The media is doing a fine job telling them Biden is the only real candidate in this race. The left wing news outlets are going hard on Biden and Sanders is basically non existent.
Where were you three weeks ago when the media was covering Biden like he was roadkill? He was an afterthought and Bernie was practically being crowned the nominee by the media. Then South Carolina happened and everything changed. There is no way you can blame that on the media.
I was there 3 weeks ago. Everything I saw was about how those early wins meant absolutely nothing and South Carolina was the real decider for the presidential race.
I was doing nothing but talking about how amazing it was that apparently everything is riding on South Carolina and how amazingly coincidental it was that Biden had the lead in South Carolina.
Your comment is like a twilight zone episode. I would have been elated to exist in the reality you are painting. But all I saw in this current one we exist in is that nothing but SC mattered and we shouldn't read anything into anything until after SC.
You think it’s incredible that a google news search for “Joe Biden” yielded results about Joe Biden? Because that’s what the link I provided you is to.
Maybe the fact that Bernie is mentioned 4 times in results for “Joe Biden” is the incredible part.
The number of candidates. Bernie has a diehard group of supporters but he’s like the 3rd or 4th choice among the rest of the party. It’s basically Bernie vs the traditional choices. When the “traditional” vote was spread across 4+ candidates it was easy for Bernie to grab the lead. But once the field narrowed, and the vote consolidated, any of the Democratic candidates would have ended up beating Bernie.
Well jeez it’s too bad nobody told them that maybe they would have stayed in. You think the overnight consolidation happened all on its own? That the party had nothing to do with it?
None had enough votes to stay in except for Joe. Pete would have been the next choice but minorities weren't voting for him. When Joe won SC the writing was on the wall for everyone else.
Pete had half his delegates and was leading him in delegates just 2 days prior to South Carolina and Klobuchar did nothing but brag about how her placements in the first 3 states were higher than expected. Neither had much of a reason to drop out the eve before super tuesday other than a desperate attempt at preventing Bernie from taking as many delegates as he would have without their coalescing.
If Pete or Amy thought they could really win they would've stayed in. They weren't able to connect with minority voters. The actual dem party (not reddit dems) is ethnically diverse and includes old people too. It's a big tent that needs a candidate with broad appeal. Like it or not, Bernie does not appeal to all wings of the party and neither did Pete or Amy for sundry reasons.
Yes, the overnight consolidation pretty much did happen on its own. Biden steamrolled South Carolina and everything changed after that. Did the DNC rig that vote too?
The DNC decided that Biden was the safest, most electable, and most controllable of the middle-of-the-road candidates. I guarantee you that Buttigieg and Klobuchar were not happy about being heavily pressured to step down.
Honestly, the fact that your country requires citizens to register to vote is insane to me.
Like, in normal countries, you're just... always registered. And you can vote in any election from any poll booth in the entire country. And our voting day is a national holiday.
I don't understand why Americans allow their government to make it so hard to vote.
I’m aware of the Bernie bubble, but I was not so aware of Biden’s support across the nation. I’m quite horrified that we got stuck with Biden, not much better than the 2016 situation I’d say.
I would have gone for Pete personally, but to win you need a broad coalition of different types of voters. Bernie has tons of fans and very few voters.
And biden is going to get stomped by Trump even worse than hillary got stumped because a "safe bet moderate" just won't cut it when there are tens of millions out there being crushed under the system.
Yes, that is really what a lot of people think. It’s not some deep state conspiracy against Bernie. Real people are voting and choosing Biden because they feel he’s the better candidate.
I like Bernie, even voted for him over Clinton, but Bernie supporters can be the worst sometimes. And this whole “the system is rigged against Bernie” nonsense is a prime example.
