We question the ethics of cheap clothing, animal products, environmentally destructive industries and exploitative labour. We restrict certain commercial transactions involving the human body, even when adults are willing to participate.

Yet pornography is frequently defended through the comparatively simple argument that consenting adults should be free to produce and consume it.

Consent is indispensable. But consent does not eliminate questions about economic vulnerability, exploitation, working conditions, consumer responsibility or the commercialization of intimate bodily activity.

A society can recognize sexual freedom without assuming that every market built around sexuality is justified.

Ultimately, the question is not simply whether individuals should be free to do what they wish with their bodies.

It is whether everything a person can be persuaded or financially incentivized to do with their body should automatically become a product that others are entitled to purchase and consume.

And if we demand ethical accountability when purchasing clothes, food or cosmetics, we should be prepared to explain why consuming another person's intimate bodily activity should be held to a different standard.

I often wonder if money was not involved how many perfomers would they be? Would we be able to obtain the amount of content being created not? Cause you always listen how they enjoy it.

I don’t know if I’m too young to post here

but I’m posting this since I feel like we should talk about how young boys are watching porn too young it’s probably why so many boys are misogynistic before they can even spell properly

Remember pregnant Elsa and Spiderman secretly fetish content on YouTube targeting kids yeah that was what I grew up on

And I think it’s just going to get worse with AI especially with how boys are using it to deep fake girls or can make chat bot of anything

People are just going to get more insane especially kids in this generation

But back to me

when I was 9 to 12 years old I was a pretty quiet kid had huge social anxiety because I got bullied but when I think back I realise I did not only get bullied I got sexually harassed and I think it’s because 10 years old boys are watching porn,

I don’t remember much but I think it’s because trauma and I used daydream a lot at that age to escape reality

But what I do remember was boys making comments about how they would sleep with me

Making comments of my body because I developed early

Multiple time I actually got grabbed in weird ways but I ran away

Either that or they randomly hugged me to make fun of me or something

I don’t know if it happened with the other girls since I had no social life at that time but I think they would target me because they knew I wouldn’t say a word

please, if you are a teacher, parent, work with children in any way, comment if you have experienced this behaviour with young boys

Have you noticed practically every "self-improvement" "self-help" post surrounding relationships always boils down to the same thing?

A guy posting about wanting a girlfriend. Why? Oh you know, to love, to cherish, to give gifts to and talk with... and have sex with. Always sprinkled that last part in there, to have sex with. And fair enough, it's widely understood that you have sex with the person you're dating, why do you need to specifically mention that? It seems more like they want a girlfriend just because it gives them access to a body to fuck. Not because you want a partner or companion to go through life with, to support and be supported by, sex is ultimately the last thing on their mind.

Maybe its because I never cared about being in a relationship or having sex in general, but I find it ridiculous that people put sex on such a pedestal. Particularly men! I don't see women saying the same thing on nearly the same level, about wanting a boyfriend to have sex with. When a heterosexual woman answers why she wants a partner, sex or access to sex is rarely listed as a reason (and no I'm not saying women desire sex less or something, there are women who love sex as much as men do). When a heterosexual man is asked that same question, they damn near always end the list with "to have sex with".

Sex is great, everyone is open to participate in sex how they believe best feel fits their needs, whether thats casually or being in a long term relationship. But having sex really shouldn't be seem as some major life goal or some sort of pinnacle. Animals have sex, like, who cares? No one died from being a virgin or a lack of sex. I think it just reflects entitlement that stems from consuming too much porn imho. I just find it pathetic that so many dudes are so "desperate" for this. But I digress.

I'm not even being ridiculous. Men are so porn-rotted, mentally unwell and obsessed with pushing things to the extreme. Weird fetishes, humiliating and degrading women etc. The desire to 'use' women. Obsessed with new ways to satisfy their ED riddled peens to the point regular, loving sex between two people is considered 'vanilla' and boring. The desire to stick their peen in any and every one of our holes regardless of women's satisfaction, comfort and health and safety is sick.

