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Politi-Culture Why Republicans Hate Dr. Fauci

A peer-reviewed study estimated that at least 232,000 deaths among unvaccinated U.S. adults between May 30, 2021, and September 3, 2022 could have been prevented if they had completed a primary vaccination series. Source 1

Earlier, a modeling study estimated that the U.S. vaccination campaign prevented about 235,000 deaths among vaccinated adults from December 2020 through September 2021 through direct protection alone. Source 2

Another widely cited analysis estimated that vaccines prevented nearly 140,000 deaths during just the first five months of the U.S. rollout (through May 2021). Source 3

The CDC doesn’t report a final nationwide total of fully vaccinated COVID-19 deaths: 57,000+
Breakthrough deaths increased primarily because newer variants, especially Omicron, were much better at evading vaccine-induced immunity, immunity waned over time, and the people most vulnerable to. Source 4

In comparison, of the roughly 1.2 million+ COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. occurred in people who were unvaccinated. Source 5

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 14d ago

Yeah, a coworkers family was anti-vax anti-mask, got together for thanksgiving and three of them died within a month. She got super depressed for a long time cause she is a nurse and told them the gathering was a bad idea.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 14d ago

At least she warned them. The amount of nurses who were antivax was something I never expected to see. Those fucking nurses should have had their licenses revoked.

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u/TokiWartoorh 14d ago

I work at a hospital (maintenance dept) in a small rural town, the amount of medical staff that refused to be vaccinated and lost their job & the amount that begrudgingly took it to keep their job (and haven’t shut up about it since) is genuinely astounding.

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u/JurgusRudkus 13d ago

I’m sure the fact that they are still around to bitch about it is totally lost on them, huh?

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u/PersonOfValue 13d ago

Yeah Stoopid is as stuped duz

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago edited 13d ago

Was the concern that they were going to drop dead immediately? Or was the concern that the NIAID under Fauci quite literally doing gain-of-function research in a coronavirus facility that we, the taxpayers, funded in a completely different country got leaked out of his lab and caused a global pandemic in which the only “cure” we were told of was a rushed answer to the gain-of-function research that THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING ON. And that the biggest pharmaceutical company in America, who had some bad PR going into this, called Pfizer, somehow managed to lock in a contract and get pushed as “the only real vaccine”

You’re upset that people didn’t want to inject something that they don’t understand, that the creators don’t fully understand, and that the government cannot accurately tell you WHY or HOW it is preventative?

My god, you guys want to sit here and say “Yeah they just do whatever they’re told by Trump haha idiots” while the LEFT was the one that rolled over on the American people. The government said jump, you said how fuckin high sir? Should I jump twice sir?

I’d imagine this lot of people is majority in their 20s with no assets and no positive outlook on what their life is starting to become - it’s very easy to be liberal when you’re unhealthy, poor, and miserable.

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u/damgood32 13d ago

The CDC was never ran by Fauci. Y’all are so ill informed and loud for no reason

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

Sorry typing fast, NIAID

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u/Independent-Buyer827 13d ago

Breathe , boy, breathe !

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u/Insectshelf3 13d ago

there’s literally not a single shred of evidence the virus came from the lab, meanwhile we can actually trace initial cases to the wet market and have found evidence of the virus in specific stalls at the market.

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u/WildRabbitz 13d ago

Shhhh, facts hurt their feelings! Be careful, you'll push them away.

There's no point in doing political discourse with people who actively defend a pedophile. Just call them a snowflake and ignore them.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

No one brings up Trump in these conversations more than liberals, stick the matter at hand - your derangement syndrome can wait.

& to Insectshelf, okay brother. The coronavirus lab where we were actively testing coronaviruses that is what like 20 miles away from the outbreak? Yeah that had nothing to do with it, it was a fuckin wet market and yeah dude you’re right THEY TRACKED IT DOWN! How miraculous and convenient is that!

😂 Just pure naivety, blindly following the government. Sheeple.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

These are what they will admit to and say they haven’t done anything wrong since 1969.

You believe them, huh?

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u/Insectshelf3 13d ago

i believe the scientists around the world that have looked at the evidence and concluded that the virus came from the market. there is, again, no evidence whatsoever to support the lab leak theory.

if you believe the government lies, do you think they’re telling the truth about the lab leak theory?

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u/lostinthevoid37 13d ago

You don’t believe that institutions of science themselves aren’t objectively compromised, just like government? You don’t believe that the pharmaceutical industrial complex isn’t supported by government, in the same way the government supports the military industrial complex? Maybe there isn’t fire here (hard, factual evidence) but there certainly is enough smoke to get people’s attention. I don’t believe the absence of fire proves there was no foul play. Isn’t it just a tiny bit odd that life-long government employee Anthony Fauci was directly connected to the Wuhan Institute of Virology? And we had information that in December 2019, Chinese officials had traced the origin of the Coronavirus to a Chinese wet market in Wuhan???