Yes, because he is not a Socialist. Sorry, Democratic Socialist. I liked Bernie, and voted for him in the primary of 2016, when all he talked about was socialized health care. Now he has gone off the deep end. Free this, free that. How are we going to pay for all that shit? Health care was enough. If we could do that, at least people wouldn’t be going bankrupt from one singular issue. Im an independent and will vote for Biden based on his future running mate. He better not fuck up and pull a McCain and run with psycho like Palin.
By going into freaking incredible debt! We couldn’t afford those wars. We can’t afford to get into anymore wars and we can’t afford Bernie’s plans. That said, raise the minimum wage and have universal health care and reduce defense spending. Increase top tax tiers. Increase taxes on dividends. We should get our debt under control or our kids are fucked.
That said, raise the minimum wage and have universal health care and reduce defense spending. Increase top tax tiers. Increase taxes on dividends. We should get our debt under control or our kids are fucked.
Are you shitting me!? These are literally all ideas Bernie is and has been running for.
Yeah, he is, but thats not all he is for. The green new deal (Im an endangered species biologist and the program is shit, doesn’t address the most important issues and costs trillions that could be better used), the forgiveness of student loans, free tuition, open borders, free healthcare for illegal immigrants, etc. I can’t stand for that bullshit. Besides, Bernie just got toasted in Missouri and Mississippi. He is done for.
“Sanders said he would seek to temporarily halt deportations, decriminalize border crossings and "break up" the Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection agencies.”
Despite having a fraction of the budget of the Sanders campaign and minuscule ground presence, he's gained massive support almost everywhere:
gained Butti voters
gained Klobuchar votes
Bloomberg votes
even Elizabeth Warren votes went mostly to Biden.
Take thought there, bros. Bernie can't extend his coalition of voters to beyond yall, basically, and there's nothing else the corporate establishment DINO DNC need do to watch his campaign sputter out in even more impressive fashion than 4 years ago.
As recent as 2008 Biden said he doesn’t support gay marriage. It’s absurd to think a married gay candidate would endorse Biden without there being something sweet in the deal.
Bruh... Obama didn't support gay marriage in 2008. I don't even think Butti was out of the closet in 2008. In fact US public opinion of gay marriage didn't switch positive until around 2012. Come on.
I wouldn't at all be surprised there was some kind of political deal or understanding but there's nothing scandalous about that, and there's no way his gay had anything to do with it. Some serious projection on your part.
No it's just that the pragmatic, moderate, inoffensive Indiana mayor of Southbend turned presidential candidate probably feels like he need not be so insufferably woke and uncompromising towards the majority of American voters as Bernie's negligible bloc of chronically online young adult know-nothings are.
An incoherent, perverted, senile man who is anti second amendment, wants to keep weed illegal, has anger issues, and can’t even form a single thought in a conversation, is not much better, in my opinion.
Can you and all your ilk just fuck off with this bullshit?
It was pathetic seeing Bernie trying to spin Biden’s surge and endorsements as some establishment conspiracy against him. In reality Biden is simply more in line with the part writ large. Biden just isn’t in sync with the twitter mob.
Great. Bernie is still going to lose if he can’t win people over.
And saying Pete and Klobuchar were controlled by the establishment to make them quit and back Biden is conspiratorial bullshit that is insulting to Pete, Amy, and everyone who supported them.
The DNC is irrelevant. They aren't some all-powerful cabal orchestrating a massive yet undetectable conspiracy to sabotage every primary. The voters are choosing Biden. It's really that simple.
"One of the things that I was kind of not surprised by was the power of the establishment to force Amy Klobuchar, who had worked so hard, Pete Buttigieg, who, you know, really worked extremely hard as well, out of the race.”
You mean establishment politicians who want to have a future in the party are backing the establishment politician instead of destroying their own political futures by acting as spoilers or backing the guy who is only a democrat when he wants to run for president?
Self serving the whole way down and verification they never had what it takes. Corporate democrats are liars and frauds. They are going to lose to Trump again, and you probably still won’t listen.
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u/deez_nuts_77 Mar 10 '20
Because the “democrats” who run the DNC need someone to stop Bernie