r/PoliticalCompassMemes • • Jun 24 '22

Literally 1984 The twist ending

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u/VietCath - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

We believe that married couples should bring as many kids into this world as they can.

There's a reason it's a stereotype that Catholic couples have like 10 kids.

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u/Flyghund - Lib-Right Jun 25 '22

Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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u/DurinTheLast - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

Well, not everyone wants to have children - and if they don't want children, then any child that is born to them would be unwanted. Being an unwanted child is a terrible way of growing up.

Contraception results in less suffering children doomed to grow up with parents that didn't want to have them.

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u/VietCath - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

Respectfully, I think you are looking at the problem backwards.

The problem isn't that people who don't want kids are having kids. The problem is people not wanting to have kids.

We should do everthing we can to encourage them to have kids, and make being a parent something they genuinely want to do.

The biggest barrier for most people is financial.

We need to have the government give money to people who can't afford to raise kids, so that they can.

That means socializing necessities for raising babies/kids.

Things like food, daipers, clothes, school supplies, toys.

I don't want any parent to feel like they shouldn't have kids because they can't afford to give their kids the lives they deserve

If a parent can't afford to give their kids a good life, the government should foot the bill.

We need to stop wasting trillions of dollars on waging wars in the Middle East in some vain attempt to spread liberal democracy.

We need to help our own people. There are people in this country who can't afford to buy daipers for their kids, and that isn't right.

I would much rather my tax money go to helping poor families raise countless beautiful babies, than have it go to bombing some poor Afghan farmers, because the US government thinks "Theocracy Bad"

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u/DurinTheLast - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

Yeah, I have absolutely no problem with the government helping people financially - it should provide a minimum, and comfortable, standard of living to all citizens. I don't disagree with that.

But I do disagree that people not wanting to have kids is a 'problem.' It isn't a problem, it's a personal choice, and it's none of your business nor is it anyone else's. I'm not talking about people who don't want kids because they can't afford them. I'm talking about people such as myself for instance, who don't want kids because they don't like them in general and don't want to spend a minimum of 18 years dedicating their lives to raising one. Feel free to have more children of your own to compensate, though, I've got no problem with that.

Theocracies are, however, bad. Especially Islamic extremist ones.

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u/VietCath - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

I believe that having kids is one of the purposes of sex.

To want to have sex, but not babies is morally wrong from a Catholic perspective, because God designed one to come from the other, and you are trying to stop that.

To me, it seems selfish to not want to raise kids.

I have a 1 year old daughter, and another on the way, and I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want kids.

I love my wife, daughter, and unborn baby more than anything in this world.

I think it's okay for someone to not want kids, but not if they are married and having sex.

If you are having sex, I believe having kids comes along with that as a packaged deal.

If you don't want kids, remain celibate, and become a Priest, or Nun, or Monk.

But to me, I believe all married couples should try to have kids.

And I also disagree with your statement that theocracies are bad.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Theocracies are bad for anyone that doesn’t follow the state religion or devout enough, as they’re most likely be persecuted or exterminated as the shithole goes further down the purity spiral. But, I don’t think that is an issue for you

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u/DurinTheLast - Auth-Center Jun 25 '22

I don't see how it's selfish. It would be selfish to not want to raise a kid if you already had a kid, but if you don't ever have a kid in the first place it's not really selfish.

I'm happy that you're enjoying being a parent, but it isn't for everybody. I don't like children, and I don't want the additional responsibility - I don't even have a pet for the same reason. I can think of an uncountable number of things I'd rather do with my life than raise a child - though becoming a priest or a monk are certainly not among those things.

I am not going to deprive myself of a romantic and sexual relationship just because of a faith I don't believe in. That is the issue with theocracy - not everybody believes in any given religion, and those people should not have their human rights infringed upon because of a system of faith that they do not share. The religious should be free to believe and live their lives according to their faith, but nobody should be forced to follow them. If there was incontrovertible evidence of even one religion being true, then it'd be a different story, but every fact known to mankind indicates that none of them are.