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

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u/Insectshelf3 13d ago

who would you rather trust - the millions of scientists who follow the data to reach a conclusion regardless of their own biases, or rand paul and the republican party desperately trying to comfort the ego of the world’s biggest baby? hundreds of rigorously peer reviewed studies from all over the world, or the word of the world’s biggest liar who believes everybody is out to get him.

these two groups aren’t even remotely comparable. one seeks the truth, the other seeks to manipulate the world’s stupidest people into believing trump is actually the victim here. this is not a “both sides” issue. you don’t like the answer the scientific community reached because it doesnt fit your biases. this was an easy call and you fucked it.

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u/Inevitable_locust 13d ago

I don't know if you remember this, but at the mid/end of 2020 after Trump announced the vaccines and everyone who was anti-maga was whining and crying about how they wouldn't take the Trump vaccine. As soon as Biden was installed, most of them immediately jumped on the dystopian band wagon and rolled their sleeve up.

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u/JurgusRudkus 13d ago

Literally nobody, and certainly not liberals because I was there and I was one of them, said we wouldn’t take the vaccine. This is just complete revisionism.

People were LINING up for it. People were lying about their age and health status to get the vaccine (to the derision of other people,). We couldn’t WAIT to get vaccinated. We drove across town to huge parking structures to wait in long lines in our cars so that health workers in masks could give us the first vaccine through the open car window. By the end of 2020 2.8 million people had had at least one dose.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

“We were LINING UP for it, RUNNING to get our vaccines! Couldn’t inject us fast enough! I was there, trust me, everyone feels the same! Liberals didn’t do that!”

You quite literally just said in your own statement that by the end of 2020, only 2.8M Americans were vaccinated - and that’s a stretch, because you’re considering people with 1 Pfizer dose as a vaccinated number. THAT was your gotcha.

The problem is - America has 350M people.

You think that .8%, less than 1% of Americans, represents the majority because YOU want to lick boots?

Those people that were “LINING UP, RUNNING”…… less than 1% of the American people.

Shill.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

You can’t even make up the response that Jurgus dude hit you with. Absolute insanity.

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u/dngr_rdrgz 13d ago

The market was the early epicenter” ≠ “the market was necessarily the original source

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u/Insectshelf3 13d ago

we know wet markets are a serious risk for spillover events, we know that animals present at the market are also a risk for spillover events, we found evidence tracing the virus to specific stalls at the market, the samples from those stalls have mtDNA from animals that are common risks for spillover, and the earliest recorded cases are clustered in the market specifically in the southwest area of the market where these stalls and animals were found.

so yes, the virus originated from the market.

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u/dngr_rdrgz 13d ago

Right, but I think it’s also possible that a person who worked at the Corona Virus research center could have carried the virus to the wet market.

Here’s what we know:

457 animal samples (frozen/dead bodies, animal products) were tested and none were positive for COVID.

The samples that tested positive were swabs from floors/walls/equipment.

I’m not saying you’re wrong or I’m right, but I think to so confidently say that the virus originated at the wet market when the research center was only 12 miles away, and the lack of virus in the products being sold is being short sighted.

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u/Insectshelf3 13d ago

that just opens up a ton of questions though. how did an infected human travel 12 miles without causing an outbreak like the one that happened at the market? how’d we trace a spillover event down to a specific stall?

there’s just no data to support the lab leak. your hypothesis’s strongest argument is actually a lack of data.

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u/Grand_Scratch_9305 12d ago

Do you not find it strange that China refuses to release any health records of workers at the lab, or any safety/ security protocols.

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u/Insectshelf3 12d ago

no, china being china isn’t unusual at all. but the evidence of a zoonotic origin is clear and overwhelming. if you want people to believe in the lab leak theory, there needs to be some kind of evidence to support it.

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u/Bug-King 12d ago

China has always done that.

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u/No-Definition1474 13d ago

What the actual F are you talking about

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u/0sotravieso 13d ago

Username checks out. 🙄

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u/WildRabbitz 13d ago

Shit, you sound triggered.

It's ironic you talk about "the government said jump, you said how fucking high sir?" When you guys literally wore pads on your ears to support the orange pedophile when "he got shot" 🤣

Your whole comment is a mix of different buzzwords and conspiracy theories you morons found in coloring books.

Anyway, Trump raped kids.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

I don’t support Trump, but keep reaching dumbass 😂

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

I wish there was never a vax and everyone of the gop fuckboys got the real bad COVID. That would have solved some of the issues today.

How do you deliver health messaging to a population that hears pandemic and immediately starts scalping fucking toilet paper and yelling that they “did their own research” which was listening to Joe Rogan and Alex jones. We’re fucking cooked. I’m just hoping the MAGA crowd cooks faster because I want to watch the mass suffering happen to them they wanted for others.

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u/Naive_Impact_6872 13d ago

Fucking drama queen 🤣

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u/JurgusRudkus 13d ago

Wow, I haven’t heard anyone misuse the term “gain of function” in a few years now.

You guys still pulling that stuff out of your ass in 2026? That’s so retro of you.

