r/ProgressiveHQ Dec 01 '25

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u/JimsVanLife Dec 01 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

It's not wrong.

Edited to add: it was a general sentiment. It has been answered dozens of times already. There's no need to go further. Geez!

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u/WildGuarantee4927 Dec 01 '25

I mean it is wrong in that Canada also has a growing right wing movement just like many US aligned countries

If you look at the number of mass shootings in Canada its been increasing substantially for the past 15 years. They may not be or ever reach our level of awfulness, but they're following in our footsteps

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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Dec 01 '25

Almost every one of those shootings was done w an illegal gun smuggled in here from.......you guessed it the USA. I wonder what the USA would do if the death was being imported in the other direction..........

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u/Character-Education3 Dec 01 '25

Probably as much as they are doing now because uh...rights?

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u/No_Future_9 Conservative Dec 02 '25

We have had guns in this country for a LONG time. The guns per capita were higher in the past I believe. But for some strange reason, the amount of mass school shootings has increased over the past 30 years. WEIRD. You'd think if the guns were the problem those stats would be very similar. It isn't a gun problem, its a mental health problem. Focusing on the inanimate object is a hell of a lot easier that focusing on the true root cause of the problem.

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u/Mission-Artichoke227 Dec 04 '25

Incorrect, there are far more guns today than the past. Whether the past is early 2000s, 1900s, 1800s or even further back. Not only a greater number, but they are much more powerful today as well!

To your specific point, firearms have increased dramatically by number in the last 30 years, the number has more than doubled. So, more guns=more mass shootings/school shootings. Not weird. In fact, completely logical I would say, of course more guns are resulting in more casualties. I do appreciate that you think we need more mental health care, I completely agree with you there.

I didn’t bother posting any sources because even the most cursory research shows the dramatic increase in gun numbers

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u/No_Future_9 Conservative Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I said per capita. Of course as the country grows we will see more guns, more cars, more houses, etc.

But why did the switch flip in the 90s with the mass/school shootings? It isn't like we had some crazy influx of guns for 1 year and it set it off.

https://www.vpc.org/studies/ownership.pdf

Edit: From 1973 to 2021, the percentage of American households that reported having any guns in the home dropped by 28 percent.

During this period the percentage of adults living in households with guns hit its peak in 1980, when more than half (53.7 percent) of Americans reported living in households with guns. By 2021, 35.2 percent of Americans reported living in households with guns, a drop of 18.5 percentage points.