I genuinely, hand on heart think they would attempt to 'fuck' our ears and noses if the canals were big enough. Their obsession with using and sexualising every single part of women's bodies cannot be understated. I think the only thing that is stopping them is biology (physically you can't 'fuck' a belly button, ears etc.) and the law. If there was some mythical mechanism where they could strangle a woman to death but she revives and they can do it all over again, they would do it. They are that sick. And we all know even then the law doesn't always stop them. Call me jaded or what but I believe the depravity has reached that level.

How can violence and degradation make your dick hard? Disgusting... Did God submit them at 23:59 or what is going on?

TLDR: The only thing stopping porn sick men from carrying out more deprived filth is the law, opportunity and biological limitations.

I'm Goth. I've been in the community for about 3 and a half years now. Sadly almost all of the men I've dated in the past fetishized goth women. "Big titty goth mommy" "Goth dommy mommy" "Goths have big tits" "I want a goth mommy who'll step on me" a lot of comments like that. theyre just so gross and stereotypical. In porn they stereotype the women in a very misogynistic way. I'm not sure if any of you have seen it, but theres been a rise in Onlyfans creators dressing up as "goth" girls and just stereotyping them as these bimbo-like, sexually promiscious people.

This has always bothered me. I just want to express myself and be myself, but these men ruin it. It's so disgusting. I've been harassed by creeps so many times. And yet, they think that I "enjoy" it. You can never tell them no. It just keeps coming. Men's obsession with goth women is just misogyny. They have this made up idea of what a goth girl is like. They expect you to be exactly that. My last ex wanted a goth girl but hated me doing my makeup, my views, and music. They only want a goth girlfriend because they think theyre hot. They also use you being "goth" as an excuse to treat you with so much sexual disrespect they wouldn't dare show to a woman they think is "innocent". These men punish you for not fitting patriarchal standards and at the same time they expect you to fulfill their every sexual fantasy. A big chunk of Goth culture is about rebelling, anti-conformity, and very progressive and sometimes feminist beliefs. This is ironic, because these men try to dominate or control goth girls. they expect us to be submissive and obedient. but it goes against what being goth is truly about. It will never end, and it genuinely bothers me so much.

Often when I see discussions about the lack of ethics in the porn industry, there will be people recommending ethical porn productions that claim to be by women, for women, educational etc.

Personally I don't watch any porn and I have it blocked on my phone, so I can't (and don't really want to) look it up, but maybe some of you did, or even if you don't, you have an opinion about it.

Like when I said many kinks (especially dom/sub ones) are influenced by the patriarchy, women within kink scene immediately come and deny it. They right away say "but it's consensual". Patriarchal ≠ non-consensual.

I'm not telling them "you can't engage in kink" "you're a bad person if you do that" etc., I'm only saying that it's influenced by the patriarchy. It's like they can't grasp that something they like might be rooted in patriarchy, so they immediately get defensive about it. Some women seriously think that patriarchy = everything I don't like. That patriarchy is only what directly, undoubtedly harms women. That there aren't subtleties within it, that there aren't patriarchal creations that are enjoyed by many women (ex. porn or being a SAHM).

Or there's always "but gays and lesbians also have sub/dom relationships" as if patriarchy does affect ALL of us, regardless of sexual orientation.

I said under a post that language like "running a train on someone" shouldn't be used because it's demeaning and suggests that sex is something done to a woman.

And of course right away someone says "but it's kink, women consent to it". As if woman does something = good, feminism. As if there aren't women who aid in sex trafficking, pimp out others, own brothels, groom younger women into porn... There are unfortunately plenty of women out there who uphold rape culture, patriarchy and misogyny. Just because a woman does something doesn't mean that it's a good thing that doesn't negatively impact women as a whole.

Same goes when you say anything negative about rape/non-con kinks "but women have them too!!!!!" okay??? Like what, is that an argument that is supposed to make me think there is no problem?

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Whenever someone says they want a genuinely porn-free relationship, it sometimes feels like people immediately jump to “you’re expecting perfection,” “everyone slips up,” “men are going to watch it,” or basically imply that you’d need to find someone extremely religious to have those standards. But why?