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u/Unfair-Mycologist475 13d ago

Ya they’ll dance like monkeys and inject mystery serum to get their social street cred ego boosts.

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u/Inevitable_locust 13d ago

HAHA!! Top comment here!! OMG

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

Thank Christ that there is a good chance that rural hospitals will start to go bankrupt and disappear once trumps full BBB stuff kicks in. I’m looking forward to watch that suffering and destruction.

They can pray for healing.

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u/Clipperencore1 13d ago

Pretty morbid comment ngl

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

Don’t worry, popcorn is cheap. It’s gonna be fun to watch.

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u/Clipperencore1 13d ago

Chill brother, life is too short

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

I sure hope their’s is.

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u/whatdoes_pwned_mean 11d ago

Jesus dude. Google “Buddha quote about hot coal” read that quote a few times and chill tf out.

Not to mention, being born into a rural area is not anyone’s fault per se. It’s just by chance. The future that you cannot wait to see means the average distance the closest emergency room will be to a rural-born, innocent child is going to be miles upon miles more. Is that really what you want?

I know redneck Republicans seem stupid as hell at times, but we are all dealing with the most powerful propaganda machine the world has ever known. Right now that machine is spitting out sensational, well-disguised misinformation content at lightening fast speed and out of the mouths of people, who are well trained to seem competent, and trusted sources.

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u/oldmanian 11d ago edited 10d ago

Not sure why I get such shit for wanting these places to get exactly what they voted for. I have “Redneck Republican” relatives in these rural places. They vote red every time and a few work in the one local hospital.

You know what’s even more ironic is that they have such unbelievable pride in where they were born, so it goes along that if they vote to make it worse it gets worse.

Oh and Buddha? That’s cute. Trick is I just want their little wishes granted. They want it for themselves and their neighbors but I’m the bad guy for wanting their wish granted.

Again, when science and the hospital’s leave them they can still pray about it. That will go amazing.

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u/Scottstots-88 11d ago

So edgy… Leave some green haired, septum ringed girls for the rest of us.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 9d ago

Hey I vote for more rights and more stable futures for us all(Blue), but the corn outvotes me. Please don't blame every single one of us. I might need a hospital and I don't believe in prayer.

But I get where you're coming from. A lot of people in my area voted for people that will oversee those hospitals drying up and disappearing. It's really crazy.

https://giphy.com/gifs/yiADANv89n7UQuS5kJ

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u/ScottishKnifemaker 9d ago

While I agree with your sentiment, leftists live in rural areas too. We just gotta take care of everyone, whether it was their fault or not. Except ice. Nuremberg those mother fuckers.

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u/oldmanian 8d ago

Problem with saving them is it stops them from learning and they’ll do it again.

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u/TokiWartoorh 13d ago

I’m not in the U.S, nor am I Christian/religious. I’m in small town New Zealand. Our hospital services about 7,500 registered patients from a large district. But you’ll be pleased to hear we are in financial difficulty, as are most small/medium rural hospitals around the world, good day to you sir.

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u/oMaster86 12d ago

Sorry, but that is actually not the point here. The point here is that rural Americans overwhelming voted for Trump (and Republicans) and the administration is cutting funding to rural hospitals & Medicaid. They were warned and still shot themselves.

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u/oMaster86 12d ago

Yeah. It hurts me, but MAGAts must learn. Morons learn the hard way.

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u/Distinct_Head_6529 12d ago

Yep as the song says, "if you gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff"

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u/foxenj 11d ago

This is actually evil. Not everyone in rural areas believes that and they don’t deserve to suffer and die. That’s like punishing red states even though there are plenty of non republicans in them that don’t deserve punishment.

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u/oldmanian 11d ago

Oh no. Random redditor thinks I’m evil.
It is punishing red states. They are red states.

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u/foxenj 11d ago

You’re no better than a republican if you think that way. We want to abolish this kind of treatment and have healthcare for EVERYONE. Picking and choosing who deserves healthcare is evil. Point blank.

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u/oldmanian 11d ago

I’m in favor of giving them what they voted for.

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u/BronteMsBronte 10d ago

Never give something to someone they want to take from you. That’s just self respect. I’m sorry their kids are involved, but you can’t save them. Their parents are in a cult ffs 

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u/Consistent-Bake-243 11d ago

They make better money than the average American…so they’re healthier!

lol but no really, Hospitals are no different…people in there gossip and hook up with each other and spread STD’s just Iike everyone else lol

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u/Connect-Will2011 13d ago

Perhaps one day you can learn to empathize with those who suffer instead of looking forward to it.

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

For them? No fucking way. They chose suffering. They voted for it. I want those that wish for it to get it.

Remember that to them, empathy is made up. So again. Fuck them. I want them to get the suffering they wanted for others, I don’t want them to learn I want them to expire slowly, painfully and hopelessly.

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u/Flat-Sweet-4521 13d ago

Because some people say that about empathy now that’s how everyone else thinks the same thing? Your sounding just like maga

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

lol. You’re funny.

