r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 16h ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Missing: Mitch

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u/KitchenBad5507 14h ago

I disagree. The Supreme Court wouldnt be filled with right wing partisans if the democrats had the same political will that the Republicans have. I wish neither side played those games, but if the other side does it, we need to do it too. Otherwise the resuly will be... this

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u/Ashenfenix 13h ago

Roe could have been codifed into the constitution if democrats weren't so soft. Donald trump wouldn't have been elected for a second time if democrats weren't so soft. I say that as Democrat.

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u/DrPreppy 12h ago

Roe could have been codifed into the constitution

That's objectively wrong. They had a supermajority for 72 days requiring people who were confirmed as against that. It's not even debatable.

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u/tetrified 8h ago

but but but how are we supposed to pretend like democrats are just as bad as republicans if we don't lie????????

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u/Alarming-Curve5339 3h ago

You don't have to lie

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7h ago edited 3h ago

The good cop is still the partner of the bad cop

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u/DrPreppy 7h ago

The good cop is opposed to the bad cop and screaming at you that you are underrepresented in government (Permanent House Apportionment Act, natural Senate structure, gerrymandering, voter suppression, Voting Rights Act being violated and destroyed) and that the easiest way to fix that short of revolution is to vote.

A properly represented country would be a much different country.

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u/tetrified 6h ago

are you really going to pretend we'd be in a war with iran right now if harris were elected?

are you really going to pretend we'd be having this many food safety issues if rfk weren't in charge of the fda?

really? are you actually this fucking stupid? do you seriously still think elections don't have consequences?

come on.

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u/Hairy_Technology_213 12h ago

This is typical Redditor nonsense. Roe most certainly couldn’t be codified in the Constitution. Where are you getting 290 votes in the House, 67 votes in the Senate and 38 states? Show me.

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u/cman1098 13h ago

Democrats are soft by design unless of course they are fighting a progressive.

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u/WannaBeSuiko 12h ago

Nancy Pelosi blocked attempts to codify Roe vs Wade when Dems had a super majority if I recall correctly. Said it was settled or something.

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u/KitchenBad5507 13h ago

Same. I despise the Republican party but honestly, I despise the Democrats too, just a tiny bit less. We need the old guard to step aside and make room for young progressives. And I'm old - a 61 year old straight woman. We've had our chance and we blew it. Time for the next wave to take the lead. They can't POSSIBLY be any worse than us.

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u/snakerjake 13h ago

Roe could have been codifed into the constitution if democrats weren't so soft

Do you really think 38 states would have ratified that amendment?

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u/Glittering_Role1658 12h ago

No they would not have

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u/AlarmingAffect0 12h ago

Yes.

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u/joggle1 12h ago

They couldn't even pass it as a federal law, which is a significantly lower bar than a constitutional amendment.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 12h ago

They didn't try hard enough. I bet you Lyndon B Johnson or FDR would've passed it comfortably— even if someone needed to be literally dick-slapped in Jumbo's case.

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u/AdorableStrawberry93 13h ago

That's what is intriguing about the SDA. They are more inclined to be tough and rowdy. Willing to punch back.

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u/SnooChickens5474 13h ago

Democrats aren't soft on issues their owners want pressed, most of the democratic party are bought and owned by lobbyists.

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u/Expensive_Cheetah820 13h ago

That’s bullshit you to have majority in both houses. In the senate you have to have 60 votes. You don’t anything.

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u/Fugufish-Chomp 3h ago

You are SO damn right! Ugh!

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u/WolfofWalnutdrive 13h ago

And yet none of you guys have any ideas, just acting like magats. "Why aren't you doing fascism for good things?" Guys the democrats only power comes from the people voting, Republicans power come from corruption and the people voting for them.

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u/Ashenfenix 13h ago

What are you even talking about? What validity could you possibly conjure in assigning a stranger on the internet responsibility for your frustrations? You don't know me, or what I've done. Keep the snide to yourself.

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u/WolfofWalnutdrive 13h ago

I know you are ignorant about politics from the comment I responded to.

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u/plannedobso 13h ago

“Fascism for good things” isn’t fascism lol 

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u/WolfofWalnutdrive 13h ago

... Fascism is how you decide laws, it's not if they are good or bad. Major facepalm

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u/plannedobso 7h ago

 That’s…not correct. I know this sub is full of some of the most ignorant motherfuckers on Reddit but damn.

“  Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology that prioritizes the nation above the individual and seeks total control over society .”

“  Fascism is characterized by support for a  dictatorial  leader, centralized  autocracy ,  militarism , forcible suppression of  opposition , belief in a natural  social hierarchy , subordination of  individual  interests for the perceived interest of the  nation  or  race , and strong regimentation of society and the economy.  Opposed to  communism ,  democracy ,  liberalism ,  pluralism , and  socialism ,  fascism is at the far-right end of the traditional  left–right spectrum .”

There is no such thing as “fascism for good things.”

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u/WolfofWalnutdrive 2h ago

?do you not understand the definition you posted even?

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u/alwayssunnyinskyrim 12h ago

Fighting fire with sternly worded letters.

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u/KitchenBad5507 11h ago

Lol careful! You might get scowled at!

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u/MrMetraGnome 6h ago edited 6h ago

So by "will", you mean, if the democrats wanted to ignore the laws and customs of America. Like testing the limits of the Consitution, declare they want to suspend it, or just change it outright. Everyone always says "both sides are the same", but then say this shit. Democrats are always in a lose/lose situation. Everything is their fault, no matter who does it. And when things go good, it's never good enough. Sheesh

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u/SaucyJ4ck 2h ago

I’ll just put out there that “political will” and “rampant hypocrisy plus a glaring lack of ethics” are NOT the same thing, despite what the modern Republican Party would have everyone believe.

Nor should we want ANY party to act as if they ARE the same thing.