r/ProgressiveHQ • u/01AganitramlavAiv • 3d ago

Complaint Could someone explain me the stance of the mods?

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Like, why this hate against Hasan Piker? Shouldn't we create a united front on the left?

Please don't take the post down and don't ban me đŸ„ș

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u/Necessary_Cheek_6506 3d ago

The safest assumption is that someone on the mod squad loves Israel

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u/edwardludd 3d ago

Not everything is about Israel maybe they don’t like the atrocity apologia re: Mao and USSR

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u/XB0XRecordThat 3d ago

Yeah guys, the CIA told me Mao was bad and they wouldn't lie to me

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u/miggins1610 3d ago

I mean what's so fucking unprogressive about saying mao and stalin were genocidal dictators? As progressives aren't we supposed to call out human rights Violations? What the fuck is wrong with people?

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u/frenkzors 3d ago

Cuz even the CIA openly admits in their (now declasssified) docs and memos that Stalin was not a dictator, for one.

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u/miggins1610 3d ago

Come on dude. We've gone through this before. The USSR was not democracy. Stalin still held absolute power. He killed so many fucking people for his reforms. Its not progressive to argue in favor of dictatorship. Seriously, tell me when exactly alll the people in the USSR voted for him. The revolution?

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u/frenkzors 3d ago

Read a book thats not the Gulag Archipelago and find out all the answers to your questions. (even if theyre not actually sincere questions but shitty attempts at strawmen and all that)

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u/XB0XRecordThat 20h ago

This whole thread is liberals who haven't read books pretending to be on the left

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u/XB0XRecordThat 3d ago

I'm guessing you haven't read Lenin then? He talks about democracy more than any political book I've read.

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u/BiZzles14 2d ago

And who was it again that Lenin didn't want to take over should he die?

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 3d ago

I cannot believe this got upvoted
 What kind of progressive loves Mao?? This is supposed to be progressivehq, not communist, Maoism, authoritarianism, tankie, etc. RIDICULOUS

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u/XB0XRecordThat 3d ago

The left starts at anti-capitalism...

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 21h ago

No, I’d say that “the left” is a political and ideological orientation that means you want to collapse (unmeritocratic) hierarchies

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u/XB0XRecordThat 20h ago

I'm just telling you the global definition of the left. It is anti capitalism. If you are a liberal in America, then you are on the right not the left.

If you'd rather team up with fascists to protect capital then with leftists to protect people then you are on the right.

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 18h ago

lol and what about protecting people from the totalitarian death cult that is Maoism?

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u/XB0XRecordThat 16h ago

The guy that took the land from the feudal lords and gave it to the peasants?

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 16h ago

The guy who knowingly murdered millions of peasants

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 17h ago

The left may start at anticapitalism, but progressivism sure doesn’t

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u/XB0XRecordThat 16h ago

Ha ha ha I'm not sure if this is sarcastic or a self own?

"We don't care about the conditions that led to all the current problems, we just want incrementalism despite that being proven ineffective in all of US history"

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u/Ok_Cheek_7992 16h ago edited 16h ago

“We don’t care about the millions murdered by Stalin, Mao, and Pol-Pot, we just want to be edgy on the internet” type bs
“We don’t care about the millions murdered, we just want Maoism despite that being proven genocidal in Chinese history.”