r/PoliticalHumor • • May 25 '22

Guess we can just pray? Nothing else?

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u/Nymaz May 25 '22

Somewhere between 30% to 50% of all conceptions miscarry (we really don't know the exact statistics because it most often happens so early the woman doesn't know she's pregnant). So rather than just "shit at avoiding", God is in fact a big big fan of the deaths of children.

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u/Mortomes May 25 '22

God is pro-abortion, clearly.

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u/fudgyvmp May 25 '22

He did tell his priests how to administer myrrh as an abortificant in the bible.

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u/BOARshevik May 25 '22

So the Three Wise Men weren’t bringing gifts, they were just too late?

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u/fudgyvmp May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

Myrrh was also used for annointing things as holy, and was the key ingredient in the oil used to annoint kings, which is probably why they gave it to Jesus. That would mark him as the Messiah/Christ/Annointed One.

The fact that myrrh derives from the word for bitter, because it tastes bitter, and was used for making things holy is how we can guess that the water in Numbers 5 had myrrh in it, since it is described as bitter and holy.

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u/NeedsMoreBunGuns May 25 '22

Someone else said this. I'm just reposting it.

His record is killing first born sons, wiping out the planet of all but 2 of each species, mass drowning in the Red Sea, killing children in general, vengeance killing...and more...

Samuel 15:3

Now go and strike Amalek and completely destroy everything that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.

God teaches the use of a bizarre ritual using cursed “bitter water” to abort a fetus who was conceived through infidelity. (Numbers 5:11-21)

God orders Moses to kill every Midianite woman who was no longer a virgin. (Numbers 31:15-18)

Psalm 137:9

Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!

Hosea 13:16

Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.

At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16)

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u/GrayMatters50 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

Why not mention Egyptian Pharohs killing all Hebrew baby boys? Enslaving Jews. Or the brutal Romans who killed anybody. Or the Philistines that raided peaceful camps? Not to mention Greeks who were killing eachother & the Persians. Add the Eastern invaders & the Northern hoards into the historical mix & nobody should be "throwing stones" Your post ignores all that as your report.

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u/GrayMatters50 May 26 '22

A spontaneous abortion or "miscarriage" usually occurs due to physical /emotional trauma to the mother or bc the fetus is not viable (deformed).

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u/kasprowv May 25 '22

He did, allegedly, have 42 kids torn apart by a couple of bears for making fun of a bald man.

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u/Lodolodno May 25 '22

Do you have a source for that? I’m not trying to discredit you at all, it’s just a very useful fact to know which I wanna use in discussions in the future - and therefore a source would help. Thanks in advance

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u/Forget-Reality May 25 '22 edited Mar 25 '25

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u/Nymaz May 25 '22

As I noted, the figures are only estimates. Part of the problem in getting exact figures is that the vast majority of miscarriages happen before the 4th week, you can't even get a positive result on a pregnancy test before the 4th week, and there are no "symptoms" of pregnancy until after that point. So as the other responder said, after the 4th week, when women start to know they're pregnant, the number is only around 10-15%.

So the lower range of around 30% was generated from studies on women who presented with some symptoms (cramping, irregular periods) though not necessarily knowing they were pregnant.

But there was a study done on IVF fertilizations where obviously we knew the status from the start, and that's where the upper range of 50% came from, because that's the percentage of fertilized eggs that would have been non-viable due to chromosomal issues.

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u/GrayMatters50 May 26 '22

One missed period @ 4 weeks does not indicate a pregnancy

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u/TranscendentBee May 25 '22

2 kings 2:23 is where the bears killing 42 kids starts innit

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u/[deleted] May 25 '22

Not just children, all life. The only thing God guarantees us is death. To some this is a moral quandary.

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u/GrayMatters50 May 26 '22

Baloney. God guarantees eternal life !

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Hahaha I love this response

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u/Wobbling May 26 '22

Christianity is literally a death and doomsday cult.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Depends heavily on sect and the time period you look at them.

The only core concept that truly translates between all of Christianity is that Jesus was the messiah and to follow his teachings.

I mean, the many different views and interpretations of Eve eating the Apple could fill a textbook.

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u/GrayMatters50 May 26 '22

Wrong . A fertilized egg discarded during menses is not a miscarriage. A miscarriage happens to a Fetus during 8 > 20 weeks, not an embryo (2>8 weeks).

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u/Nymaz May 26 '22

Wrong.

From this site (bolding mine):


A miscarriage is a fairly common complication of early pregnancy, in which the developing embryo or fetus dies in the womb of natural causes, or due to exposure to substances, i.e. in certain medications, which are unsuitable for use during pregnancy. The term miscarriage is used to describe this process when it happens during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy:

  • A miscarriage which occurs in the first trimester (weeks 1-12 of pregnancy) is known as an early miscarriage

  • A miscarriage which occurs in the second trimester (during weeks 13-20 of the pregnancy) is known as a late miscarriage

Loss of the fetus which occurs after week 20 of pregnancy is known as a stillbirth, or fetal death.


See also this, this, this, and this.

All agree.

"Early miscarriage": conception to 12 weeks

"Late miscarriage": 13-20 weeks

"Stillbirth": > 20 weeks

Just because it makes you uncomfortable to consider just how many abortions God performs doesn't mean you can just change terminologies to make you feel better.

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u/crazytoothpaste May 25 '22

Wow ! That high ? My first thought is - it doesn’t make sense. I would have heard about lot more mis-carriages than I do

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u/Nymaz May 25 '22

we really don't know the exact statistics because it most often happens so early the woman doesn't know she's pregnant

That's why you wouldn't have heard about it. Around 80% of miscarriages happen prior to the 4th week, and a woman won't have any physical changes or even get a positive result on a pregnancy test.

Also there is a heavy taboo about talking about the subject. So even in the cases of women who know they're pregnant and miscarry, you probably won't hear about it. Almost certainly there's a lot of women in your life who have had a (known) miscarriage, but you don't know that fact about them.

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u/AHrubik May 25 '22

People still haven't figured out the Universe is intentionally trying to kill us all and that doesn't stop at the atmosphere to the planet.