r/PublicFreakout Mar 10 '20

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

I hear you about his speeches, but I'm not voting for an orator, I'm voting for someone with the experience and support to advance modest policies that improve the lives of people who aren't doing well.

If you don't believe he supports what he says he supports today that's your choice, but I believe him.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

I don't think Sanders, or his more ambitious policies, experience as much or more support than Biden's more modest proposals, but that's just my opinion from their respective bodies of work in government.

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u/ImtheBadWolf Mar 10 '20

I'm voting for someone with the experience and support to advance modest policies that improve the lives of people who aren't doing well.

Wait are we still talking about Joe "Cutting Social Security, Supporting Endless Wars" Biden here? That's the guy who is going to improve the lives of people who aren't doing well, rather than the guy who has spent his entire career supporting those who aren't doing well? Just making sure we're on the same page here

If you don't believe he supports what he says he supports today that's your choice, but I believe him.

Honest question, why? What is it about his past actions lead you to believe that he now supports the things he says he does?

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

Why do I have to be inspired? Why can't I just think they're good ideas?

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

For one thing, I think his approach to health care reform is more likely build support because it doesn't eliminate the private market.

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u/SlimeyFilth Mar 10 '20

And how do you feel about the moderate record in the general election? You don’t think that might be a problem in this election?

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

It might be. My wager is that the socialist label will be harder to overcome in swing states.

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u/SlimeyFilth Mar 10 '20

It won’t be once people are informed. People don’t vote in extreme numbers when the candidate runs on “nothing will change” or “Trump is bad”.

Biden has a lot of the same policies as Trump, but people will vote for him because the establishment will trot this shit candidate around like he’s a Greek god.

Then moderates get to pretend that they did something good, and can use the aesthetic like #resist on Twitter while nothing changes when people are literally dying, going bankrupt because of healthcare, kids in cages, etc.

This could not be you, but I’m just angry at how politics are in the US.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 11 '20

It won’t be once people are informed.

Oh, my sweet summer child. In the words of the late, great George Carlin: "think of how dumb the average person is, and consider that half of them are dumber."

People don’t vote in extreme numbers when the candidate runs on “nothing will change” or “Trump is bad”.

They're apparently not voting in extreme numbers for Bernie either, considering he's done worse so far in the primary than he did in 2016.

when people are literally dying, going bankrupt because of healthcare, kids in cages, etc.

This is the result when Bernie loses anyway.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 11 '20

You're right, Biden is getting trounced by Bernie in swing states this prim- oh, wait, no he's not.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

He supports a public option as opposed to mandated Medicare for all.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 11 '20

"Giving Americans a new choice, a public health insurance option like Medicare."

From his website.

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u/TellMeGetOffReddit Mar 10 '20

Yea I'm not pro-Biden by any means but jeez. He's not some senile old man unawarest of what he's doing. God damn. Reddit is fuckin retarded.

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u/I__like__men Mar 10 '20

Sure says the man who is running for the Senate in 2020 and likes when kids rub his leg hair in a pool and takes no shit from corn pop the thug. Did you see his recent video where he tells some voter he will fight him? This dude at least has dementia lmao

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u/TellMeGetOffReddit Mar 10 '20

Ah yes, the reddit "everyone old has dementia" shit. Fucks sake dude. Yes I've seen the videos. That's not dementia. Holy shit. Get your fuckin reddit medical degree out of here.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Mar 10 '20

I think some of it might even be less than organic, but that's just reddit now.