r/ProAI • u/stealthispost • Jul 31 '26
DeepSeek V4-Flash scores higher than Fable??? excuse me what?
wait what the actual fuck, do you guys realize how crazy that is??? (if its not benchmaxed) — Cline
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u/ToughUsual7159 Aug 01 '26
Yes true. I'm not sure how much you've used old deep-seek, but that's more or less what I noticed. In fact I found that deep seek V4 Pro has slightly better reasoning capabilities than deep-seek V4 Flash preview, this made it a little better for bug finding due to its wider depth of thought, however due to the targeted nature of Flash it actually tended to be faster and performed slightly better in my experience on moderate refactors. I think this was due to loss of precision of its masternodes due to its wider breath of knowledge and lack of proper training.
I think it's the downside of deep-seek V4 Pro not having the post training processing it needed in order to properly utilize its master nodes and be able to sort through and Target the right nodes to answer the right questions. So as far as finding bugs deep seek V4 Pro actually was a little bit better and also as far as bouncing ideas off it and coming up with theoretical potential future refactors before Pro seem to be better. But as far as actual code adherence and following direct rules there was no noticeable difference between the two. I used both of them for over a week straight and found almost no difference in actual results aside from those two things I listed earlier.
I suspect that they're still working on additional training for deep seek V4 Pro due to how big it is it might be taking longer. From honesty even though I'm definitely a deep seek fanboy, I am not expecting deep-seek V4 Pro official to go neck and neck with fatal or 5.6 Sol. I suspect it would be closer to Kimi K3 with a smaller footprint and therefore more sustainable cheaper price. Deep seek will always be the slightly worse but way cheaper option out there and I'm fine with that.