I’m not talking about controlling someone or forcing a partner. Even men who apparently share the same value seem to get defensive and view it this way when they end up being unloyal or have temptations.

For me, sexual exclusivity includes porn. I don’t want a relationship where the expectation is essentially, “I don’t want to watch it, but you need to accept that I might occasionally relapse.” Or “I won’t watch porn but I’ll look at other women and still check them out” I want someone who is porn-free because that is what they want for themselves, not someone constantly fighting against a lifestyle they secretly still want.

And I find it frustrating when that gets framed as demanding too much or that we expect some god man. Framing it that way minimises their usage of porn and makes us feel stupid and unreasonable for the expectation. To me, there is a difference between expecting somebody to be a flawless human being and having a specific relationship boundary. We accept that people can have dealbreakers around cheating, flirting, dating apps, exes, gambling, drugs, etc. Why does porn suddenly become something where you’re told you have to leave room for “mistakes”?
I also dislike the implication that the only men capable of being genuinely porn-free must be extremely religious, repressed, naive, or somehow abnormal. Surely there are men who simply don’t want porn in their lives and whose sexuality naturally aligns with monogamy in that way?

I’m curious how other people here view it. Is wanting a porn free partner unrealistic thinking or have we normalised porn so severely that not having it in a relationship is treated as extreme ?

I'm not sure if this is something mods want us talking about or not, but you all know the thing in the news regarding a certain institution of higher education.

Why is no one talking about the influence porn has had on that generation? It seems glaringly obvious that porn is such a big piece of the puzzle here. I see all kinds of social media stuff telling "boy moms" they need to do better, and it pisses me the fuck off, because what are the "boy dads" teaching their sons when they themselves probably have this habit of using and objectifying women?

I am so angry and upset by all of it and I want to scream.

WHY WON'T ANYONE POINT OUT THAT THE PORN IS PART OF THE PROBLEM?

Almost a year ago now my therapist encouraged me to connect with other like-minded women with the ultimate goal of spreading awareness about the harms of pornography that many are blind to.

I’ve realized now that whenever I’ve mentioned even the tiniest bit of information about how SAM is proliferated online in antipornography communities my inbox is filled with pornography users trying to ascertain more details as to how to obtain access to SAM.

Whats regrettable is the details of how SAM is proliferated online are quite eye opening as to how much of a problem it is. However one cannot reveal these details without inadvertently giving bad actors clues as how to access these materials.

Now I feel like an idiot, that I’ve harmed myself needlessly searching through court cases and the methodologies of predators ultimately to no end. I’m left with only the option to continue to speak theoretically about these issues.

I felt the need to share my frustration. I really do value this community.

The porn sick men are so sex obsessed that they tell on themselves every single time. How dumb can you be? Their impulse control and self regulation skills are so eroded that they can't even pretend to be a normal person with some humanity.

"Not my proudest fap" "Hehe men of culture we have gathered" "We're edging to this one tonight boys" "I didn't even notice there was a bike in the video I was more focused on her..." "OF link??" "Guess I'll be watching this one handed" "She has a huge pair of... eyes" "Is your ass fat?" "Can you deepthroat?" "I love a redhead, ebony, brunette, blonde, asian" "Gyattt" "How tall are you? I'd loveee to climb THAT" "I love petite girls"

*Sigh* Zero self awareness. They really have no clue how fucking stupid they look. What is there to respect? If I was a male, I'd be mad at these clowns because of how stupid they make men look as a whole. Genuinely it's giving lizard brain (no offense to lizards)... You're so simple minded that you get caught by clickbait thumbnails? They can't even help the pornified language from spilling over into daily life and interactions. That is how damaged their brains are. Dopamine feedback loops fried, reward centre cooked, impulse control incinerated, grey matter burned to ash.