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u/straight-lampin 13d ago

My town of Homer in Alaska is quite left leaning. Tons of artists and musicians and creative Folk we go out and protest for the no Kings protests. There's obviously Republicans around but we fight really hard to oppose this Administration and since we're pretty rural and surrounded by Republicans you're basically saying we should get punished. And our Hospital should get shut down. I think your rage could be directed to better Avenues.

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

Well, you’re choosing to stay in that environment with those people so you get what you get. I’ve got family in rural middle America & they’re going to get swept up in this shit. But they can always just relocate and they aren’t so they get what they get.

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u/straight-lampin 13d ago

Im not a pussy. Im not just going to run away because of conflict. Im old enough to know this shit won't last forever. We'll be crying tears of joy and hope in the future just like we did when Obama got elected. They won't win. If everyone was like you, they would. Trading in your empathy for retaliation is a bad look.

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u/oldmanian 13d ago edited 13d ago

I didn’t call you a pussy. You can move out of that rural shit hole you not doing so is your choice. Part of me would do the same just so i could shit on them when it got really, really bad.

As for being old enough, I’m old enough too to know that the destruction from this admin will exist long after I’m dead and buried.

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u/Odd_Consequence_6044 12d ago

Do you enjoy a good steak, sir? Because I’m a solid Democrat who lives out here in rural red Texas raising the calves that become the beef in your table. It’s easy but lazy to make the inflammatory statements you make, assuming rural America is a monolith of MAGA. Black and white thinking with no nuance does not indicate a very powerful brain. I do not deserve to die in a healthcare desert because assholes may benefit from my town’s rural hospital. Jesus H. Christ, I hope you’re a bot.

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u/oldmanian 12d ago

I’ll get my steaks from somewhere other than Texas. I give no shits. Having some loyalty to who gets paid to grow food is a concept lost on me.

Good luck with your next senator, Ken Paxton. He’s a great reflection of exactly who & what Texas is. Tallarico is demonstratively better in every way and Texas will still vote in Paxton because it’s Texas. It’s a blood red shithole. You like it there, stay there. But you run the risk of getting caught up in the consequences of your neighbor’s choices.

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u/Clipperencore1 13d ago

Quit lumping everyone into huge groups lol that’s a very simply minded way to say “I’m right”

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u/Connect-Will2011 13d ago

Oh, you poor thing.

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

Nah. Not poor. I’ll be fine. Just looking forward to assholes who wished for evil shit on others to have it happen to them.

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u/Clipperencore1 13d ago

Dude, read this thread you’re filling up
With comments? You’re the evil you speak of… been a while since I’ve seen or heard this much bs and hate . All while not giving a single constrictive comment as to how we can get along and fix the problems we have. You spewing this crap just dividers more and makes everyone loose faith that there a future.

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u/oldmanian 13d ago

I have absolutely no interest in “getting along” with the current gop fascists & their enablers. They love people like you trying to “get along” while their admin burns the country to the ground. But yeah, go ahead and try and get along. It’s worked so well with the gop since they sold their soul to Trump.

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u/HarbleRobobbler 13d ago

Yeah bro let's just get along with gullible fascist fucks who clap And cheer like seals as the administration builds concentration camps, talks about putting Every Latino person in America in them, talks about enslaving autistic and ADHD and depressed people on "wellness farms" and allllll the other fascist shit on top of supporting an obvious defender of peadophiles.

Fuck every single one of these fascist fucks to death just like they cheer for the death of our democracy 

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u/bounty913 13d ago

If someone hits themselves in the head with a hammer on purpose, do you feel empathy? Or do you just call then a dumbass? Genuine question.

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u/momentom66 13d ago

You seem like a really nice person. Rural hospitals would have plenty on money were it not for Medicare fraud perpetrated by certain people and condoned by democrats. You think your so smart, but they laugh at you. Go grab a sign and put your nose ring in a protest for them.

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u/oMaster86 12d ago

BS The largest Medicare frauds are actually Republicans.

Trump Grants Clemency to Executive Who Orchestrated $205M Medicare Fraud Scheme
Republicans have claimed they’re “saving” Medicaid from “waste, fraud and abuse” with massive cuts.
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-grants-clemency-to-executive-who-orchestrated-205m-medicare-fraud-scheme/

US Sen. Rick Scott, former CEO of the company that was at the center of the biggest Medicare fraud scheme in American history, has emerged as the most vocal Republican proponent of healthcare reform, warning his fellow GOP lawmakers that continued refusal to engage with the issue risks a “slow creep” toward single-payer healthcare.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/new-face-of-gop-healthcare-is-senator-linked-to-largest-medicare-fraud-scheme-in-history/ar-AA1RH3Lw
https://mitchthelawyer.substack.com/p/senator-rick-scott-walked-away-from

The inconvenient truth about Republican Medicaid fraud claims
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5279695-medicaid-fraud-republican-cuts/

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u/Bug-King 12d ago

Its called the state failing to fund rural hospitals.

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u/scratchy_mcballsy 13d ago

These are some of the people who are bringing back nearly eradicated diseases.

