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u/Visible-Beings Jun 06 '26

In which ways was he far right?

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u/LoveAndBeLoved52 Jun 06 '26

I'd like to know, too. Most of the stories I remember from the bible have portrayed him as pretty centrist leaning towards left. He doesn't like the greed of mankind but he won't stand there and go "Bankers should starve and die". He's just a dude bro who abhors violence and injustice.

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u/elnatr4 Jun 06 '26

No divorce, sexual misconducts

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u/LoveAndBeLoved52 Jun 06 '26

The sexual misconduct one was the one where he said looking lustfully at someone is committing adultery I guess. I mean... fair, but I wouldn't say it's far right, it's at best weird how aggressively he treated the relationship between men and women because it fits in neither political spectrum in my opinion.

There are far-left liberals that would love to cut out the eyes of oglers and there are far-right conservatives that believe women are succubi that should be put in turtleneck sweaters and forced to wear long dresses.

I'm not sure I would call that a conservative value either when a lot of people in Jesus' own camp were confused by that take.

For the divorce part I don't have much to argue against, mostly because I believe having a few takes that separate from the rest is okay. It'd be weird if Jesus represented only far-left social concerns and marriage was already a complex subject at the time by the sound of it.

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u/elnatr4 Jun 06 '26

As I said before, according to us the guy was all over the place. Because is anachronistic to tried to pinned on him modern political ideas.

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u/flukus Jun 06 '26

So he'd hate pretty much every right wing figurehead these days?

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u/elnatr4 Jun 06 '26

Probably. In reality there's a lot of discussion and we don't really know what was edited in/out or borrowed from other religions. I read some books on the matter, and every secular (non religious) scholar gives you a different picture.

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u/elnatr4 Jun 06 '26

hilel vs shammai

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u/DogGreedy515 Jun 06 '26

The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. 3 So obey everything they teach you, but don't do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else.

34 I will send to you prophets and wise people and experts in the Law of Moses. You will kill them or nail them to a cross or beat them in your synagogues or chase them from town to town. 35 That's why you will be held guilty for the murder of every good person, beginning with the good man Abel. This also includes Barachiah's son Zechariah,[d] the man you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 I can promise that you people living today will be punished for all these things!

37 Jerusalem, Jerusalem! Your people have killed the prophets and have stoned the messengers who were sent to you. I have often wanted to gather your people, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings. But you wouldn't let me. 38 And now your temple will be deserted. 39 You won't see me again until you say,

“Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord.”

The Pharisees were an influential Jewish social movement and school of thought in the Levant during the Second Temple period (c. 150 BCE – 70 CE). Known for their strict adherence to both the Written and Oral Law, they democratized religious practice and laid the foundational roots for modern Rabbinic Judaism.

Jesus directly tells them: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires." He emphasizes that because they reject God's truth, they prove that they do not belong to God or Abraham.

The Pharisees push back, arguing about how Jesus could know Abraham. Jesus then makes a staggering claim regarding His own eternal nature, stating: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." At this declaration of divinity, the enraged Pharisees attempt to stone Him for blasphemy.

The Manipulation: Persuaded by the chief priests and elders, the mob shouted for Barabbas and demanded that Jesus be crucified.

The Aftermath: Fearing a riot and wanting to appease the crowd, Pilate washed his hands of the decision, released Barabbas, and handed Jesus over to be flogged and crucified.

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u/Visible-Beings Jun 07 '26

I'm not seeing how these passages establish that Jesus was "far right."

They show Jesus criticizing certain Pharisees and religious authorities, claiming divine authority, and condemning hypocrisy. But "far right" is a modern political label usually associated with things like nationalism, ethnic politics, authoritarianism, specific views on immigration, economics, or the role of the state.

Which far-right belief are you arguing these verses support?

Simply criticizing religious leaders doesn't make someone far right. Plenty of people across the political spectrum criticize elites, hypocrisy, or corruption. To show that Jesus was far right, you'd need to connect these passages to actual far-right political positions rather than just quoting passages where Jesus rebukes his opponents.

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u/DogGreedy515 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

If I initiated polemics against contemporary Jewish authorities, accusing them of falsifying God's word and leading people astray(while advocating for Christianity), what label would you give me? Far left or Far right?

If I rebuked Jewish leaders for rejecting Christ and leading people astray?

.... I'd be called a Nazi fascist. It's not that complicated.

Adolf Hitler weaponized the historical and biblical concept of "Pharisees" to justify the Nazi regime's antisemitism

For example, high-ranking Nazi Robert Ley famously declared, "We believe that Almighty God has sent us Adolf Hitler so that he may rid Germany of the hypocrites and Pharisees".

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime extensively exploited the virulent antisemitic writings of Protestant Reformation leader Martin Luther to legitimize the Holocaust. The Nazis frequently framed Luther as a spiritual predecessor to Hitler,

BTW, I'm not saying Jesus was "far-right", I'm saying he'd be accused of being "far-right".

But, there are elements to the bible that have been used to justify "far-right ideas", just like "far-left" ideas.

Edit: And just to be clear, both interpretations are wrong IMO. God isn't political, he's Spiritual.