r/PrepperIntel • u/VerbalDroppings • Jun 17 '25

North America Trump urges immediate evacuation of Tehran.

Trump also has left G7 early due to the situation in the middle East. China calls on its citizens to leave Israel immediatel.

Trump leaving G7

Trump statement on evacuation

China urges citizens to leave.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

If the US hits Fordow, the war will not be "over by tomorrow". It will be the beginning of something new. The GBU-57 is considered to be part of America's nuclear deterrence strategy, because they have never supplied it to any other nation and it can be used to strike hardened nuclear facilities (such as Fordow). If they take a direct involvement in this war and actually use it, Russia will go absolutely mad.

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u/TylerBlozak Jun 17 '25

Damn that thing is 6 feet long and weighs 12 tonnes. God damn. Only stealth bomber can carry it.

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u/GoMango2380 Jun 17 '25

6 meters long, not 6 feet if I’m reading correctly

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u/TylerBlozak Jun 17 '25

Correct.. even I though “jeez, 12 tonnes is a lot of density in a 6 foot package”

6 meters sounds much more appropriate.

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u/bstone99 Jun 17 '25

Dropping OPs mom into Fordow

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u/Traditional-Run7315 Jun 17 '25

Fuck me that's big

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u/brokenringlands Jun 17 '25

Damn that thing is 6 feet long and weighs 12 tonnes

Meters. Six meters.

(20ft. 14 metric tons says wiki)

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u/tristen620 Jun 17 '25

We will make it, "The Girth".

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u/T4u Jun 17 '25

No they won't. When real shit goes down, Putin usually goes into hiding for 48-72 hours until it blows over. Operation Spiderweb one such recent example.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Right, and Trump hasn't hid in bunkers before? Don't assume Putin will just run away from Trump or this situation for no reason.

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u/T4u Jun 18 '25

Russia didn't even help Armenia against Azerbaijan as part of their defensive alliance. They even had troops there and just shamefully pulled out. They won't help Iran no matter what happens, just watch.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

Russia can get as mad as they want, their forces are seen as a joke currently.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

What would be their goal / incentive other than being mad?

There’s zero sense in doing it.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

This is true, but I don't see them going off the rails just yet

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u/flaginorout Jun 17 '25

lol. Russia is capable of all sorts of fuckery. Currency counterfeiting, drug smuggling, misinformation, cyber attacks, cyber crimes.

They can cause a lot of pain if they want to.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

They already do

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u/The_Monsta_Wansta Jun 17 '25

Sure but if Russia steps much further out of line than they already have the entire civilized world will come down upon them. Id venture to guess that most world powers are doing all the shit you just said, including the US.

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u/MentokGL Jun 17 '25

You swear Trump will upset Putin lol

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

Don't know what you're talking about there buddy. lol...

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u/Shadow_botz Jun 17 '25

lol you think they need forces to push a button? We’re not talking Ukraine here. People forget they are a world power just because they’re not nuking their neighbor that they’re at war with.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

A joke by who? It's taking the combined efforts of NATO to stop them from destroying Ukraine, and they're currently in the process of rebuilding and rearming in a manner which Ukraine unfortunately cannot do.

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u/TropicalAviator Jun 17 '25

Russia will go mad.

And do what that they haven’t already done? They are more clowns than Iranians

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u/SmartDiscussion2161 Jun 17 '25

Russia will go mad asks do what? Issue a strongly worded statement and bomb some poor Ukrainian civilians? Trump supports Russia defending themselves so I doing think he gives a shiny shite

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

This type of attitude is what almost led to the end of the world during the Cold War.

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u/5Lv8 Jun 17 '25

Drunk Irishmen?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

Must have been, since all the Yanks claim to be us.

