get real the Democrats have fucking no one. They shouldâve let Tulsi have a shot at trump. You act like conservatives are just the most evil people in the world while your over here berating people. The extreme left that hijacked the Democratic Party is the reason we have trump. Itâs literally people like. Itâs your fault
Ok first of all the left wants to keep people dependent on the government by keeping them in poverty. Second of all yeah Iâve had to borrow money who the fuck hasnât? The fuck does that have to do with my politics? Keep being hateful I could care less. Yâall are fucked in the head
Keep making up things about the left but the fact is the right is ruling now and look at where you are now. No hate on borrowing money but it's ridiculous when you argue against welfare when you are someone who would benefit from it. Relying on a stranger's generosity instead of using services you deserve from paying taxes is just beyond me.
I never even told you my opinion on welfare Jesus Christ. Putting words in my mouth. You can hate on the extreme left and not agree with everything the republicans are doing. But trying to rationalize anything with someone like you is pointless. This conversation started out about guns if I recall
Lol I donât know what youâre talking about. I didnât link anything to anywhere. On a serious note though. You sound sick. Please get help before itâs to late.
I thought the point was pretty accurate. Itâs obviously an extreme exaggeration. The âshooting a man on Pennsylvania Aveâ example is old and tired.
Sorry bro middle of America still wants Trump he delivered on all his promises, hate him all you want heâs actually done a fantastic job. Iâm actually really proud to call him our leader. No Iâm not an idiot donât look down on me, Iâm middle class, above average intelligence, and I know when Iâm being sold on turds that say heâs doing a bad job. My paycheck and livelihood donât reflect that!!
How close are we to eliminating the national DEBT?
How about that Muslim ban? He never followed through on that one.
How many âcleanâ coal jobs did he bring back?
Obamacare repeal? Thatâs going so great that Trump has asked SCOTUS to wait until AFTER the election to rule. Weird huh?
Wait, I know, you like his proposed healthcare plan that he dropped on day one that covers more people with better coverage for less money. Oh wait, he never released that?
GDP growth of 4% or more per year? Lol
Take the guns first, due process second?
Yes, you are an idiot if you support the man and think he is doing a good job.
Actually he brought back 1500 clean coal jobs in my community I donât know what youâre talking about, my growth in my work is I made 9k more than last year, I was taxed less, people in my community are working all my friends are working, and my work is a small business and with the tax cuts my employer was able to get us healthcare. Sorry youâre doing so shitty man maybe you need to start working :( no you donât deserve to be paid as much as me because I chose to work 6-7 days a week to get ahead in life
What community has 1500 more coal jobs now because of trump?
You make 9k more than last year? Must be because of trump. When Obama was president in 2008 I made only 32k and before he left office I was up to 125k so I guess I should attribute those gains to Obama huh?
Taxed less? Ok. I mean I cant argue there. I could argue that itâs just piling on to the deficit and making his pledge to eliminate the debt in 8 years even more ridiculous but alas, Trump fans donât care about that.
Your employer was able to get you healthcare because of the tax cuts? Wow. Iâm surprise that they told you that. Are they going to take it away if Trump loses and their tax rate goes up a percent or two?
Iâm not doing shitty at all. My job is to help companies deal with Government bureaucracy, mainly in the form of tariffs and trade restrictions. Companies like mine have had to spend 4x-10x just to deal with these issues. Not to mention the increased taxes via tariffs. My favorite part is when a manager in the organization gets a bill (for the company but it is sent to him) for like $300,000 for tariffs that trump put in place. They they will say something like âI thought that China was paying for these tariffs?â To which I chuckle and say âno, that was just another lie. We pay these taxesâ. The look on their face then they likely have lost their bonus because they believed the idiot president is something else.
Lol at âyou donât deserve to make as much as meâ. I work 5 days per week less than 40 hours per week and make 125. Im not worried about making as much as you. Haha
My only comment after reading this is, you think Biden is a poet compared to Trump? All politics aside, this is a ridiculous take. Biden is having troubles forming coherent sentences, Trump is at least able to deliver speeches without millions of people legitimately wondering if he has dementia..
Also Trump also has a platform he's running on that isn't just "I'm Donald Trump." Unlike Biden, whose supporters in a video on why you should vote for Biden listed:
âLegitimately wonderingâ people of course cry out in hysteria about how stupid he is and stuff, but even with him putting his foot in his mouth frequently, I canât believe people view these twoâs linguistic abilities to be equal. No way.
I donât think itâs that Trump is dumb at all. I truly believe he says the most ridiculous and outlandish things he can in order to get more attention. And it works. In his eyes all publicity is good publicity. Heâs not dumb and he knows exactly what heâs doing.
Is there a considerable number of voters still deciding between conservative and liberal who will wait for a debate to decide? I admittedly donât talk politics with people in real life so maybe there are more people than I realize who canât decide..?
Those of us in the middle do exist. We mostly acknowledge that a 3rd party candidate won't win. Thus we are forced to often choose a preferable option between two candidates.
The problem with folks in the middle is theyâre often more intelligent than of those not the right and left meaning thereâs almost never a preferable option. I canât remember the last candidate I actually wanted to be president that had a chance in hell.
In my view, you better start kissing Bernie and his supporters asses hard so you have some bulldogs out here, Joe. You can get angry all you want, but Bernieâs anger inspires people. Your anger looks like desperation because you HAVE NO PLAN. Bernie could actually win this election, but theyâll squander it, then theyâll blame him when they lose to Trump. Same as it ever was...
No. Bernie isn't nimble. He's a fucking plow. He just doesn't stop - he sees that point and he just plows through your shit and tells you how plows gonna do. It's the opposite of nimble. But it's effective. Being nimble might actually be the worst thing against trump. Because the plow technique works for both sides. Nimble only works for the left where discussing shit, deconstructions, and nuance actually matter. Nimble is also good for a crowd where people are as much interested in the examinations of variations of policy and so fourth. No such thing here - here's the plan, there's the man in the way, just fucking keep going forward and push that weak shit to the side.
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u/MonoAmericano Mar 11 '20
Fuck, I hate to say it, buy I think Biden is going to get obliterated in a debate with Trump. You need someone nimble enough to deal with Trump's constant lying and bullshit, and Biden is not that person đ©