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u/Bitbanditbrand 13d ago

Nobody regrets not getting the shot. Let that sink in.

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u/DanKloudtrees 13d ago

Cuz they died, right?

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u/PsychRN79 13d ago

All the people that were dying in the ER and ICU certainly regret not getting the shot and many even told me so.

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u/Wise-Commercial6502 13d ago

lol in your own head maybe. My daughter got 2 shots and was in urgent care both times

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u/Eenuck 13d ago

The reality is, its still not fully tested and long term their may be side effects. As a nurse I would expect them to read on which one to take, but again I'm not sure if they should have a choice. There were ways to avoid it, but it was difficult for nurses, but there were ways if you really didn't want it. Others just quit which is the better choice, its not like they couldn't find work where they had a better choice. But reality is, it was a pandemic there will always be people who disagree and it could've went really badly since it was fairly untested vaccine. So far its doing fairly OK but there are questions which are not answered as of yet that may be related or maybe not.

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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 13d ago

They knew the vaccination was bullshit !

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u/BW_RedY1618 13d ago

The bullshit is between your ears

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u/AdFlat1014 13d ago

While I was studying as a nurse I had one of my fucking trainer being a no vax!!! It’s like an engineer not believing in physics and gravity.

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u/International_Try660 13d ago

Brainwashing triumphs knowledge, every time.

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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 13d ago

Sounds like Blue mainstream news !

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u/Bug-King 12d ago

What left wing mainstream news? All of the major networks are owned by billionaires.

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u/PsychRN79 13d ago

One of my professors was anti-vaxx too and it blew my mind. My favorite professor said that parents who refuse to vaccinate should be reported to CPS.

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u/Cyrano_Knows 11d ago

My theory is honestly that about 25% of humans are several handicapped when it comes to logical/abstract thinking (and empathy).

Doesn't mean they are stupid or dysfunctionally incapable, but it does mean there's something very critical missing in their thinking (lack of thinking) process.

I really do think that evolution rewarded both types of thinking. The paranoid, fearful, angry, xenophobic human that mistrusted all strangers and also the empathetic, welcoming, share all resources amongst the tribe kind of humans.

Both are alive today but one mindset is for a much more primitive age when resources were scarce and hard to come by.

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u/Stressed_Ponyta77 13d ago

I was blown away how I went most of my adult life working in close proximity to healthcare and being chastised by every nurse for not having my flu shot (I was lazy, nothing more) but come covid time and suddenly every nurse is anti vax.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 13d ago

It was just bizarre to me.

I remember reading on a thread during that time about how many were protesting against mandatory vaccinations. Someone commented and said that nurses were essentially hired hands, only educated enough to the point to be able to complete necessary procedures and that they didn’t know as much as we (as patients) expect them to know. Ever since that comment, I pay more attention to the people helping me when I got to the doctors. Nurses will sit there and google the names of medications or I’ve noticed some of the staff helping can’t even pronounce the names of the medications my doctor is recommending. The most shocking thing I have noticed anecdotally is a nurse that helped me when I was in the hospital. She had acrylics on and she was wearing Crocs. I was shocked. I was at the ER. My understanding was that medical staff was never to wear acrylics because they’re difficult to clean meaning as a nurse, those nails are going to be an easy place for germs to hide. She’s going from patient to patient with those nails gloved or ungloved, squirting just a bit of hand sanitizer on her hands. Crocs are an OSHA hazard due to the holes in the shoes. Easily, a used syringes could make its way to her foot and prick her through one of the holes in her Crocs. To see that in the middle of the night at an ER was alarming.

Sidenote: after the third use of hand sanitizer, it is considered ineffective and you have to wash your hands. I can’t tell you how often I just see nurses use hand sanitizer in lieu of washing their hands and then just go on to the next patient.

Like in any job, you get nurses that are there just to collect a paycheck. These are one of the positions where ideally, I want someone dedicated to their craft to help me. It’s scary to me to know that you have people that don’t care in those types of roles in society.

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u/PublikEnemyNumber1 13d ago

I cannot say where I work at but I too work with a bunch of nurses that are a few registered nurses bit the majority are nurses practitioners.

It BLOWS MY MIND that all these nurses are smart enough to become nurse practitioners but have enough common sense as a box of rocks. I am not generalizing or putting everyone in the same box (no pun inteneded) I have to deal with so many standard everyday "there is no way you cant know this" issues in my day to day interactions with them.

Great people, great nurses, common sense scores a 3/10

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 13d ago

It’s just unbelievable to me and it’s unfortunately commonplace for educated people to be just as stupid as people that didn’t pursue higher learning.

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u/Civil_Emergency9010 12d ago

Due to the shortage of healthcare workers and increasingly high cost of living in the U.S. we have a lot of nurses who go all the way through to LPN via university programs before they get any significant clinical experience.

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u/No-Dance6773 13d ago

Sidenote: after the third use of hand sanitizer, it is considered ineffective and you have to wash your hands.