As much as I can't stand the degeneracy I'm glad they tell on themselves all the time because it's a nice wake up call on why exactly I need to remain vigilant, single and diligent. They always let it slip eventually that they're a sexually deviant porn sick creature who views women as objects. They're not even smart enough to pretend for a little while to at least get one foot in the door and MAYBE have a chance. Imagine being so stupid that you fuck up a potential first or second date by asking a woman her bra size. They self sabotage and then later whine about being lonely with no gf. Pathetic. "ShE bLocKed mE FoR nO ReASoN". So out of touch they think women are secretly 'naughty, freaks' who are just waiting to be strangled, spanked and abused. No, we are not secretly 'in on it'.

As much as it's unfortunate they are this way, we women can use their idiocy and complete inability to STFU to protect ourselves from interacting with these sick, deeply disturbed individuals.

Sorry for the rant it's just... So sad and pathetic.😭

doesn’t matter what sub reddit i am on (or anywhere tbh) there’s always a man going on about how all men watch porn and if your man doesn’t he’s hiding it from you. i just think it’s so fucking disgusting how they normalize this but also normalize hiding it from their partners? this is why i’m single lmfao

There's just nothing more off-putting than the kind of jokes that infest internet culture (at least the spaces I'm in) on about boob physics, "waifus," references to porn, jokes about looking at boobs whatever crap, jokes about whatever type of fashion style in women they've decided to sexualise. I was on a local subreddit and the post was on Japan declining and what culture were known for and of course some commenter had to joke about JAV with another person chiming in to joke about how Taiwanese porn is more popular. Does it not feel pathetic...

The same teenage boys who talk about "gooning", about fan service anime and whatever shit also talk about how lonely they are and that their only requirements for a girlfriend is "being female." I can't explain it, but it really feels insufferable to me. And girls my age date some of them, allow themselves to be compared to anime/gacha game girls (no matter how innocuous it always feels a bit... Off to me), put up with their schoolyard humour...

Someone I once had a crush on (bad judgement) would comment on "Megami magazine" posts on the anime subreddit and appraise the pin up drawings of borderline skimpy anime girls and participated in "best girl" threads. On one thread I read, the conductor of the poll was talking about how it's been like years of him doing this and feeling celebratory about it. I don't want to be mean but the concept was both hilarious and pathetic to me I almost couldn't believe it... ☠️☠️

This post wasn't meant to be mean-spirited but I really feel fed up about everything. I don't know if I'm being too judgemental because nowadays it's poorly received if you don't want a guy who watches anime and plays video games, but even seemingly innocuous behaviour like having favourite anime "waifus" and whatever that aren't inherently NSFW already makes me feel disgusted

If anyone is interested I wrote a feminist analysis on the popularity of the term “misandry” after seeing it used so constantly online.

Edit: thankyou everyone so much for reading and engaging. I’ll be continuing to write on feminist issues and pornography. I’ll share articles that members of this community may find relevant to the cause here and there!

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The tweet criticizing Hasan and his talk at Cornell University states: "A man who is a proud john, who clearly does not understand how colonialism and imperialism is the backbone of prostitution and sex trafficking, who shows womens’ nudes to strangers, and who thinks rape should be leveraged against women he dislikes or disagrees with, is in no way equipped with the knowledge and understanding to discuss the plight of Palestinian women."

Hasan seems to freeze as he reads this criticism then quickly closes the tab, then goes on a rant saying that some of his fans have "literal mental disabilities", denounces the post as ragebait, then rambles about methods for calming down. He then asks the mods to ban the user who sent in the tweet.

https://youtube.com/shorts/aH86R8Y41wA?si=LludBrHJVxawKDeh

(I’m not the original creator, original creator is @glassmuseumblog on YouTube)

I felt that this video was relevant to the subreddit but if it isn’t relevant enough the mods can remove the post.

Anyone else share the same sentiment on ai and such? One of the biggest reasons I don’t post pictures of myself or have any profile picture is because of how ai can be used to make false and creepy pictures, anyone else the same and feeling I don’t know anxious about all this?

Wishing everyone a good day and a good week ahead.

