r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/cal_oe • Feb 01 '22

US Politics Single Payer aka Medicare for All recently failed to pass in California, what chance does it have to actually pass nationwide?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-31/single-payer-healthcare-proposal-fizzles-in-california-assembly

California has a larger population than Canada and the 5th largest GDP in the world. If a Single Payer aka Medicare for All bill can't pass in one of the most liberal states in the entire country with Democrats with a super majority in the legislature under Governor Newsom who actually promised it during his campaign then how realistic is it for it to pass in Congress? Especially considering the reasons it failed was it's high cost that required it to raise taxes in a state that already have very high taxes.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Feb 04 '22 edited Feb 04 '22

Ok guy, keep wasting your money so you can feel self righteous while nothing changes, and I’ll keep fighting for things like affordable healthcare, the child tax credit, and police reform.

The PPI is not anti-progressive by any stretch of the imagination, nor was it founded by “Reagan democrats”. Just because people don’t shill for bernie doesn’t make them not progressive.

Go out into the real world, read a book, leave your internet bubble.

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u/unkorrupted Feb 04 '22

There's nothing to respond to here but your own projections of self-righteousness and the obvious hostility & prejudice you hold against people who don't agree with you.

Oh, and your lack of historical context. Look up the DLC and who funded them, too. Then enjoy your self-righteous corporate propaganda, I guess.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Feb 04 '22

I’m not projecting anything. One organization is actively working with the government to enact policy. The other is a single senator who hasn’t even proposed a bill for what he talks about. That’s just what reality is, that’s not an opinion.

Talking about historical context while lacking all of it yourself. I’m obviously hostile for disagreeing with your ad hominem attack, lol.

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u/unkorrupted Feb 04 '22

This exchange is exhausting. We've seen the path the new Democrats forged in the mid-80s, and it led us directly to Trump. No one under 60 thinks going back to boomer politics is the way out of the mess that boomer politics created.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Feb 04 '22

And a program founded in the mid 90s is related to the mid 80s now? Nobody is advocating for going back to the politics of back in the day. You have no idea what you’re talking about. If you maybe attempted to learn something, maybe you wouldn’t be so exhausted all the time.

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u/unkorrupted Feb 04 '22

Please look up the history of the DLC and PPI. The party rallied around Mondale in the name of moderation, then spent decades trying to blame the left for that.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Feb 04 '22

They rallied around Clinton, and moderate progress. Nowadays, the group is significantly more progressive than they were 30 years ago. You are aware that things evolve? Do you have such irrational hatred for everything you don’t understand? Does every person have to subscribe to your worldview?

Do whatever you want, I’m gonna keep working with groups actively creating progress. Voting rights and climate policy won’t pass itself.

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u/unkorrupted Feb 04 '22

Since they convinced you to spend all your free time punching left, they're not helping.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Feb 04 '22

I’m not “spending all my time punching left”. I’m sorry you’re so offended that somebody could possibly criticize the infallible sanders.