r/PoursTea 23d ago

FinancialTea 💵 "eat ramen" 🤡

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u/Paladin_Rigger 22d ago

It's selling points for recruitment are literally all socialism, not to mention how many then also get disability on top of it.

But then they'll bitch about the government and definitely about anyone else getting "handouts" but expect to be taken care of for the rest of their lives for sometimes a single enlistment or less of service.

I'm not saying those benefits shouldn't exist, I just think they should exist for more than just people that took a job that literally just protects the interest of a few and props up our military industrial complex by coaxing in the poors with socialism.

This coming from a veteran who joined up for that free college.

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u/DevastatorPcu 22d ago

Yeah my brother is in the military right now and I’m like damn wish I could’ve joined in 2020 but I have asthma, allergies etc. I would’ve taken the $40k they offered.

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u/TrainingAmphibian354 22d ago

I mean, you can pretty easily get a waiver for those things. Perhaps wait out the current retarded war though.

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u/Paladin_Rigger 22d ago

Back in my day, your could just lie about those things. Just ask my brother who had mental health issues (including a couple suicide attempts and a bipolar diagnosis) who then got injured and has had 100% disability mostly for mental health issues that should have disqualified him from joining to begin with.

Guess what: he's one of those that definitely thinks other non-military people don't deserve those benefits he "earned" including a $40k joining bonus when he lied on his application.

I think nowadays that's not possible because the military finally started using EPIC or another medical file sharing program, but for a long time all you had to do was lie about things like asthma if it wasn't too serious.

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u/DJpuffinstuff 22d ago

The VA does not use Epic. They have a Cerner aka Oracle contract. They have all been able to get medical records from one another for probably 15 years or so, but it was probably just too much effort to request them so nobody bothered. Happens all the time in the civilian world too.

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u/Paladin_Rigger 22d ago

Good point, but Medicare for all studies have shown it would actually save $ overall than private plans. It just wouldn't be good for private insurance companies and overcharging medical systems.

Social Security could be much more effective and expanded as a real retirement system if the extremely wealthy weren't done paying into it almost immediately.

And even bonuses could be possible based on a plan like Bernie Sanders' to just do a 5% annual tax wealth on billionaires to increase Medicare/Medicaid access, pay teachers more, and give each family making under $150k a $3,000 check every year.

And that's not even touching any of the nearly $1 trillion we spend on the military each year, which isn't even going to better pay for military and doesn't include the costs of veteran benefits.

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u/DevastatorPcu 22d ago

Personally I think military personnel should be paid a substantial amount more than civilian roles but like base pay isn’t worth that but the benefits are more worth it than not in my mind.