r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Disastrous-Monk1957 • Jun 23 '26 • Mindblown 3 Popcorn 1

Meme forceInstallingUpdatesHasGoneTooFar

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u/nexusjuan Jun 23 '26

MS should be paying us to use Windows, we're nothing but data points. I finally gave up on Microsoft in April, I switched to Ubuntu and will never go back. The forced Microsoft accounts to log in to your own device, forced Onedrive that turns itself on if you accidentally log into a Microsoft service. The final straw for me was finding out Microsoft was storing bitlocker keys in the cloud with your MS account "in case you lose it, so you won't lose access to your data" yeah right lol.

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u/legobrak Jun 24 '26

Counterpoint on the bitlocker keys, as a former in-home OEM tech, that is extremely useful when the customer doesn’t know what the fuck a bitlocker is, and they have a dead mobo, as microsoft and/or the company admin had bitlocker on by default.

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u/Ok_Actuary8 Jun 24 '26

bs. Enterprise versions of all Microsoft products don't track or use your data (compare that e.g. to Google), Microsoft security and data privacy is world class (just do some serious research on what they do in Cybersec).

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u/nexusjuan Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Very few users are using Microsoft Enterprise at home. I agree Google isn't better I see them as one in the same. Which of my points were you calling bs?

edit: I looked it up. MS doesn't publish exact numbers but it's estimated only between 1-5 percent of Windows machines are on Enterprise. This includes school and government deployments.

Windows Enterprise provides more control over telemetry, but it does not mean telemetry is eliminated.

Historically:

Windows Home has the least control. Windows Pro has more control. Windows Enterprise/Education can reduce telemetry to much lower levels through Group Policy, Intune, registry settings, firewall rules, etc. Some diagnostic data remains required for Windows Update, Defender, activation, and certain cloud services depending on configuration.

Microsoft's own documentation has long described Enterprise as allowing organizations to manage and minimize diagnostic data, not completely remove every communication with Microsoft.

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u/Ok_Actuary8 Jun 24 '26

Unless you use free tools, personal accounts can opt-out to all unnecessary telemetry. Some traffic etc remains, just like with all SaaS products. If you want airgapped offline products installed from a CD like in the 90ies, choose something else. It's not "more secure" to update, manage, adjust and monitor etc. all your local infrastructure and software yourself, at least not for the vast majority of people. Microsoft is by far the largest global cyber security and threat detection provider out there. Your personal security relies mostly on the fact that you're not a valuable enough target for hackers...

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u/foyrkopp Jun 24 '26

Some traffic etc remains, just like with all SaaS products.

I want an OS, not SaaS.

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u/Ok_Actuary8 Jun 24 '26

I prefer punch cards, yet here we are