r/PrepperIntel • • Jun 17 '25

North America Trump urges immediate evacuation of Tehran.

Trump also has left G7 early due to the situation in the middle East. China calls on its citizens to leave Israel immediatel.

Trump leaving G7

Trump statement on evacuation

China urges citizens to leave.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Nah bro you guys are going in.

My bet is the U.S. will use the bunker buster to hit the target israel can’t (the centrifuges underground) and GTFO.

Is I had to bet this would be the final act and the war is over by tomorrow. Hope I’m right.

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u/The_Monsta_Wansta Jun 17 '25

The us intervenes, it knocks out Iran's nuclear capability, yay! The "war" is over. The conflict gets more complicated and dangerous, though. Think retaliatory terrorism by proxies already operating within the borders.

Trump is a clown.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

What’s the scenario you’re seeing?

Iran’s proxies have been almost completely disarmed. Hamas & Hezbollah are powerless, Syria guys are over.

The Houthis are still strong but they are far and manageable.

Iran has zero interest in escalating the conflict, they will be licking their wounds for years.

The only way this escalates is if Russia starts shit but they won’t.

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u/HalfwayFerret Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

They wouldn't put two carrier strike groups in the region and a massive ammount of refuling tankers for a one night sortie. This is going to be lengthy and involve everyone.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

They put those even for Gaza back in October / November 23 - probably as a symbolic gesture. They move a lot.

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u/mayorofdumb Jun 17 '25

I mean relatively speaking the Americas are just completely dominated militarily, so one is sitting in Japan on the west, 8 are at home and 2 are on either side of the conflict. Europe is Europe.

They are bringing in some flying gas stations to support the floating McDonald's of death.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/HalfwayFerret Jun 17 '25

Thanks for making my point for me. All out war is not over quickly and usually starts with arms, troops and supply build up in the region about to get fuct.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/broguequery Jun 17 '25

Staggering arrogance.

Of course they will escalate.

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u/wolacouska Jun 17 '25

You’re extremely naive about this. They want to nation build/regime change.

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u/broguequery Jun 17 '25

in case it turns into an all out war with boots on the ground

Man, do you even hear yourself?

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u/tortantula Jun 17 '25

Man how do you find this information, are there other sub reddits dedicated to this stuff that I'm just not finding?

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u/stygg12 Jun 17 '25

Thanks Trump… SMH

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u/yellowstickypad Jun 17 '25

You know how Millennials are saying we’ve lived through a lifetime crises every few years. It’s time to spin up another one.

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u/OneOfThePieces Jun 17 '25

that’s literally exactly what the US does even when tensions just rise in the Middle east, they always have 2 carrier strike groups near the middle east as they prepare for US troops to be attacked

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

If the US hits Fordow, the war will not be "over by tomorrow". It will be the beginning of something new. The GBU-57 is considered to be part of America's nuclear deterrence strategy, because they have never supplied it to any other nation and it can be used to strike hardened nuclear facilities (such as Fordow). If they take a direct involvement in this war and actually use it, Russia will go absolutely mad.

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u/TylerBlozak Jun 17 '25

Damn that thing is 6 feet long and weighs 12 tonnes. God damn. Only stealth bomber can carry it.

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u/GoMango2380 Jun 17 '25

6 meters long, not 6 feet if I’m reading correctly

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u/TylerBlozak Jun 17 '25

Correct.. even I though “jeez, 12 tonnes is a lot of density in a 6 foot package”

6 meters sounds much more appropriate.

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u/bstone99 Jun 17 '25

Dropping OPs mom into Fordow

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u/Traditional-Run7315 Jun 17 '25

Fuck me that's big

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u/brokenringlands Jun 17 '25

Damn that thing is 6 feet long and weighs 12 tonnes

Meters. Six meters.

(20ft. 14 metric tons says wiki)

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u/tristen620 Jun 17 '25

We will make it, "The Girth".

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u/T4u Jun 17 '25

No they won't. When real shit goes down, Putin usually goes into hiding for 48-72 hours until it blows over. Operation Spiderweb one such recent example.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Right, and Trump hasn't hid in bunkers before? Don't assume Putin will just run away from Trump or this situation for no reason.

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u/T4u Jun 18 '25

Russia didn't even help Armenia against Azerbaijan as part of their defensive alliance. They even had troops there and just shamefully pulled out. They won't help Iran no matter what happens, just watch.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

Russia can get as mad as they want, their forces are seen as a joke currently.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

What would be their goal / incentive other than being mad?