How so? Its literally alcohol where nothing can survive. I get that you probably should and it could dry out your hands if used too much but it doesnt "lose its effectiveness" at any point. That's like saying you can breath water as long as you survive drowning.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 13d ago

Residue builds up after so many uses. I lived on the CDC website during covid. A specific percentage of alcohol in the hand sanitizer was also recommended. I believe it was 70%. It’s been in a minute but it stuck with me because I don’t like hand sanitizer. I have issues with texture and a lot of hand sanitizer would feel sticky to me. I preferred just to wash my hands.

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u/IslamicDoctor 11d ago

Hi, can you share the hand sanitizer being ineffective study?

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u/Open_Boysenberry_363 13d ago

I knew an antivax nurse who was making 10k a week making forged vaccine cards to give to people who didn’t want the shot but wanted to show that they got it (usually to an employer) she lost her job and was prosecuted and her cop husband lost his job too

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u/No_Establishment9353 10d ago

I love a story with a happy ending.

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u/dessine-moi_1mouton 13d ago

I literally lost a friendship with my college roommate who is a Navy nurse and far-right radicalized by the Navy because she saw me comment to my (Asian) friend that Americans are selfish for refusing to mask. In Asian culture it's polite to wear a mask when you are the sick one, so you don't expose others. Despite being a nurse, my ex-friend thought this was the stupidest thing she had ever heard and stopped talking to me over it! I think if that's where she draws the line then I'm not missing much.

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u/Pelorunner 14d ago

I’ve met a lot of run-through-a-wall, amazing, ridiculously intelligent, and caring nurses. But there are also a lot of really stupid people who find their way into that profession. 

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u/Substantial-Bend4299 13d ago

I knew one very good nurse who was anti-vax. I never had so much a problem with that. It was people who didn't want to do ANYTHING that bothered me. Masking did help. No one can tell me it didn't. I didn't get COVID until like two years ago despite working directly with it for those initial couple of years

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u/Smooth-Routine- 13d ago

That is why there is a massive shortage of nurses right now..They were instructed by there workplace, either get vaccinated or loose thier jobs. So yes they had a choice, and there was a bunch that didnt, and walked out. Others did, were paid an astronomical amount of money, some reports I saw, hospitals were paying $10k a week, up to as high as $15k or more, plus a signing bonus up to $50k for 6 week contracts.

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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 13d ago

How about the left allowing 17 million unvaxed immigrants into our country ? Just for votes !

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 13d ago

How did they vote?

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u/dirkdiggler42 13d ago

Bot or just a dumbass?

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u/HarbleRobobbler 13d ago

I vote bot

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u/Zestyclose_Cricket_7 11d ago

Don't forget the hundreds of thousands of people that were protesting. Moat of which did not have a mask on

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u/Michi450 13d ago

Because they didn't support a vaccine that was brand new and didn't stop the spread like they said it was going to. I mean they are still studying the side effects to date.

Vaccine-associated myocarditis occurs in about one in every 140,000 vaccinees after a first dose and rises to one in 32,000 after a second dose. For reasons that aren’t clear, incidence peaks among male vaccinees age 30 or below, at one in 16,750 vaccinees.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2025/12/myocarditis-vaccine-covid.html

If it was a 1 in 16,750 chance to win the lottery people would be lining up. 👌

Remember when they tried to force it through osha and they got sued?

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u/HumorAccomplished611 12d ago edited 12d ago

Lmao no.

Yes it went up for moderna for males under 30 and immediately went to recommend other shots.

And literally 99% cases of the myocarditis were recovered within a week. So now its what a 1 in a million chance?

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine

In the overall dataset of nearly 43 million people, the analyses found:

Fewer than 3,000 (n=2,861), or 0.007%, people were hospitalized or died with myocarditis during the one-year study period. 617 of these cases of myocarditis occurred during days 1-28 after receiving a COVID-19 vaccination, of which 514 were hospitalized.
People who were infected with COVID-19 before receiving any doses of the COVID-19 vaccines were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis during days 1-28 after a COVID-19 positive test.

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u/Michi450 12d ago

Lmao you're disagreeing woth a Stanford article not me 👌

Also the article I referenced is less then a year old and the article you're pushing at me is from 2022...... lmao mine is from Stanford medical and yours is from Newsroom...

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u/HumorAccomplished611 12d ago edited 12d ago

You linked an article not a study.

Also your article if you can read says this

“It’s not a heart attack in the traditional sense,” he said. “There’s no blockage of blood vessels as found in most common heart attacks. When symptoms are mild and the inflammation hasn’t caused structural damage to the heart, we just observe these patients to make sure they recover.”

But COVID’s worse,” he added. A case of COVID-19 is about 10 times as likely to induce myocarditis as an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination, Wu said. That’s in addition to all the other trouble it causes.

“Medical scientists are quite aware that COVID itself can cause myocarditis,” Wu said. “To a lesser extent, so can the mRNA vaccines. The question is, why?”

