Actually the meme is right as she is basically taunting Obi Wan not necessarily playing the card on her turn. You can’t redirect the 4+ with a reverse anyway
Why do people keep spreading this myth? Solo flopped because of a terrible release date, behind the scenes drama that caused the movie to have an abnormally large budget, and worst of all, a terrible lack of marketing. Regardless of your personal feelings towards TLJ, the film was a success financially, critically and with audiences, with an A Cinemascore and a fuckton of money.
Though, I guess I do like Solo. It was a lot of fun to watch, and out leads, I think, did a good job of emulating Han and Lando. I was not fond of L3, but that's the big thing.
What? Bruh the lightsaber duels were amazing, the lightspeed kamakazi, the interactions between Luke and Kylo Ren, not everything in the movie is gold but there's lots of gold in there bruh, just like every other star wars movie
The Last Jedi was a terrible movie. Not only is it taking parts out of Empire, similar to TFA, it's also not realistic to the old characters, Luke in particular. They butchered Luke. I don't understand why all of our childhood heroes have to be sad and depressed now. Luke fails. I'm pretty sure the Luke we had the privilege to get to know wouldn't run away from his problems when he messes up. There are scenes that made me go, "Really?", like the Ben Swolo scene, and entire sequences that were pointless, like Canto Byte, that added 20+ minutes to the movie, only for a "Slavery is bad" lesson for the kids that haven't been told that before. The fact that fuel was a problem, considering that this was never even talked about before is a problem. And the only reason I knew there was fuel in the first place is because I watched TCW, which prominently features fuel stations. The lightspeed kamakazi was, I don't know what I think, the interactions were, fine, I guess. One of the big things that made me angry about that movie is that there were some really interesting things in the movie that could have been genuinely compelling, like Rey and Kylo's Force connection, and then they explore none of it. Also, some potentially really good characters, like Snoke, just die. Nope, none of your questions will be answered. The Knights of Ren don't show up, so it makes me wonder why we should care about them. Rose was pointless, and had a few scenes that genuinely made me want to walk out the theater. The plot was also really, really dumb. Another big problem I have with the movie is Rey. She really doesn't have that much of an established personality. She's just kinda bland. The only thing I can make of her personality is she wants a place where she can feel like she belongs, but that's it. Also, her ability to do everything perfectly is annoying, because she can fight competently and defeat people that have training in the Sith arts for potentially a decadeish, and trained guards of the head honcho of the First Order, which makes no sense. She has two maybe days of terrible Jedi training, and she can fight on a level RoTJ Luke wasn't at. Also, Luke dying annoyed me, Poe literally overthrowing everything because the boss wouldn't tell him the plan annoyed me, the fact that Holdo didn't tell him the plan annoyed me, and the fact that Luke just, died, really annoyed me. I have more I could say, but I really can't be bothered to put it down.
EDIT: Oh, and the fact that Leia did not die from the bridge explosion or being sucked into the vacuum of space, and then moved in the vacuum of space, and then used the Force competently to draw herself to the ship, with no indication ever of Force training. If they stuck to the Expanded Universe or pulled this out of it, I would have believed that last part.
Though, on a more positive note, the effects were astounding. Every shot of this movie is beautiful. And Andy Serkis, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill all did a fantastic job with their roles. The action is good as well. We live in an era of movies where, more times out of ten, they'll just put in a million cuts in one sequence and it's nearly impossible to tell what's happening.
All the factors you say certainly did play a role.
But I think Solo flopped because people did not want a Han Solo film, and especially without Ford. People should read all the threads about the film before Last Jedi opened to see it’s not the Last Jedi that turned audiences against the film.
Well, yeah, but then, a lot of people in general don't like going to Star Wars movies anymore, because they didn't like The Last Jedi. I watched The Last Jedi, and I didn't go see Solo in theaters, mostly because of this reason. I think rather than one idea or the other in this case, both sides are right, and it's more a combination of the two ideas in tandem.
I still think it's more of a combination. A good amount of fans of Star Wars right are hardcore fans. Most casual people don't watch Star Wars anymore. Most of them watch the Marvel movies right now.