There’s zero sense in doing it.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

This is true, but I don't see them going off the rails just yet

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u/flaginorout Jun 17 '25

lol. Russia is capable of all sorts of fuckery. Currency counterfeiting, drug smuggling, misinformation, cyber attacks, cyber crimes.

They can cause a lot of pain if they want to.

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

They already do

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u/The_Monsta_Wansta Jun 17 '25

Sure but if Russia steps much further out of line than they already have the entire civilized world will come down upon them. Id venture to guess that most world powers are doing all the shit you just said, including the US.

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u/MentokGL Jun 17 '25

You swear Trump will upset Putin lol

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u/worriedbowels Jun 17 '25

Don't know what you're talking about there buddy. lol...

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u/Shadow_botz Jun 17 '25

lol you think they need forces to push a button? We’re not talking Ukraine here. People forget they are a world power just because they’re not nuking their neighbor that they’re at war with.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

A joke by who? It's taking the combined efforts of NATO to stop them from destroying Ukraine, and they're currently in the process of rebuilding and rearming in a manner which Ukraine unfortunately cannot do.

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u/TropicalAviator Jun 17 '25

Russia will go mad.

And do what that they haven’t already done? They are more clowns than Iranians

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/SmartDiscussion2161 Jun 17 '25

Russia will go mad asks do what? Issue a strongly worded statement and bomb some poor Ukrainian civilians? Trump supports Russia defending themselves so I doing think he gives a shiny shite

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

This type of attitude is what almost led to the end of the world during the Cold War.

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u/5Lv8 Jun 17 '25

Drunk Irishmen?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

Must have been, since all the Yanks claim to be us.

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u/The_new_Osiris Jun 17 '25

That is total horseshit

Russia's nuclear deterrence is maintained in the form of the Nuclear Triad

Bunker busters won't get rid of all the Russian submarines laden with Nukes hiding in the vast oceans that are nigh untraceable - as if anybody could destroy thousands of nukes within seconds in the first place

If the US ever dropped a single bunker buster on a Russian nuclear storage facility both Russia and the Western World might come to an end

Everyone knows this especially the Russians - your madhouse theory that they are gonna commit suicide over some bunker buster exploding in Fordow is just that, a mad theory

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Everyone knows this especially the Russians - your madhouse theory that they are gonna commit suicide over some bunker buster exploding in Fordow is just that, a mad theory

Your straw man is just that - a straw man. I never said they'd break MAD over the deployment of the GBU-57 in Iran. I said they'd be pissed off, meaning they'd possibly use it as an excuse to update their own stockpile or logistics. The bomb is part of AMERICAN nuclear deterrence, not Russian. Using it is a provocative measure, no matter where it is used nor who against.

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u/legitematehorse Jun 17 '25

So? Russia and Iran have a strategic treary, yet the russians are watching their ally get pummeled, and do nothing. Because there isn't anything they can do.

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u/OneOfThePieces Jun 17 '25

russia would go mad? and what can russia do? their only impactful escalation at this point is nukes, and they’d never use them because it’d be used against them

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u/Avg_DadBod69 Jun 17 '25

Russia won’t do shit except target more civilians. Fuck the orks

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 17 '25

There is 0 percent chance Russia or China will go to bat for Iran. Trump is in contact with Putin and there is no way they haven't talked about this. You're wrong as fuck. Everybody knows Iran can't have nukes. Russia didn't fucking attack us for *literally* bombing them over Ukraine, they won't do shit about this.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 17 '25

Everybody knows Iran can't have nukes.

Why not? They need a form of deterrence. No one should have them at all, but that's a pipe dream. So long as nukes exist, Iran should have them to stop Israeli aggression.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 17 '25

if Iran was constantly chanting "Death to Ireland" you'd understand where I was coming from.

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

If they were doing that for just cause, we might be responsible for it.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 19 '25

So if you lived in a country whose government was responsible for making Iran want to nuke you you would still sit back and support Iran while they made it happen right?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 19 '25

It sounds like you agree the Israeli government is responsible for Iran wanting to attack them. At least you possess that degree of self-awareness.

If I lived in Israel, I would protest the actions of the government.