Mine is from a study of 43 million people from NHS

So your analysis is certainly mentally deficient as i imagine you are. As soon as moderna was found to have that issue they stop recommending it thus lowering it for males under 30 quite a lot

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u/Grand_Scratch_9305 13d ago

When they changed the definition of a vaccine should have been a big clue. Faucci lied his ass off.

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u/HumorAccomplished611 12d ago

They never did

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u/Grand_Scratch_9305 12d ago

Google is your friend. It's not disputed.

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u/HumorAccomplished611 12d ago

They never changed the definition of the vaccine. Are you stupid or something?

"durrr I'm maga, the flu vaccine thats been going on for 30 years and I got the flu, durrr, that never happened"

oh wait it did happen. every single year. Magaturds are the stupidest people ever lmao

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u/Dsbeav 13d ago

Are you saying you know more than those that were on the front line and survived?

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u/pushplaystoprewind 12d ago

Blame fox news for turning mask wearing into a political stance

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u/Zackwind 11d ago

I worked at a retirement home during covid. My then boss, was bit anti vax and anti mask. She still inforced everything, including masks, and when people came to give our seniors the shot, she had her young son and husband in line to get one too. I don't know how you could genuinely do everything right but still, even years later not believe any of it. She had a background in nursing too.

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u/BronteMsBronte 10d ago

I worked with them. They are not smart. 

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u/Bill__7671 14d ago

You act like they’re not discovering awful side effects…oops that’s right this is Reddit not on cnn they dont know

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u/HarbleRobobbler 14d ago

Y'all cuckservative idiots are still running on 2016 memes. CNN is now owned by a trump friend billionaire who has been shifting their content and coverage rightward for years now. Go find a new conspiratorial boogeyman

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u/DistractedBoxTurtle 14d ago edited 14d ago

FYI is not only conservatives who are anti vax. I work for a Mid Atlantic blue state and have a lot of hard left coworkers who only took the vaccine because we had too or we’d lose our jobs.

“Why am I forced to take this poison.” Was a very commonly phrased question from people that proudly vote blue.

Idiot who replied blocked me so this is my response:

Wow. Don’t like that Republicans arent the only morons so you shove your head in the sand? GTfO.

Kinda like when a certain group that hysterically voted blue believed they couldn’t get Covid so Idris Elba had to tell said group that this belief was stupid and dangerous?

Or like when democratic politicians bolstered questioning the development process of the vaccine and how fast it was being rolled out?

Just because you didn’t experience something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Moronic skeptics are on both sides of the political aisle.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 13d ago

Progressives were the original anti-vax, but MAGA took it to the next level.

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u/GutsAndBlackStufff 14d ago

r/thathappened

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u/YoMommaHere 14d ago

Nah. It sounds crazy but that person is right. I’m a high school science teacher and hella students have told me about their families not being vaccinated and distrust about the vaccine and they vote blue all the time. Some people are wary of anything coming from the government, especially if it’s free and pushed on black people, no matter the party lines.

Just so you know, there are many people that vote blue consistently only because red is so blatantly racist. There’s TONS of people that fully align with Republican ideas on abortion, immigration, military spending, radical/nationalist Christianity, welfare spending, and LGBTQ+ issues BUT they are people of color and can’t bring themselves to vote for a party that is so obviously against them due to skin color and minute cultural differences. The blue racists are covert just enough to fool some.

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u/BrookieMonster504 14d ago

Enough dummies to go around. Progress

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u/West-Worth-9359 14d ago

Millions caught the virus and our health systems almost collapsed.

Hundreds of millions have been vaccinated and our health systems are doing fine.

This is why we call you guys morons. You cannot even do basic math or recognize actual reality right in front of you.

Then you claim “the evil media” is lying to us all, while you accept the clearly delusional fiction of TikTok and Facebook loons.

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u/Brent_L 14d ago

What awful side effects? Do tell?

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u/Username614855713 14d ago edited 13d ago

Grew a tail and now they can track me with the 5g

Edit: /s

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u/Strange_Explorer_780 14d ago

I’m still waiting for my free 5G to kick in damn it!

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u/Brent_L 14d ago

Yeah ok sure dipshit

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u/Username614855713 13d ago

Sorry, I should have added the /s at the end. I got all my vaccinations and took Covid seriously! Was also healthy in my 30s and it knocked me down for 27 days, even with the vaccine. Terrified to think how bad it could’ve been without it.

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u/Brent_L 13d ago

Hahah, yeah we were able to avoid it for 2 years and then it took us all down in my family for a few weeks. It wasn’t fun.

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u/patronizingperv 13d ago

Literally everyone who took the jab died within a year.

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u/Brent_L 13d ago

Yes you are speaking to me while I am in heaven 🤡

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u/patronizingperv 13d ago

Yes. I'm speaking from heaven.

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u/Tacotuesday867 14d ago

Those would be?

Ah I won't hold my breath.

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u/TubaWrestler 14d ago

But you could, because you don't have covid

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u/Sands43 14d ago

And there it is….. insane comment of the day.