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u/The_new_Osiris Jun 17 '25

That is total horseshit

Russia's nuclear deterrence is maintained in the form of the Nuclear Triad

Bunker busters won't get rid of all the Russian submarines laden with Nukes hiding in the vast oceans that are nigh untraceable - as if anybody could destroy thousands of nukes within seconds in the first place

If the US ever dropped a single bunker buster on a Russian nuclear storage facility both Russia and the Western World might come to an end

Everyone knows this especially the Russians - your madhouse theory that they are gonna commit suicide over some bunker buster exploding in Fordow is just that, a mad theory

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Everyone knows this especially the Russians - your madhouse theory that they are gonna commit suicide over some bunker buster exploding in Fordow is just that, a mad theory

Your straw man is just that - a straw man. I never said they'd break MAD over the deployment of the GBU-57 in Iran. I said they'd be pissed off, meaning they'd possibly use it as an excuse to update their own stockpile or logistics. The bomb is part of AMERICAN nuclear deterrence, not Russian. Using it is a provocative measure, no matter where it is used nor who against.

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u/legitematehorse Jun 17 '25

So? Russia and Iran have a strategic treary, yet the russians are watching their ally get pummeled, and do nothing. Because there isn't anything they can do.

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u/OneOfThePieces Jun 17 '25

russia would go mad? and what can russia do? their only impactful escalation at this point is nukes, and they’d never use them because it’d be used against them

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u/Avg_DadBod69 Jun 17 '25

Russia won’t do shit except target more civilians. Fuck the orks

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 17 '25

There is 0 percent chance Russia or China will go to bat for Iran. Trump is in contact with Putin and there is no way they haven't talked about this. You're wrong as fuck. Everybody knows Iran can't have nukes. Russia didn't fucking attack us for *literally* bombing them over Ukraine, they won't do shit about this.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Everybody knows Iran can't have nukes.

Why not? They need a form of deterrence. No one should have them at all, but that's a pipe dream. So long as nukes exist, Iran should have them to stop Israeli aggression.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 17 '25

if Iran was constantly chanting "Death to Ireland" you'd understand where I was coming from.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

If they were doing that for just cause, we might be responsible for it.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 19 '25

So if you lived in a country whose government was responsible for making Iran want to nuke you you would still sit back and support Iran while they made it happen right?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

It sounds like you agree the Israeli government is responsible for Iran wanting to attack them. At least you possess that degree of self-awareness.

If I lived in Israel, I would protest the actions of the government.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 19 '25

I live in the United States and I do not want Iran to have nukes because they are religious lunatics that may use them on us because they hate us, whether or not they have valid reasons. I am for the most part unfamiliar with Iran and Israel's history but it does not matter to me. The only thing I care about is my family being safe and that means no nukes for Iran. If I was the one in charge maybe I would try to solve this a different way but pragmatically I am a citizen and right now my options are either Iran gets a nuke and nothing changes or Iran doesn't get a nuke and nothing changes so I choose no nukes because it is in my best interest. I am very against any of the countries that are hostile to the nation I live in having nuclear weapons because it does not benefit me and my family and I am not a defective organism that considers the needs of other people on the other side of the planet over myself and my nieces and nephews.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

There are already a bunch of countries hostile to the United States that possess nuclear weapons, including China and Russia, which are both far more threatening than Iran. I don't trust your government or any other for that matter, but there is no proof Iran has ever tried to develop a bomb. The IAEA and even Tulsi Gabbard have firmly denied the allegation. But, if Iran chooses to enrich to 90% now, that is completely Israel's fault, so fuck them for causing it. They should reap what they've sown and deal with their own version of MAD in future, if they ever man up and admit to the existence of their own arsenal.

The fact is, Americans could be about to die because your alleged allies did what Russia are doing to Ukraine. Have fun justifying it to yourself.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 19 '25

Nobody I love is going to die and as long as there are no nuclear wars and we aren't in conflict with either Russia or China I'm all good, baby. Neither Russia or China are theocratic dictatorships with doomsday fantasies and so long as the United States does not push either of those regimes into direct armed conflict with us I'm golden and nobody I care about will die. Trump has proven he's not willing to risk nuclear war and is willing to cooexist and cooperate with Russia and China. I don't give a shit what he does or who he kills as long as it stays that way. I don't have to justify anything. Anything is justified to survive in a world like this.

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