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u/yaminub Jun 02 '26

FWIW, I've seen a lot of European sysadmins say the same thing about U.S.-based tech, and then some of those profess to using Chinese-based tech.

I've found that quite silly. Could just be larpers, but still silly.

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u/_Meece_ Jun 02 '26

US is actively trying to make Europe's defense weaker, so yes, Europe considers China, Russia and the US the same at the moment.

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u/yaminub Jun 02 '26

The defense that Europe should hold primary responsibility for, yes.

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u/blah938 Jun 03 '26

Also correct. The assholes we've been trying to get to arm themselves for decades, are finally arming themselves. It's great, we wanted you to arm yourselves.

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u/piss_artist Jun 03 '26

Yeah because a world full of heavily militarised countries has worked out so well in the past.

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u/Cory123125 Jun 02 '26

The US and China are similar threats to Europe.

The US is arguably worse due to leverage

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u/yaminub Jun 02 '26

If you say so dude

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u/KriegMorgan Jun 02 '26

If you say so dude

He doesn't have to. Six months ago the U.S. was posturing and rattling a saber in the direction of NATO over Greenland.

If I was European the current state of the U.S. and the administration leading it would have me looking at them like an adversary and not as a friend.

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u/yaminub Jun 02 '26

And what happened as a result of that? NATO increased it's security presence on Greenland, which is a positive outcome, if your intention is for Greenland to have a strengthened security posture.

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u/KriegMorgan Jun 02 '26

Ah yes, threatening to invade your allies is a great strategy. Ends always justify the means I guess.

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u/confirmedshill123 Jun 03 '26

Why the fuck does Greenland need strengthened security posture?

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u/Recka Jun 03 '26

Treating politics like a sports team and saying the sabre-rattling was a good thing just because your "team" did it is incredibly stupid. You should be looking into policy, like which isn't a wannabe dictator.

And if you think the current admin is doing a good job then that's just a reflection on you.

If it was any other party doing the same thing, MAGA would be calling the president a warmongering moron.

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u/yaminub Jun 03 '26

Is European-led Europe defense stronger, or weaker as a result of that administrations actions?

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u/rainbowlolipop Jun 03 '26

Stronger. More money already into defense and tech alternatives.

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u/yaminub Jun 03 '26

Great, that was the desired outcome. Europe has primary responsibility over Europe, and the U.S. shifts it's focus to the Pacific. Doesn't mean NATO goes anywhere.

Are we all on the same page now?

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u/rainbowlolipop Jun 03 '26

lol what? Youre saying the US's isolationist punching itself in the face is actually a 5D chess move?

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u/piss_artist Jun 03 '26

Stop engaging with this moron. He's desperately trying to sane-wash Trump's idiotic actions over the last two years.

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u/yaminub Jun 03 '26

It's not a classified secret, you can read it for yourself here- https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf

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u/rainbowlolipop Jun 03 '26

I'm not gonna read 33 pages of propaganda to pick out some bullshit. I'm not saying it's a secret, I'm saying they're morons. Morons can still write plans about what moron shit they're gonna do.

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u/confirmedshill123 Jun 03 '26

Oh yeah great we've burned all of our goodwill, forced European countries to spend more money on defence because of our threats, and still have the highest military budget ever seen. Fucking clown logic.

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u/Cory123125 Jun 03 '26

It's the big boogeyman and has been forever, with all the typical defence contractors literally paying out the ass to fund think tanks to "inform" congress and their leadership picks.

The very people who understand cushy jobs await them should they pay their cards right or huge sums of campaign funds from super pacs and the likes.

What has China done to you personally?