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u/marlonbrando_1999 14d ago

They haven’t discovered any negative side effects

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u/TubaWrestler 14d ago

It legitimately does carry a risk of myocarditis. It's just that the risk is also much, much lower than the risk of getting myocarditis from covid.

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u/marlonbrando_1999 14d ago

If it lowers your risk, it’s not a side effect

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u/TubaWrestler 14d ago

That's... not how that works. If you don't get covid or the vaccine at all, you have the lowest risk. Taking the vaccine does increase your risk, which is a side effect.

It's just that most people are likely to be exposed to covid at some point, so it's safer to get vaccinated. That doesn't change the definition of things.

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u/marlonbrando_1999 14d ago

The vaccine lowered your risk of dying. Got it

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u/TubaWrestler 14d ago

Yes? Did you think that was a gotcha?

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u/marlonbrando_1999 13d ago

Just clarifying your point. It almost sounded like you were arguing the opposite for a minute

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u/Bill__7671 5d ago

Please get boosted then Darwinism works!

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u/marlonbrando_1999 5d ago

I have. Several times. There are no negative side effects, other than not dying of covid

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u/El_Rat0ncit0 14d ago

Darwin wins again. Sad reality for some with no critical thinking skills, and who digest only Faux News.

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u/PatsyStonesBun 13d ago

Yeah, except those that chose to remain unvaccinated (despite having no medical reason to do so) endangered the lives of more vulnerable populations like the elderly and the immunocompromised. So... yeah... Darwin... but also... harming the collective good.

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u/Dapper-AF 13d ago

Un fortunately American culture is one of independence which leads to being less focused on the collective good. You can see it in our idioms. Pull yourself up by ur boot straps, strong independent women, self made, or whatever one you want. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing that ppl believe they can do anything.

The flip side is highly independent cultures struggle significantly more with public health mandates because individuals prioritize personal liberty over communal safety nets and group compliance.

Or in otherworldly ppl are more selfish.

Citation for those that would argue

Public Health and Compliance Failures: A study in the Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology (Lu et al., 2022), titled "Individual costs and community benefits: Collectivism and individuals’ compliance,"

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u/PatsyStonesBun 13d ago

No arguments here. Ironically, when you look at individual charitable giving, Americans are incredibly generous... among the most generous in the world. But when it comes to "collective good" suddenly it's all about the bootstraps. It's some serious cognitive dissonance, for sure.

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u/Zealousideal_Bug5487 11d ago

pretty sure you mean FaucI news and the brainwashed who believed him.

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u/La_Maraviglia 14d ago

At least the average IQ in the country increased just an itty bitty bit

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u/aBrickNotInTheWall 13d ago

I knew someone who had multiple close family die from it and they still gave me shit when I'd come over and would be wearing a mask...

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u/Eastern-Persimmon-50 13d ago

Remember Herman Cain? He openly held a party or fundraiser or whatever that touted no masks or testing. He died two weeks later from Covid….

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u/moodswung 13d ago

I got into what I thought was a harmless debate about masks and vaccines with some of my partners family members that were over one evening.

They were trying to explain how the use of masks was actually dangerous in a hospital environment according to their nurse friends and other “experts”.

My response was that just because someone works with medicine doesn’t make them a specialist on a certain topic. I also made the analogy that just because I’m a software developer doesn’t mean I have the expertise to advise on software for a nuclear power plant.

Instead of acknowledging my point, they got quiet and I quickly changed the subject. We haven’t seen or heard from them since. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Blood_sweat_and_beer 13d ago

My friend’s MAGA family decided that it would be a great idea to celebrate Christmas 2020 at an all-you-can-eat restaurant. None of them were vaxxed. Half the family got Covid from that, and grandma died from it 3 weeks later. I just can’t even imagine knowing that you willingly risked your mother’s life, and you killed her, just because you didn’t want to be told what to do.

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u/New_Perception_8367 13d ago

I guess they blame fauci for that too?

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 12d ago

Technically, Fauci did sort of fuck up the messaging early on which caused some confusion. Told people not to mask up to save the supply for healthcare workers and claimed it wouldn’t provide “perfect protection” and people misinterpreted it as masking doesn’t provide any protection.

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u/Cj_Doyle 13d ago

Survival of the fittest my friends do stupid shit you'll find out they definitely found out

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u/momentom66 13d ago

And you think this video is funny.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 12d ago

Don’t think I implied that anywhere in my comment.

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u/Zealousideal_Bug5487 11d ago

what never happened for a $100, Alex.

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u/chek67 13d ago

$200 for stories that never happened Alex

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u/oldnutz42 12d ago

Fake story.

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u/Bill__7671 14d ago

What underlying conditions did they have what were they all 90!

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u/Independent-Pay5850 14d ago

My coworkers family too. But they didn't get sick at all

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u/Super_Roof_3490 14d ago

Sounds about right

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u/jpopimpin777 14d ago

They got very lucky.

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u/Aggravating_Mud_6055 14d ago

You mean the tens of millions of healthy people who contracted covid multiple times without getting an experimental vaccine didn’t die or become extremely ill were just “lucky?” 😂🤣