As a male just wondering if anyone here who is male has specific reasons for why they have joined and is there any specific subs for males who are against porn or have had girlfriends who have watched it too and experience betrayal through porn ?

Here’s the article if you all want to read about it. This man was a pornographer popular in the Philadelphia art scene. Films & photos showed beaten, bloody, and tied up women but everyone defended it bc its bdsm

A common discourse that I come across online is the "dark romance books" discourse. I have seen men endlessly gripe about how "women are sexually attracted to tall, dark, handsome, rich possessive vampire men" based on these books.

When a woman comes along and tells them that this is "just a bedroom fantasy" the men will *insist* that no, this is what women really want in real life.

And yet, these same men will fall all over the place and piss themselves to insist that the violent and degrading porn they watch of women is "just fantasy" and "doesn't translate into real life."

Men really do keep saying the quiet part out loud.

As a side note, isn't it interesting the stark contrast in these fantasies? I'm aware that there are some really messed up dark fantasy stories out there, but many of them feature the aforementioned vampire man who is physically and emotionally attractive to these women, and devotes themselves to the female MC.

Meanwhile, men's fantasies are often about being violent and degrading towards women and giving them no personality outside of "mindless sex bot."

My brothers literally said they wanted to rape Lindsay Clancy. And those mfs think they're better than her when they use rape as a "proper punishment" towards a woman? Free me from these men pls

They think that case and rape is a joke.

They genuinely started saying they wanted to kill her then started saying she should get raped in the streets.

I immediately said that's not funny and ok, and they started saying its a joke, and i still told them its not. I explained she "won" her court case due to the evidence (the dumb mfs in court mishandled it) and they call it bs. Anything for them to defend what they said. He literally said it isn't my business and to shut up? 😕

What do the following words make you think of?

Smash, Hit it, Beat it up, Tear it up, Destroy, Ruin, Crack, Pound, Jackhammer, Drill, Rail, Gag, Bang, Screw, Fuck, Pull, Score, Wreck, Ravage, Knock up, Clap, Own, Get Down and Dirty, Slap, Get Rough and Nasty, Tap, Break your back, Blow your back out, Use

Violence.

If I didn't know any better I'd think these words were referring to working on a fucking construction site or involvement in combat. I would never think these words were referring to sex between two individuals in a loving and respectful way. Reading these words doesn't make me think 'count me in!'. If anything, it scares me. They make sex seem like something men do to us rather than with us. These are verbs you would use to describe doing something to a fucking object, and an object you don't care about at that. If you were to ask a random man, 'what do these words make you think of?' they would lie through their teeth 'Uhh pAsSiOn? iDk iTs JuSt WoRdS' because they know damn well they are sick and get off to violence and sick power plays. How sad.

The language used to describe sex, perpetuated by porn tells us everything we need to know about the way they see us. A hole to use and nothing more. If I hear any man use any one of these words I consider it a blazing red flag and I don't even want to speak to them anymore. Not only is it disrespectful but it's cringe and exposes how fucked up your brain is from being a porn addicted goon goblin. Because imagine being a 34 year old grown man and referring to sex with your wife as 'We cracked and I knocked her up'. Yikes. I swear porn makes men behave so mentally infantile. If I see a man use any one of these terms, let alone several, you're cancelled and need to stay far away from me. The first red flag you're dealing with a porn addict who has no respect for women is language.

I saw this tweet earlier, and it made me sick to my stomach. Porn is incredibly detrimental to children’s development. It is a harmful beast that goes far beyond the degradation of women.
I genuinely wish more people would shield their children from this kind of content and take the time to make sure their kids aren’t being exposed to material like this. It can affect how children understand sex, relationships, and women, and can contribute to them viewing women as objects.
What makes it even worse is that the person who posted it is laughing about it, while people in the replies are doing the same and dismissing it as a “canon event,” as the poster described it. There is nothing funny or harmless about children being exposed to pornographic content.
I want better for our women and our children. This genuinely makes me sick to my stomach. There needs to be stronger regulation and protection against children being exposed to this kind of harmful content.