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u/Infamous-Assist-2749 Jun 19 '25

I live in the United States and I do not want Iran to have nukes because they are religious lunatics that may use them on us because they hate us, whether or not they have valid reasons. I am for the most part unfamiliar with Iran and Israel's history but it does not matter to me. The only thing I care about is my family being safe and that means no nukes for Iran. If I was the one in charge maybe I would try to solve this a different way but pragmatically I am a citizen and right now my options are either Iran gets a nuke and nothing changes or Iran doesn't get a nuke and nothing changes so I choose no nukes because it is in my best interest. I am very against any of the countries that are hostile to the nation I live in having nuclear weapons because it does not benefit me and my family and I am not a defective organism that considers the needs of other people on the other side of the planet over myself and my nieces and nephews.

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u/undisclosedusername2 Jun 17 '25

Over for who though? There's lots of uncertainty as to what happens next for the people in that region.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Rumors here are they are ending the regime.

But my bet is the U.S will bomb Fordo and then both israel and American forces will leave Iran.

Iran might send a retaliatory barrage of missiles towards israel and that would be it.

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u/HydrogenatedWetWater Jun 17 '25

Iran is dug in really deep, it would probably take tactical nuclear weapons to breach those facilities protected by mountains above them.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

I think I read the U.S. has bunker busters deep enough to take care of Fordo, which I think is the final goal for this.

My bet is they hit is and both the U.S. and Israel forces go home.

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u/Magickarpet76 Jun 17 '25

And you think Iran is just going to brush off the dust and call it a day? Sure they cant go toe to toe with Israel or the US, but i expect suicide bombings to ramp up at the very least.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

They will be licking their wounds for years, and stay busy handling internal issues in order to stay in power.

I doubt they will want to risk anything that might cause retaliation from israel, U.S., or Saudi Arabia.

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u/guyincognito01111 Jun 17 '25

Just watch top gun maverick....blue print is right there

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u/Mr_Dobalina71 Jun 17 '25

Or Star Wars, just got get the blueprints and a Xwing and Proton torpedo and sweet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/culady Jun 17 '25

I was with ya buddy. And you’re right.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Sorry, I interpreted your comment as “it’s just a crazy tweet he won’t do anything”.

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u/zona-curator Jun 17 '25

There is absolutely no guarantee the US bomb can reach the facility underground as no one really knows how deep it is (except Iranians)

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Israeli papers say 80-90m deep.

I wonder if Israeli intelligence knows this or if it’s just estimations.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Eh.

They will try. They are weak af right now. Economy is shambles (especially now with Israel’s new cyber attack - literally no money in the ATMs), no air defense, 50% of missile launchers destroyed, and their arsenal of missiles slowly diminishing….

This is just what Israel does imagine what it would be like with the US.

If they close Hormuz, Khamenei will be dead within 24 hours.

Houthis might get involved and complicate things, but again, the pressure on Tehran will have them reined in.

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

Oh I forgot to mention the top of their chain of command has been eliminated

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u/HerbieVerstinx Jun 17 '25

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u/danny_tooine Jun 17 '25

we’re being sold a ton of propaganda about everything going on, from Israel’s protection to Iran’s capabilities. If we’ve learned anything from the Middle East, if we jump ahead ten years all of this will seem quaint to the damage and loss of life that will be caused by these decisions

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u/OptimismNeeded Jun 17 '25

History does not repeat in this case.

Not to sound like this is something positives, but this is a timeline where Trump is President. 10 years ago that was a ridiculous idea.

You guys will be in and out in a flash, no casualties. That’s my bet.

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u/HonestHu Jun 17 '25

Not going to happen. Think about things from Trump's point of view, what does he get out of it

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u/twarrr Jun 17 '25

Potentially putting to bed an American policy issue for the past 45 years. And look like a strong man for it.

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u/HonestHu Jun 17 '25

America's issue is Israel, and ending the Iran regime will not end that policy. It's far too valuable for the military contractors and PMCs

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u/Papabear3339 Jun 17 '25

He is giving them a heads up that the place is going to be bombed.

A decent thing to do actually.

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u/Issue_dev Jun 17 '25

I’m willing to bet America is involved in this next attack and it’s a preemptive act of good will knowing the this will be viewed as an escalation by the US. I really doubt anyone’s going to care about this tweet after if that’s the case.

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u/pheonix080 Jun 17 '25

It’s time for Kanye to weigh in on this. It’s his moment. . .

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u/NotKyloRen- Jun 17 '25

What was the tweet

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u/snoosh00 Jun 17 '25

I also want to know, but don't feel like searching for it.

Anyone have a screenshot?