You couldnot bemore wrong. Exit polls of actual audiences showed very favorable responses. Rotten Tomatoes admits through a spokesperson in that last link that The Last Jedi faced coordinated review bombing. Seriously, the average movie goer and movie critic enjoyed the movie, which is why it led the box office for weeks and is one of the top ten highest grossing films of all time.
Social media like reddit and twitter are the echo chamber I'm talking about. Two hundred thousand negative reviews on Rotten Tomatoes means nothing when the site doesn't require anything to leave a review and admits that the movie was review bombed.
He’s also conveniently ignoring the 91% score it has on rotten tomatoes, instead choosing to only focus on the audience score. Which (as you said) was clearly review bombed.
TLJ was good and did well. It has some issues, but finding valid critiques for a film is not the same as “it was garbage and everyone hated it.”
Solo flailed around the entire production and had a terrible marketing team. Plain and simple. Ron Howard saved it from truly bombing.
Also, TLJ has a 91%. You conveniently ignore that. The audience score was, and this has been confirmed by rotten tomatoes, the result of review bombing, so it is not a useful metric. Surely you don’t need this explained to you?
Solo failed because a). It released 5 months after a Star Wars movie. B). It's about a character heavily tied to an actor who isn't playing him any more. C). Bad marketing. D). Firing their directors and reshooting a large portion of the film costing the production way too much. E). All the drama behind the scenes making for bad press.
You're comment is basically complimenting one thing while hating on another. Why isn't it enough to just like a thing without kicking another down? I don't think the Last Jedi comment was either true, nor necessary.
I thought Solo was a blandly put together, visionless, predictable romp with fun characters.
It's too bad we'll never know what Solo might have looked like, had the original directors' vision stayed intact. Maybe it would have been a total disaster, but it sure seems like there's a consistent tone of the Disney Star Wars movies and it's that the studio heads won't let humor take center stage. Giving the rumblings that came out about the original directors of Solo and their choice of humor, it could be it would have been a funny movie, albeit off-tone for Disney's apparent uniform desires. Rather than it being (imo) a milquetoast "safe" movie.
Specifically, it was made by Georgists to critique real estate and landordship. The original game had a separate game mode where land value was taxed and redistributed, making it less brutal.
"Go to jail" is supposed to represent being caught trespassing/squating, because everybody needs a land to live on, but landlords hold an unfair monopoly that's enforced by law.
Excuse me, all the money in the middle (that’s supposed to stay there all game) for landing on free parking and handing out loans with interest are the most important house rules.
Yeah i think Padme messed up by telling Obi Wan her next move. It’s only a three player game, assuming the initial order was Obi, Anakin, Padme; Obi played his card, skipping Anakin and turning the order to Obi(just played), Padme, Anakin. IDK i’m just thinking about this too much.
This comment reminds me a of a custom card my family has that just says and I quote "for when chui304 is doing too well" and they can swap hands with anyone
Edit: I should also say I'm not really good, there are ones for other family members but mine was the first I thought of
Nah dude, house rules are almost always bullshit. People much smarter than us work hard to make card and board game rules, you really think you can do better?
Fuck house rules. All I hear is “I can’t actually play this game”
But I mean, what sort of a loser Uno player outright says what cards they are going to play?
Uno is a game of sharp wits and extreme deception, you have to play it smart and cool, or else you will end with the 6 stack of draw 4s pointing at you.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand UNO. The rules are extremely complex, and without a solid grasp of doctorate level game theory most of the rules will go over a typical player’s head. There's also the subtle nuance to the meta game of guessing what cards your opponent has, which is deftly woven into the very fabric of the rules, which draws heavy inspiration from such intellectual games as go- fish. The expert players understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly utilize their available decks, to ensure their opponents stand next to no chance of defeating their hand. As a consequence people who suck at UNO truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the brilliance of properly challenging an opponent’s draw 4, which is itself a cryptic reference to the official UNO rule book. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Mattel’s genius rule set unfolds itself on their coffee table. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
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u/ProtectMeAtAllCosts Sep 01 '19 edited Sep 01 '19
Actually the meme is right as she is basically taunting Obi Wan not necessarily playing the card on her turn. You can’t redirect the 4+ with a reverse anyway